Unable to open secured files

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Hello
Recently my windows 2000 pro operating system crashed.
I had made a power user in my own name and using NTFS file system I had
given security to one folder. I had denied access for everyone to this
folder. I had kept my excel files in this folder in which all my bank
transactions were kept.
I was not able to repair the crashed operating system. Thereafter I
configured windows 2000 server on my PC and moved my secured data to
different partition. After this I again loaded the windows 2000 pro operating
system without formatting any of the drives.
Now I am not able to open my secured files.
Can anyone please help me with this.

Dhuri
 
As a local administrator you can take ownership.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello
| Recently my windows 2000 pro operating system crashed.
| I had made a power user in my own name and using NTFS file system I had
| given security to one folder. I had denied access for everyone to this
| folder. I had kept my excel files in this folder in which all my bank
| transactions were kept.
| I was not able to repair the crashed operating system. Thereafter I
| configured windows 2000 server on my PC and moved my secured data to
| different partition. After this I again loaded the windows 2000 pro
operating
| system without formatting any of the drives.
| Now I am not able to open my secured files.
| Can anyone please help me with this.
|
| Dhuri
|
 
Hello Dave,
I was unable to do it.
Or may be I was unable to follow proper steps.
Can you please explain the steps to be taken.
Dhuri
 
Explorer|"folder"|File|Properties|Security|Advanced|Owner and take ownership

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello Dave,
| I was unable to do it.
| Or may be I was unable to follow proper steps.
| Can you please explain the steps to be taken.
| Dhuri
 
Hello Dave,
Sorry that I couldn't reply immediately. For to weeks I wasn't able
to connect to microsoft support forums.
I tried your suggestion , but I couldn't get a solution.
I tried the following:-
This is how one can try the experiment.
1. I logged off ‘Administrator’ and changed to power user ‘self’ having log
in password.
2. I made a folder ‘SelfData’ and kept some Excel , Word and wordpad files.
3. I right clicked the folder and went to properties.
4. Under ‘security’ tab I unchecked the check box ‘Allow inheritable
permissions from parent to propagate to this object.’
5. With this a security dialog flashed asking’ you are preventing any
inheritable permissions from propagating to this object. What do you want to
do?’ I pressed ‘Remove’ button.
6. At this time under the ‘security’ tab no owner was shown. I clicked
‘Advanced’ button.
7. Now a Dialog box ‘Access control settings for Network’ appeared. In this
under ‘Permissions’ tab I clicked ‘Add’ and added power user ‘self’.
8. With this a new dialog box appered ‘Permission Entry for Network’. Under
‘allow’ I checked all check boxes and then clicked OK.
9. Then ‘Apply’ and ‘OK’ buttons under ‘ Access Control Settings for
Network..’
10. Then I logged off ‘self’ and changed to ‘Administrator’.
11. I couldn’t get direct access to the folder. So under properties I took
the ownership of that folder.
12. I could now see the files in that folder.
13. Now when I tried to open that particular file say Excel file I got the
message ‘ Excel can not access particular file. The document may be read only
or encrypted.’

I MADE A FOLDER “SelfData2’ UNDER ADMINISTRATOR AND LOGGED OFF AND CHANGED
TO USER ‘self’. I COPIED SOME FILES IN THIS FOLDER AND REPEATED THE ABOVE
PROCEDURE. THIS TIME I COULD OPEN THE FILES.

This appears to be very good security feature. But how to decrypt the files.
I have tried with mmc and consoles and tried to import encryption and
recovery certificates. But this didn’t work.

In market there are plethora of third party licensed software for folder
security. Why so much complications in Microsoft for a user.


Dave Patrick said:
Explorer|"folder"|File|Properties|Security|Advanced|Owner and take ownership

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello Dave,
| I was unable to do it.
| Or may be I was unable to follow proper steps.
| Can you please explain the steps to be taken.
| Dhuri
 
Make sure that the file is not read-only. I didn't have much time this AM to
look though these but see if one of these helps.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...xm=12&as_maxy=2005&num=100&as_scoring=d&hl=en

