unable to format sata rw dvd with incd

Z

zirath

recently installed a sata rw dvd drive (liteon DH16W1S). We have windows
xp home edition sp3. It is recognized in the device manager but incd isn't
listing it.

Is there a different format program we need?

Thanks
 
S

sgopus

you don't format it, just put in a DVD with the proper software that supports
DVD burning, as XP doesn't, just CD burning.in order to see the drive , you
must insert a prewritten dvd first, or cd. an empty drive displays nothing.
 
S

smlunatick

you don't format it, just put in a DVD with the proper software that supports
DVD burning, as XP doesn't, just CD burning.in order to see the drive , you
must insert a prewritten dvd first, or cd. an empty drive displays nothing.

InCD can be used to format most DVD(-+)RW medias. These then behave
like a super huge floppy disk. DVD(-+)R medias should not be used
with UnCD since these media are most write once mode medias.
 
M

M.I.5¾

sgopus said:
you don't format it, just put in a DVD with the proper software that
supports
DVD burning, as XP doesn't, just CD burning.in order to see the drive ,
you
must insert a prewritten dvd first, or cd. an empty drive displays
nothing.

Not correct. InCD (and indeed any Packet Incremental writing utility)
requires that the target disc be formatted before it can be written to.
 
M

M.I.5¾

you don't format it, just put in a DVD with the proper software that
supports
DVD burning, as XP doesn't, just CD burning.in order to see the drive ,
you
must insert a prewritten dvd first, or cd. an empty drive displays
nothing.

InCD can be used to format most DVD(-+)RW medias. These then behave
like a super huge floppy disk. DVD(-+)R medias should not be used
with UnCD since these media are most write once mode medias.
 
S

smlunatick

InCD can be used to format most DVD(-+)RW medias.  These then behave
like a super huge floppy disk.   DVD(-+)R medias should not be used
with UnCD since these media are most write once mode medias.

That surprises me since I got my installation of InCD to use DVD
medias.
 
B

Bill in Co.

M.I.5¾ said:
InCD can be used to format most DVD(-+)RW medias. These then behave
like a super huge floppy disk. DVD(-+)R medias should not be used
with UnCD since these media are most write once mode medias.

Presumably because the InCD component is a packet-writing component, which
is distinctly separate and different from the normal DAO writing component
used to write once to a disc.

I decided early on NOT to install the packet writing stuff (e.g: InCD and/or
DirectCD), and stick with much more reliable and dependable DAO format. :)
 
M

M.I.5¾

InCD can be used to format most DVD(-+)RW medias. These then behave
like a super huge floppy disk. DVD(-+)R medias should not be used
with UnCD since these media are most write once mode medias.

That surprises me since I got my installation of InCD to use DVD
medias.
 
M

M.I.5¾

Bill in Co. said:
Presumably because the InCD component is a packet-writing component, which
is distinctly separate and different from the normal DAO writing component
used to write once to a disc.

I decided early on NOT to install the packet writing stuff (e.g: InCD
and/or DirectCD), and stick with much more reliable and dependable DAO
format. :)

Packet writing is very dependable when you use a DVD+RW. It's DVD-RW and
CD-RW that give the problems.
 
B

Bill in Co.

M.I.5¾ said:
Packet writing is very dependable when you use a DVD+RW. It's DVD-RW and
CD-RW that give the problems.

Even between diffferent computers, and/or using different CD/DVD drives?
And in comparison to DAO? I doubt it is as dependable, at least from what
I've read.
 
M

M.I.5¾

Bill in Co. said:
Even between diffferent computers, and/or using different CD/DVD drives?
And in comparison to DAO? I doubt it is as dependable, at least from
what I've read.

It gets its dependability from the fact that a DVD drive can locate specific
parts of the disc structure with byte accuracy (this is what the '+' format
brought to the party). By contrast the DVD-RW and CD-RW can only be
accessed with block accuracy, and even then there is approximately a 1 or 2
block error when it does this. Unfortunatlely, occasionally the error is
greater than this and this is when there is a risk that the drive trashes
some important part of the disc structure.

If you really want to used DVDs in this read/write mode and your drive
supports DVD-RAM then this has to be the medium of choice.
 
B

Bill in Co.

M.I.5¾ said:
It gets its dependability from the fact that a DVD drive can locate
specific
parts of the disc structure with byte accuracy (this is what the '+'
format
brought to the party). By contrast the DVD-RW and CD-RW can only be
accessed with block accuracy, and even then there is approximately a 1 or
2
block error when it does this. Unfortunatlely, occasionally the error is
greater than this and this is when there is a risk that the drive trashes
some important part of the disc structure.

If you really want to used DVDs in this read/write mode and your drive
supports DVD-RAM then this has to be the medium of choice.

Well see, that's the key. Why not play it (almost fully) safe, and JUST
use the DAO mode? (i.e, NO packet writing potential bugaboos whatsoever
(even including some potential problems with having more than one such app
on the system, and conflicts therein - but mainly for the overall guaranteed
reliability aspect).

CDs and DVDs aren't that expensive anymore. And besides, if you're making
such frequent backups that you want that feature, it's just better done to a
backup HD, instead.
 
M

M.I.5¾

Bill in Co. said:
Well see, that's the key. Why not play it (almost fully) safe, and JUST
use the DAO mode? (i.e, NO packet writing potential bugaboos whatsoever
(even including some potential problems with having more than one such app
on the system, and conflicts therein - but mainly for the overall
guaranteed reliability aspect).

CDs and DVDs aren't that expensive anymore. And besides, if you're
making such frequent backups that you want that feature, it's just better
done to a backup HD, instead.

Whilst what you say is quite valid, there are those who really do want to
use optical drives this way.
 

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