Turn off searching ZIP files?

[Robert Morley]

Is there any way to turn off searching within ZIP files from the Windows XP
Search menu? I've got a ton of ZIP files, none of which I want searched,
and it takes forever as Windows tries to go through them all, when I
could've finished a "real" search in moments.

I'm well familiar with the registry if that's the only way to do it.

Any ideas?



Thanks,
Rob

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Is there any way to turn off searching within ZIP files from the
Windows XP Search menu? I've got a ton of ZIP files, none of which
I want searched, and it takes forever as Windows tries to go
through them all, when I could've finished a "real" search in
moments.
I'm well familiar with the registry if that's the only way to do it.

Any ideas?

Now is a good time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )

A result...

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article03-202

 

[Robert Morley]

Hehehe...thanks for the tip, but whatever search terms you used obviously
weren't the search terms I used the last time I tried this, as I remember
coming up with a lot of false hits, and no good ones. I'll give that one a
try and see if it works.

Besides which, I consider posting to a newsgroup to be just as valid as
searching on the web. The point of both mediums is for those who do know to
provide information to those who don't. The web is a big place; newsgroups
tend to be a bit more focussed.


Rob

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Is there any way to turn off searching within ZIP files from the
Windows XP Search menu? I've got a ton of ZIP files, none of
which I want searched, and it takes forever as Windows tries to go
through them all, when I could've finished a "real" search in
moments.
I'm well familiar with the registry if that's the only way to do
it.
Any ideas?

Shenan Stanley wrote

Now is a good time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others
have found:
Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )

A result...

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article03-202

Hehehe...thanks for the tip, but whatever search terms you used
obviously weren't the search terms I used the last time I tried
this, as I remember coming up with a lot of false hits, and no good
ones. I'll give that one a try and see if it works.

Besides which, I consider posting to a newsgroup to be just as
valid as searching on the web. The point of both mediums is for
those who do know to provide information to those who don't. The
web is a big place; newsgroups tend to be a bit more focussed.

I used:
Windows XP do not search zip files

One mistake people make is they tend to leave out things like what OS they
are using or they try to get too technical (or they don't include specific
words from the error messag - or the entire error message where applicable)
when searching. Type the trouble in your own words - include what you have
and are trying to do... Usually comes back with something useful. If not -
look at your results and modify the search. Put quotes around groups of
words like "Windows XP" - so the search engine looks for an exact match...
etc.

As for the newsgroups being more focused... Wow.
I tend to think not.

Although it may be valid to post your question - if you search the
newsgroups before you post - well - you might find your answer faster for
you and less repetative for those who might answer you. For that I suggest:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search.. As an example - looking for the
owrds you used in your subject (sans punctuation):

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...1&as_maxd=19&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2006&safe=off

Lots of good hits.

 

[Robert Morley]

A-ha! Now I remember why I didn't find an answer the last time I searched.
The solution you posted is an incomplete solution that will be "undone" at
some point. I thought it looked vaguely familiar. See the following thread
for the more complete solution (linked to from the page you posted):

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1138467332?s



Rob

 

[Robert Morley]

I'm not a complete newb...in fact, I'm not a newb at all. I've been
searching the web for at least 15 years now. As my partner has demonstrated
any number of times, however, different people think in different terms. I
can find stuff in MS's knowledge base very easily; he has a hard time of it
and never finds what he wants, despite having no such difficulty on more
generalized search sites.

I also did search the newsgroup first, but found nothing within the last
couple of weeks. Since I'm only using Outlook Express, that was all I got.
I'm not familiar with sites that reflect older newsgroup posts, since I
rarely use newsgroups except the ones that I'm already a regular on (and
therefore have no need to search the history of, usually).

Finally, as for your suggestion that there were lots of good hits from the
google search, that was true enough as far as it went, though like the first
one you posted, most of them didn't cover the bit about the file being
automatically re-registered, which I now remember was the issue I had with
the original solution. Amusingly, I also got my own post reflected back to
me.



Rob

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I'm not a complete newb...in fact, I'm not a newb at all. I've been
searching the web for at least 15 years now. As my partner has
demonstrated any number of times, however, different people think
in different terms. I can find stuff in MS's knowledge base very
easily; he has a hard time of it and never finds what he wants,
despite having no such difficulty on more generalized search sites.

I also did search the newsgroup first, but found nothing within the
last couple of weeks. Since I'm only using Outlook Express, that
was all I got. I'm not familiar with sites that reflect older
newsgroup posts, since I rarely use newsgroups except the ones that
I'm already a regular on (and therefore have no need to search the
history of, usually).
Finally, as for your suggestion that there were lots of good hits
from the google search, that was true enough as far as it went,
though like the first one you posted, most of them didn't cover the
bit about the file being automatically re-registered, which I now
remember was the issue I had with the original solution. Amusingly, I also
got my own post reflected back to me.

No one called you a new at all...
When you have gone beyond the capability of learning - you are dead.
Now you know about Google Groups. Old posts do get archived (unless
constructed a certain way).
Yes - you would get your post back in that search - after all - I used your
exact words.

Use this:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/nofindinsidezip.htm

 

[Robert Morley]

No one called you a new at all...

Maybe not in so many words, but certainly you implied it with "teaching" me
how to use quotes in Google searches, etc. I knew that much 15 years ago.

I think I've managed to unregister and get rid of all instances of
Zipfldr.dll...WFP wasn't very happy with me, but I told it what it could do
with the idea of restoring those files from the original CD.

I'll have a look at the program you sent a link to...looks like it'll be
much more useful than registering and unregistering DLL's, though it may be
a moot point now. Thanks.