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello Dave,
| Sorry that I couldn't reply immediately. For to weeks I wasn't able
| to connect to microsoft support forums.
| I tried your suggestion , but I couldn't get a solution.
| I tried the following:-
| This is how one can try the experiment.
| 1. I logged off 'Administrator' and changed to power user 'self' having
log
| in password.
| 2. I made a folder 'SelfData' and kept some Excel , Word and wordpad
files.
| 3. I right clicked the folder and went to properties.
| 4. Under 'security' tab I unchecked the check box 'Allow inheritable
| permissions from parent to propagate to this object.'
| 5. With this a security dialog flashed asking' you are preventing any
| inheritable permissions from propagating to this object. What do you want
to
| do?' I pressed 'Remove' button.
| 6. At this time under the 'security' tab no owner was shown. I clicked
| 'Advanced' button.
| 7. Now a Dialog box 'Access control settings for Network' appeared. In
this
| under 'Permissions' tab I clicked 'Add' and added power user 'self'.
| 8. With this a new dialog box appered 'Permission Entry for Network'.
Under
| 'allow' I checked all check boxes and then clicked OK.
| 9. Then 'Apply' and 'OK' buttons under ' Access Control Settings for
| Network..'
| 10. Then I logged off 'self' and changed to 'Administrator'.
| 11. I couldn't get direct access to the folder. So under properties I took
| the ownership of that folder.
| 12. I could now see the files in that folder.
| 13. Now when I tried to open that particular file say Excel file I got the
| message ' Excel can not access particular file. The document may be read
only
| or encrypted.'
|
| I MADE A FOLDER "SelfData2' UNDER ADMINISTRATOR AND LOGGED OFF AND CHANGED
| TO USER 'self'. I COPIED SOME FILES IN THIS FOLDER AND REPEATED THE ABOVE
| PROCEDURE. THIS TIME I COULD OPEN THE FILES.
|
| This appears to be very good security feature. But how to decrypt the
files.
| I have tried with mmc and consoles and tried to import encryption and
| recovery certificates. But this didn't work.
|
| In market there are plethora of third party licensed software for folder
| security. Why so much complications in Microsoft for a user.
 
Hello Dave,
I tried with efsinfo from Microsoft TechNet Article ID 243026
‘Using Efsinfo.exe to determine information about encrypted files’. But this
Efsinfo.exe file is not available on my standalone PC. It is clearly written
in this article that ‘Stand-alone Windows 2000 workstations and servers do
not display the recovery agent information. The default recovery agent for
all stand-alone computers is the local Administrator account.’

I couldn’t solve this problem using google help.

No files in this folder are encrypted or read only. Only the folder is
secured. This is applicable to all types of files not just MSoffice files. In
the above trial if we move some files in user mode who has secured the
folder, other users even administrator can’t see the contents of these files.
This appears to be a good feature of folder protection. But how to make use
of this?

Dhuri



dhuri said:
Hello Dave,
Sorry that I couldn't reply immediately. For to weeks I wasn't able
to connect to microsoft support forums.
I tried your suggestion , but I couldn't get a solution.
I tried the following:-
This is how one can try the experiment.
1. I logged off ‘Administrator’ and changed to power user ‘self’ having log
in password.
2. I made a folder ‘SelfData’ and kept some Excel , Word and wordpad files.
3. I right clicked the folder and went to properties.
4. Under ‘security’ tab I unchecked the check box ‘Allow inheritable
permissions from parent to propagate to this object.’
5. With this a security dialog flashed asking’ you are preventing any
inheritable permissions from propagating to this object. What do you want to
do?’ I pressed ‘Remove’ button.
6. At this time under the ‘security’ tab no owner was shown. I clicked
‘Advanced’ button.
7. Now a Dialog box ‘Access control settings for Network’ appeared. In this
under ‘Permissions’ tab I clicked ‘Add’ and added power user ‘self’.
8. With this a new dialog box appered ‘Permission Entry for Network’. Under
‘allow’ I checked all check boxes and then clicked OK.
9. Then ‘Apply’ and ‘OK’ buttons under ‘ Access Control Settings for
Network..’
10. Then I logged off ‘self’ and changed to ‘Administrator’.
11. I couldn’t get direct access to the folder. So under properties I took
the ownership of that folder.
12. I could now see the files in that folder.
13. Now when I tried to open that particular file say Excel file I got the
message ‘ Excel can not access particular file. The document may be read only
or encrypted.’

