Ubuntu - Read the review - Ubuntu Sucks

[Homer Schwartz]

Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just educating
Vista users for alternatives.

Read this

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

 

[Stephan Rose]

Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just educating
Vista users for alternatives.

Read this

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

I actually agree with all the guys points.

1. Flash should be installed by default. I mean the one single mouse click
to accept Firefox's suggestion to install it isn't the end of the world,
but it shouldn't be necessary.

2. I also agree that the automated driver install does need a little bit
more work. It should automatically install the nVidia driver and it also
needs to put a shortcut to the nVidia settings tool that allows a user to
configure the desktop without the need to edit any config files. The
nVidia driver install from nVidia's website actually does this, the
restricted driver manager does not. I consider it a bug.

3. DVDs are an issue in the sense that there is a legal problem with them.
libdvdcss that allows for CSS decryption is a bit of a legal minefield.
You can read more about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss

4. The Migration tool detects XP fine, though I have no idea what it
actually Migrates. I personally don't even care. Due to how new Vista is,
expecting Feisty to support Vista migration is honestly a bit unrealistic.
Even if Feisty was released a few months after Vista, the specs were set
in stone already much earlier prior to Vista's release.

Now the release in Gutsy on the other hand, coming up later this year, I
*would* expect Vista migration to be available.

Now all of that said, none of them are ground-breaking issues in my mind.
Would take me about 10 minutes, if even that long, to resolve them and
live happily ever after.

I wouldn't be surprised to see issue #1 and #2 disappear from the list in
the new upcoming release.

If *that* is the worst that the person who wrote the review can come up
with...that's not much.

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Stephan
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[DanS]

Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is
just educating Vista users for alternatives.

Read this

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

I didn't see anywhere where it said Ubuntu sucks.

Problem 1, Firefox didn't install BY DEFAULT. 'Why should users have to
install it themselves ?' - If you can't d/l and install it yourself, you
have no business using a computer.

2. He had problems with the video drivers.....(sound familiar).....they
were installed, but he couldn't get resolution higher than 1024 x 768.

No attempts were made to fix it.

3. The DVD wouldn't play. No deal breaker there either.

4. The Windows Migration tool didn't detect the Vista install, followed
by......

'I shed no tears about this as I rarely use Windows these days anyway'.

So I guess Jim Lynch is a smart man afterall.

 

[Frank]

Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just
educating Vista users for alternatives.

Read this

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
more like it."
Ouch!
Frank

 

[Bill Yanaire]

You're right, I read somewhere that it will be called "Crappy Cow 7.8", but
the results will be the same..... Same stench !

 

[norm]

You're right, I read somewhere that it will be called "Crappy Cow 7.8", but
the results will be the same..... Same stench !

Put on your nose plugs, quit complaining and walk away.

 

[Alias]

Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just
educating Vista users for alternatives.

Read this

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

All this review does is prove how lazy the writer is and how little he
knows about Ubuntu and has no credible right to be writing a review.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
more like it."
Ouch!
Frank

It figures you would like that quote. The guy doesn't know what he's
doing. I, a non expert, solved all the problems he had without having to
move anything Windows over to Linux. All I needed is my data to be up an
running.

I am watching a DVD right now. I have flash, java etc. The guy is about
as lame as you, Frankie boy.

Alias

 

[ray]

Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just educating
Vista users for alternatives.

Read this

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

Very easy to make that assessment for yourself. It costs absolutely
nothing to try Ubuntu and you can even run it as a Live CD - loads and
runs from the CD with no install and without touching the hard drive. Now
- where do I find the vista Live CD??

 

[Harry Krause]

It figures you would like that quote. The guy doesn't know what he's
doing. I, a non expert, solved all the problems he had without having to
move anything Windows over to Linux. All I needed is my data to be up an
running.

I am watching a DVD right now. I have flash, java etc. The guy is about
as lame as you, Frankie boy.

Alias

I didn't know anything about VISTA when I popped its install disc into
my DVD/CD drive. It took care of business and as it was finishing up, it
presented a couple of simple questions for me to answer. When it
finished, EVERY piece of hardware I have was installed by the OS, except
for my scanner, and a quick Q&A here took care of that, too.

I find no compelling reason to switch to LINUX. Further, most of the
LINUX priests who post are as obnoxious as you are, providing additional
reasons not to switch over.

Have a nice day.

 

[Alias]

I didn't know anything about VISTA when I popped its install disc into
my DVD/CD drive. It took care of business and as it was finishing up, it
presented a couple of simple questions for me to answer. When it
finished, EVERY piece of hardware I have was installed by the OS, except
for my scanner, and a quick Q&A here took care of that, too.

I had the same experience with Ubuntu but I didn't have to pay $800 US
dollars to have it.

I find no compelling reason to switch to LINUX. Further, most of the
LINUX priests who post are as obnoxious as you are, providing additional
reasons not to switch over.

You were planning to install a Linux user? How would you go about doing
that? Or are you just using the typical MS user tactic of going after
the messenger in a lame attempt to discredit the message?

Have a nice day.

Advantages of Linux over Windows:

It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.

No viruses

No malware

No need for an anti virus program

No need for a software firewall

No need for anti malware programs

No activation

No WGA, in all of its flavors

No DRM.