Rob

 

[Shenan Stanley]

No one called you a newb at all...

Maybe not in so many words, but certainly you implied it with
"teaching" me how to use quotes in Google searches, etc. I knew
that much 15 years ago.
I think I've managed to unregister and get rid of all instances of
Zipfldr.dll...WFP wasn't very happy with me, but I told it what it
could do with the idea of restoring those files from the original
CD.
I'll have a look at the program you sent a link to...looks like
it'll be much more useful than registering and unregistering DLL's,
though it may be a moot point now. Thanks.

15 years ago, eh?
Might want to do the math on that one. *grin* 1991.
I was selling/using the internet 15 years ago - Mosaic was the browser of
choice and search engines were few and far between.
Google - I believe - was created in 1998.

I implied that you (open to everyone ever reading these posts in the
archives actually) could always learn. I'm sorry if that offended you.

I personally live by the fact that I'll never learn any younger than I am
right now and when I stop learning - I am dead. I don't know you personally
so I have no clue what you do or do not know. You gave no impression either
way, in fact. I have found - in the many thousands of answers given over
the years - it is better to assume your answer shoud cover all bases and
even 'teach a man to fish' should be included in there... than to give too
little information and assume your reader knows more than they do.

I hope that the solution you have decided upon give you no trouble. I hope
you still come back and ask for help when you need it.

Have a good day and a good holiday (which ever one you may celebrate - if
any.)

 

[Robert Morley]

15 years ago, eh?

Might want to do the math on that one. *grin* 1991.

Yes, it was before Google was invented. Yahoo was relatively new, and a
very small company when I started, major competition was Lycos, as I
remember it. I never tried Mosaic, though I'd heard of it. IE was very
new, and Netscape was still a viable competitor that was actually used by a
significant number of people, and in fact had more options at the time. And
when we were taught about searches, we were taught about AND and OR (with
round brackets if they were advanced enough) and quotes, though some
companies used square brackets at the time, IIRC...that was all they could
do at the time, I think. Within a year or two, you even had more advanced
search possibilities including language and domain and only much later did
you get word variations, etc. Might've been '92 or '93 when I started, I
was ballparking it, but close enough, anyway.

I hope that the solution you have decided upon give you no trouble. I
hope you still come back and ask for help when you need it.

At some point during my efforts, ZIP files became disassociated with
anything, but that was an easy enough fix...especially in WinRAR, where it's
a simple checkbox as to which files are associated with it, though I could
always have just tried to open one and selected WinRAR from the list. Don't
remember if WinZIP includes a similar facility...I think it does. Doesn't
really matter.

Now it just remains to be seen if it'll "stay fixed" as so many people have
complained about in the various threads and websites. I certainly expect
any install that updates the file will probably re-register it, but that's
not unreasonable...just as long as it doesn't randomly decide to resurrect
it and re-register it. I permanently deleted the file from every last
folder including the DLL cache and I386 folders and a search confirms that
there are no zipfldr.dll files (or similar) anywhere on any of my drives, so
that *shouldn't* be possible, but I'm always wary of an OS that silently
puts files back right after I delete them.

Have a good day and a good holiday (which ever one you may celebrate - if
any.)

Ummm...Protestant mother, Jewish step-father since I was 10, and I'm Pagan.
Probably best not to ask, it just gets way too confusing! <grin>

Anyway, thanks for your responses, and I apologize if I got a little touchy.


Rob

 

[Guest]

Its not your place to decide what kind of questions people can or cannot post
here.

The type of reply you posted is called trolling. It isn't helpful.

With the same amount of effort you put into your unsolicited advice,
you could just as easily have answered his question.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Its not your place to decide what kind of questions people can or
cannot post here.

The type of reply you posted is called trolling. It isn't helpful.

With the same amount of effort you put into your unsolicited advice,
you could just as easily have answered his question.

I never stated what could/couldn't be posted in the newsgroups. I stated
that the answer could be found in other ways and often faster than posting
and waiting on someone to answer and I gave others the tools to help them do
so.

My reply is not known as 'trolling' - yours - on the other hand is. I have
fed you.

I answered the question with an answer in addition to advice originally...
You offered nothing at all to the thread. Congrats!

 

[TOM7601]

Shenan Stanley wrote:

Snips...

I used:
Windows XP do not search zip files

One mistake people make is they tend to leave out things like what OS they
are using or they try to get too technical (or they don't include specific
words from the error messag - or the entire error message where applicable)
when searching. Type the trouble in your own words - include what you have
and are trying to do... Usually comes back with something useful. If not -
look at your results and modify the search. Put quotes around groups of
words like "Windows XP" - so the search engine looks for an exact match...
etc.

As for the newsgroups being more focused... Wow.
I tend to think not.

Although it may be valid to post your question - if you search the
newsgroups before you post - well - you might find your answer faster for
you and less repetative for those who might answer you. For that I suggest:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search.. As an example - looking for the
owrds you used in your subject (sans punctuation):

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...1&as_maxd=19&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2006&safe=off

Lots of good hits.

Searching newsgroups by subject can be a frustrating exercise. By that,
I mean some folks tend to omit the subject in the subject line. For
instance, how many times do you see requests with titles like: "I Have A
Problem", or "I Need Help", or, "This Is Interesting". I don't see it so
much here, but some groups seem to specialize in the practice. I see the
somewhat the same mentality in answering a person's request by telling
them to "Go Fish", as it were. Such advice, while good, tends to come
across as "I know the answer but I'm going to make you work for it, or beg."

I'm fairly certain that what's meant is to help the person learn how to
search for the answer...