I MADE A FOLDER “SelfData2’ UNDER ADMINISTRATOR AND LOGGED OFF AND CHANGED
TO USER ‘self’. I COPIED SOME FILES IN THIS FOLDER AND REPEATED THE ABOVE
PROCEDURE. THIS TIME I COULD OPEN THE FILES.

This appears to be very good security feature. But how to decrypt the files.
I have tried with mmc and consoles and tried to import encryption and
recovery certificates. But this didn’t work.

In market there are plethora of third party licensed software for folder
security. Why so much complications in Microsoft for a user.


Dave Patrick said:
Explorer|"folder"|File|Properties|Security|Advanced|Owner and take ownership

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello Dave,
| I was unable to do it.
| Or may be I was unable to follow proper steps.
| Can you please explain the steps to be taken.
| Dhuri
 
You can get it here.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/efsinfo-o.asp

You should be able to take ownership as local administrator on the machine.
What happens if you copy a file to floppy and try opening on another
machine?

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello Dave,
| I tried with efsinfo from Microsoft TechNet Article ID 243026
| 'Using Efsinfo.exe to determine information about encrypted files'. But
this
| Efsinfo.exe file is not available on my standalone PC. It is clearly
written
| in this article that 'Stand-alone Windows 2000 workstations and servers do
| not display the recovery agent information. The default recovery agent for
| all stand-alone computers is the local Administrator account.'
|
| I couldn't solve this problem using google help.
|
| No files in this folder are encrypted or read only. Only the folder is
| secured. This is applicable to all types of files not just MSoffice files.
In
| the above trial if we move some files in user mode who has secured the
| folder, other users even administrator can't see the contents of these
files.
| This appears to be a good feature of folder protection. But how to make
use
| of this?
|
| Dhuri
|
|
|
| "dhuri" wrote:
|
| > Hello Dave,
| > Sorry that I couldn't reply immediately. For to weeks I wasn't
able
| > to connect to microsoft support forums.
| > I tried your suggestion , but I couldn't get a solution.
| > I tried the following:-
| > This is how one can try the experiment.
| > 1. I logged off 'Administrator' and changed to power user 'self' having
log
| > in password.
| > 2. I made a folder 'SelfData' and kept some Excel , Word and wordpad
files.
| > 3. I right clicked the folder and went to properties.
| > 4. Under 'security' tab I unchecked the check box 'Allow inheritable
| > permissions from parent to propagate to this object.'
| > 5. With this a security dialog flashed asking' you are preventing any
| > inheritable permissions from propagating to this object. What do you
want to
| > do?' I pressed 'Remove' button.
| > 6. At this time under the 'security' tab no owner was shown. I clicked
| > 'Advanced' button.
| > 7. Now a Dialog box 'Access control settings for Network' appeared. In
this
| > under 'Permissions' tab I clicked 'Add' and added power user 'self'.
| > 8. With this a new dialog box appered 'Permission Entry for Network'.
Under
| > 'allow' I checked all check boxes and then clicked OK.
| > 9. Then 'Apply' and 'OK' buttons under ' Access Control Settings for
| > Network..'
| > 10. Then I logged off 'self' and changed to 'Administrator'.
| > 11. I couldn't get direct access to the folder. So under properties I
took
| > the ownership of that folder.
| > 12. I could now see the files in that folder.
| > 13. Now when I tried to open that particular file say Excel file I got
the
| > message ' Excel can not access particular file. The document may be read
only
| > or encrypted.'
| >
| > I MADE A FOLDER "SelfData2' UNDER ADMINISTRATOR AND LOGGED OFF AND
CHANGED
| > TO USER 'self'. I COPIED SOME FILES IN THIS FOLDER AND REPEATED THE
ABOVE
| > PROCEDURE. THIS TIME I COULD OPEN THE FILES.
| >
| > This appears to be very good security feature. But how to decrypt the
files.
| > I have tried with mmc and consoles and tried to import encryption and
| > recovery certificates. But this didn't work.
| >
| > In market there are plethora of third party licensed software for folder
| > security. Why so much complications in Microsoft for a user.
 