No need to buy new, expensive hardware.

I am having a nice day.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Advantages of Linux over Windows:

It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.

No viruses

No malware

No need for an anti virus program

No need for a software firewall

No need for anti malware programs

No activation

No WGA, in all of its flavors

No DRM.

No need to buy new, expensive hardware.

I am having a nice day.

Alias

All lies!
You're a known liar.
No more lies!
Linux loser.
Get a life.
Frank

 

[Alias]

All lies!

A lie.

You're a known liar.

Another lie.

No more lies!

Yeah, when will you stop?

Linux loser.

I haven't lost *anything*.

Get a life.
Frank

I have one, thank you very much and I love living it.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but I know
enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented facts.

Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
Frank

 

[GO]

All lies!
You're a known liar.
No more lies!
Linux loser.
Get a life.
Frank

Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but I know
enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented facts.

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Quarta, 20 de Junho de 2007 16:07, Alias escreveu:

Advantages of Linux over Windows:

It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.

No viruses

No malware

No need for an anti virus program

No need for a software firewall

No need for anti malware programs

No activation

No WGA, in all of its flavors

No DRM.

No need to buy new, expensive hardware.

I am having a nice day.

Alias

Adding:

--Multi-language... we can have 100 diferent users in the same system, each
one with using a diferent language... with windows they're stick to just
one except if they bye a special windows MUI and even with that, they are
stick to less then 20 languages.

--Easyer to use after everything configured, and only needs to configure
once.

--Doesn't lie to the user and never treat the user like a dog... while
windows says that a unix floppy is not formated, a lie, it is formated and
have information in there, stupid windows just can not read it. Windows
crash by inself and after that it ass-rapes the user saying that he didn't
shutdown the pc as he should.

--No frangmentation of disks.

--Kids can use it, kids with 2-3 years old... while in windows... kaput,
reinstall or pray that the system restore work once more. I know this by
years of experience... in my windows days, i was allways afraid to let kids
of this age play with the computer... now, with linux, no problem...
and they have lots and lots of games to play.

--Permission system really works, while in windows is a joke... how come
that parental control doesn't work when using firefox? who does the control
anyway? vista or the browser ? so vista's parental control only works if
the browser is compatible... the same way that permissions only block virus
if those virus are made to be compatible with the system.

--Doesn't have to have the same look&fell

--Brings free programs to do everything that a computer can do, we only
install extra progs if we want to.

--Pushes the user to learn about computers, while windows push then to be
ignorant.

--When it does not support (by is own) some hardware it allways inform the
user about what hardware it is, while windows usualy says it is a "vga
graphics adapter" when it is a "SIS chip", or "microsoft sound system" when
in fact it is a "yamaha opl chip". When configuring harware, it makes a lot
of diference.


and so on and on... i've been using linux for 4 years now, before that i
used windows, and still do at work... i know both systems a i could be
writing things like this for a week.

Regards

 

[GO]

Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
Frank

Good job! Way to prove how any of the statements are false.

 

[Frank]

Good job! Way to prove how any of the statements are false.

Well I'll just take one example for instance. When the clown said..."No
need for a software firewall".
Fine with me. But you just got to ask yourself one question punk...do
you feel safe...well do you punk?
Then ask yourself if in fact, as you believe, there is no need for a
firewall as he said, and you concurred...then why does it come with a
software firewall?
Hummm...good question huh?
Well..best to know what you're talking about before you commit to die
for it.
You'a think?
Frank

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Quinta, 21 de Junho de 2007 03:08, Frank escreveu:

Well I'll just take one example for instance. When the clown said..."No
need for a software firewall".
Fine with me. But you just got to ask yourself one question punk...do
you feel safe...well do you punk?
Then ask yourself if in fact, as you believe, there is no need for a
firewall as he said, and you concurred...then why does it come with a
software firewall?

linux firewall is inserted in the kernel (the core of the OS), there is no
need to install a program to do the firewalling...
this way is safer, a standalone software firewall may crash and stop working
leaving the system unsafe, while if the core crash, everything stops
working, no machine responding to attacks anymore.

those programs you might have saw like firestarter, guarddog, etc... are not
the firewall, they are just script generators to set firewall preferencies,
those programs are opened to set something in the firewall and then closed
after setting... they are not the firewall, and they do not need to be
running full time like the firewalls for windows.

Hummm...good question huh?

got it, huh?

Well..best to know what you're talking about before you commit to die

well said... i've seen you dying a lot around here.

regards

 

[norm]

Well I'll just take one example for instance. When the clown said..."No
need for a software firewall".
Fine with me. But you just got to ask yourself one question punk...do
you feel safe...well do you punk?
Then ask yourself if in fact, as you believe, there is no need for a
firewall as he said, and you concurred...then why does it come with a
software firewall?
Hummm...good question huh?
Well..best to know what you're talking about before you commit to die
for it.
You'a think?
Frank

Why does vista come with an outbound firewall that by default needs to
first be configured before it is of any use. The iptables firewall is
included, if I read correctly, in all iterations of linux, and it too
has to be configured before it is of any use. If one wants to use
either, one must be prepared to configure first. So in reality, both
vista and linux include a firewall, but neither are internet ready in
all (in the case of vista) or any (in the case of ubuntu) in their
installed state.