Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

[RichardOnRails]

Hi,

Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
complete, a window opened informing me::

The following updates were not installed
* Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
* Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)


"Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
Framework elements are installed:
* (English)
* 1.0 Hotfix
* 1.1
* 1.1 Hotfix
* 2.0 Beta 2
* SDK (English)

Why were the updates not installed?

Thanks in Advance,
Richard

 

[db ´¯`·.. >]

if i recall, version
3 requires that the
previous versions
be uninstalled.

until then, ver
3 won't install.

 

[RichardOnRails]

if i recall, version
3 requires that the
previous versions
be uninstalled.

until then, ver
3 won't install.

Thanks, DB.

I my have posted prematurely. After I accepted Windows' announcement
about installation failure, I got another window with icons for the
failed items that had more info. I'll post back after I followed that
path to its completion.

Regards,
Richard

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2 in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 (ignore the title).

If no joy, see this related post by my colleague MowGreen:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/4d76de7769d04493

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

 

[RichardOnRails]

See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2 inhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100(ignore the title).

If no joy, see this related post by my colleague MowGreen:http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/4d7...

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been appliedhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/

Thanks for your excellent advice, Robear. I followed some of the
guidance of the sites your referenced. Thinks seem to go very well
until I tried MS Update. I may of had a failure because I was running
Firefox while I was running Update in IE7. I'll try again later today
without running other apps while updating.

Just for the record, here's what I did and experienced:

* Uninstalled entire .Net Framework
* Ran WindowsInstallCleanup(MSICUU2.exe)
* Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
o Closed all running apps
o Automatically backed up Registry
* Ran Microsoft Update in IE7 with Custom option: Got 3 Software,
Optional MS .Net Frmwk items:
o Ver. 1.1
o 2.0 x86
o 3.0 x86
* Update failed:
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
done!
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2
of 3)... done!
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416) (update 3
of 3)... done!
o Initializing installation... done!
o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
failed!
o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2 of
3)...Canceled
o Canceling updates...

Again, thanks for sharing your Microsoft wisdom,

Best wishes,
Richard

 

[smlunatick]

if i recall, version
3 requires that the
previous versions
be uninstalled.

until then, ver
3 won't install.
--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>











- Show quoted text -

NO! .NET 3.0 does install when the previous ones are still on the PC
(I have all three.)

 

[db ´¯`·.. >]

you're welcome.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

if i recall, version
3 requires that the
previous versions
be uninstalled.

until then, ver
3 won't install.
--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

message

Thanks, DB.

I my have posted prematurely. After I accepted Windows' announcement
about installation failure, I got another window with icons for the
failed items that had more info. I'll post back after I followed that
path to its completion.

Regards,
Richard

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Thanks for your excellentfor your excellent advice, Robear. I followed
some of the
guidance of the sites your referenced. Thinks seem to go very well
until I tried MS Update. I may of had a failure because I was running
Firefox while I was running Update in IE7. I'll try again later today
without running other apps while updating.

Just for the record, here's what I did and experienced:

* Uninstalled entire .Net Framework
* Ran WindowsInstallCleanup(MSICUU2.exe)
* Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
o Closed all running apps
o Automatically backed up Registry
* Ran Microsoft Update in IE7 with Custom option: Got 3 Software,
Optional MS .Net Frmwk items:
o Ver. 1.1
o 2.0 x86
o 3.0 x86
* Update failed:
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
done!
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2
of 3)... done!
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416) (update 3
of 3)... done!
o Initializing installation... done!
o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
failed!
o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2 of
3)...Canceled
o Canceling updates...

Again, thanks for sharing your Microsoft wisdom...
YW.

I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.

Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?

I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.

You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

Is Automatic Updates enabled?

* Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
o Closed all running apps
o Automatically backed up Registry

Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
MaxRegistryCleaner? If a Registry cleaner doesn't automatically make
back-ups of the changes being made (or prompts you to do so...and you do
so), steer clear of it. In fact, it might be a good idea to steer clear of
all Registry cleaners: Your use of MaxRegistryCleaner may be why these
updates are failing. Read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw
your own conclusions.

If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?

 

[RichardOnRails]

Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?


You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

Is Automatic Updates enabled?


Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
MaxRegistryCleaner? If a Registry cleaner doesn't automatically make
back-ups of the changes being made (or prompts you to do so...and you do
so), steer clear of it. In fact, it might be a good idea to steer clear of
all Registry cleaners: Your use of MaxRegistryCleaner may be why these
updates are failing. Readhttp://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099and draw
your own conclusions.

If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/

Hi Robear,

I'm replying here simply to respond to your questions on this thread.
In the future I will use the update NG. First off, update has been
successful. At least, I've got:
- 1.1
- 2.0 SP1
- 3.0
I thought I'd have 3.5 recommended/installed also, but it wasn't
recommended by Update. I'll probable get that when I install some app
that requires it.

Since my problem is solved, there's no need for you to read further.
Out of respect for the fact you provided me with a number of
instructive questions, I have listed them below, along with my
responses.

Again, thank for offering me your guidance. It is much appreciated.

Best wishes,
Richard

Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?

Yes, I only used 935100.

You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

I was using Update under IE7. I was running Firefox in another
window.

Is Automatic Updates enabled? Yes

Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running MaxRegistryCleaner?

No, MaxRegCl offers that as a start-up option and I elected it.

Read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw
your own conclusions.

I will.

If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it

Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?

I don't know ... but I don't have it anymore

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Hi Robear,

I'm replying here simply to respond to your questions on this thread.
In the future I will use the update NG. First off, update has been
successful. At least, I've got:
- 1.1
- 2.0 SP1
- 3.0
I thought I'd have 3.5 recommended/installed also, but it wasn't
recommended by Update. I'll probable get that when I install some app
that requires it.

Since my problem is solved, there's no need for you to read further.
Out of respect for the fact you provided me with a number of
instructive questions, I have listed them below, along with my
responses.

Again, thank for offering me your guidance. It is much appreciated.

Best wishes,
Richard

Yes, I only used 935100.

I was using Update under IE7. I was running Firefox in another
window.

No, MaxRegCl offers that as a start-up option and I elected it.


I will.

I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it


I don't know ... but I don't have it anymore

I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it

In future, RTFM in its entirety before acting! <eg>

 

[RichardOnRails]

In future, RTFM in its entirety before acting! <eg>

Mea Culpa :-(