Hello Dave
As an administrator I can take the ownership of the folder. But while
copying the files from this folder to other computers or even floppy I get
the message ‘ Cannot copy. Access denied. The source file may be in use.’
I downloaded and executed the efsinfo.exe file from sit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/efsinfo-o.asp
But I could not execute it as I got the message at command prompt and this
is not recognized as an internal or external command.
With built in cipher command my encrypted folder was not detected.
Please note that none of the file attributes in this folder are read only.
Also these files are not corrupt.


Dave Patrick said:
You can get it here.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/efsinfo-o.asp

You should be able to take ownership as local administrator on the machine.
What happens if you copy a file to floppy and try opening on another
machine?

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello Dave,
| I tried with efsinfo from Microsoft TechNet Article ID 243026
| 'Using Efsinfo.exe to determine information about encrypted files'. But
this
| Efsinfo.exe file is not available on my standalone PC. It is clearly
written
| in this article that 'Stand-alone Windows 2000 workstations and servers do
| not display the recovery agent information. The default recovery agent for
| all stand-alone computers is the local Administrator account.'
|
| I couldn't solve this problem using google help.
|
| No files in this folder are encrypted or read only. Only the folder is
| secured. This is applicable to all types of files not just MSoffice files.
In
| the above trial if we move some files in user mode who has secured the
| folder, other users even administrator can't see the contents of these
files.
| This appears to be a good feature of folder protection. But how to make
use
| of this?
|
| Dhuri
|
|
|
| "dhuri" wrote:
|
| > Hello Dave,
| > Sorry that I couldn't reply immediately. For to weeks I wasn't
able
| > to connect to microsoft support forums.
| > I tried your suggestion , but I couldn't get a solution.
| > I tried the following:-
| > This is how one can try the experiment.
| > 1. I logged off 'Administrator' and changed to power user 'self' having
log
| > in password.
| > 2. I made a folder 'SelfData' and kept some Excel , Word and wordpad
files.
| > 3. I right clicked the folder and went to properties.
| > 4. Under 'security' tab I unchecked the check box 'Allow inheritable
| > permissions from parent to propagate to this object.'
| > 5. With this a security dialog flashed asking' you are preventing any
| > inheritable permissions from propagating to this object. What do you
want to
| > do?' I pressed 'Remove' button.
| > 6. At this time under the 'security' tab no owner was shown. I clicked
| > 'Advanced' button.
| > 7. Now a Dialog box 'Access control settings for Network' appeared. In
this
| > under 'Permissions' tab I clicked 'Add' and added power user 'self'.
| > 8. With this a new dialog box appered 'Permission Entry for Network'.
Under
| > 'allow' I checked all check boxes and then clicked OK.
| > 9. Then 'Apply' and 'OK' buttons under ' Access Control Settings for
| > Network..'
| > 10. Then I logged off 'self' and changed to 'Administrator'.
| > 11. I couldn't get direct access to the folder. So under properties I
took
| > the ownership of that folder.
| > 12. I could now see the files in that folder.
| > 13. Now when I tried to open that particular file say Excel file I got
the
| > message ' Excel can not access particular file. The document may be read
only
| > or encrypted.'
| >
| > I MADE A FOLDER "SelfData2' UNDER ADMINISTRATOR AND LOGGED OFF AND
CHANGED
| > TO USER 'self'. I COPIED SOME FILES IN THIS FOLDER AND REPEATED THE
ABOVE
| > PROCEDURE. THIS TIME I COULD OPEN THE FILES.
| >
| > This appears to be very good security feature. But how to decrypt the
files.
| > I have tried with mmc and consoles and tried to import encryption and
| > recovery certificates. But this didn't work.
| >
| > In market there are plethora of third party licensed software for folder
| > security. Why so much complications in Microsoft for a user.
 
If the files are in fact encrypted then this is a separate issue. In this
case these links may help.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prnb_efs_ayqu.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prnb_efs_wpiu.asp

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hello Dave
| As an administrator I can take the ownership of the folder. But while
| copying the files from this folder to other computers or even floppy I get
| the message ' Cannot copy. Access denied. The source file may be in use.'
| I downloaded and executed the efsinfo.exe file from site
|
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/efsinfo-o.asp
| But I could not execute it as I got the message at command prompt and this
| is not recognized as an internal or external command.
| With built in cipher command my encrypted folder was not detected.
| Please note that none of the file attributes in this folder are read only.
| Also these files are not corrupt.
 

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