Don said:Why are you always bringing up the rear with Kurt??
Kevin said:Most of the above you have mentioned have firewalls installed.
Something like ZoneAlarm which requires little to no knowledge to
maintain. In any case they would have to intentionally misconfigured
the firewall, or not have one installed *and* not have automatic
update configured. Looks like they slipped out of your hands.
So? I disagree with you, too. The guy is out there doing damage
control. Do you really expect him to say the truth (that it is mostly
the clueless users' fault)?
What an ass!
Kevin said:I don't disagree that there is significant room for improvement on
MS's side. There certainly is. The fact remains that the patch was
out well before the worm hit.
I sympahthize with you, however, your situation is not very common.
Don't try to argue and tell me it is.
So they get "burned" once out of dozens of times by having it on.
They get burned once by having it off. Now what does practical
experience tell them?
Kevin said:You really don't get it do you? If you want to make money, you are
unwilling to openly criticize your own customers, no matter what kind
of very stupid things they do.
Kevin said:I don't intend to make anyone choose an OS against their will. Linux
is a worthy OS, which IMO, still has several rough edges but is worth
trying. If you really, really hate MS so much, it makes no sense to
not try another OS like Linux or perhaps even a different platform
like the Mac.
I wasn't asking for sympathy, I was trying to show you. that because MS
isn't worthy of trust, that people have to do their own testing, and not
just rely on MSs QA!
Not to trust anybody or any company when it comes to computing!
Especially when you use your monopoly power to keep prices artificially
high, and to impose very restrictive licencing terms, on your defective
products!
Who says I haven't?
Kevin said:I agree with your statement, but it is only applicable for corporate
usage and power users. The typical clueless home user would not only
not "do their own testing" but not know the first step in how to
start. Therefore they should be on Automatic Update. The rare bad
updated whose ill effects are usually limited to things like slowing
the computer down, are much better risks than have some worm waltz
onto their system unchallenged.
Clueless users have to trust someone. They either have to trust MS to
put out good patches or trust that the hackers won't hammer their
vulnerable systems.
Kevin said:And you still choose to use Windows? For what reasons?