Trouble ReInstalling Windows Vista Beta 2

G

Guest

I had Vista installed on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop and was working fine
for several months with no problem then suddenly I installed a Virus Scanner
Program which Microsoft said was Vista complient but then I immediately got a
blue screen and everytime I restart and vista loads I keep getting the blue
screen... Then when I go to attempt to Reinstall it now I get a message about
No Device Drivers... I didnt know what drivers it was referring too so I went
and downloaded both the drivers for Hard Drive and CD-Rom from Dell and
burned to CDs and then did LOAD DRIVERS but wont take that.. So anyone know
how I can get this re-installed?
 
G

Guest

no cause everytime it would bluescreen as soon as windows vista started so
couldnt get to add/remove programs... I even tried to boot in safe mode but
did it then too... So now trying to do a new fresh install of vista but wont
let me...
 
C

Chad Harris

Steve--

I am recommending to try the F8 advanced options first, which means to try
each listing on the menu Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe Mode
with Command, and then Last Known Good last there. One may work if another
does not. The first 3 or used as a vehicle to do a system restore. If you
cannot use these, try Last Known Good Configuration. I used some XP MSKB
articles as anxillary information in explaing F8 Windows Adv. Options
because they don't differ radically in step-wise although to be sure Vista
System Restore is now based on Volume Shadow Services.

I don't use Safe Mode VGA for this. I have put every KB that contexts these
options here for you to look at if you need to.

***Your first five options****
These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System Restore
is based on a system now from server technology.

1) I'd use the F8 options including the 3 safe modes (I'm omitting VGA for
this purpose) to try to system restore and I would use Last Known Good if
they don't work. I say 3 because sometimes one works when another will not.
If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter 28 of
the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource Kit. The
MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but these
options are available in Vista and I want you to try them first:

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and Vista]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308041&Product=winxp

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/


How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us

How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration
feature in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us


2) If these 4 options don't work, you can try a new way to fix Vista, called
Startup Repair which is part of a platform in Vista called Windows Repair
Environment or Win RE.

I'm going to tell you what it can do>going to give you the step by step>
and you have no downside for trying it.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
________________________________________________

Good luck,

CH
 
G

Guest

Chad thanks for all the suggestions but I already tried all the options under
the Safe Mode options and none worked as as soon as Vista loads up to the
main desktop screen it would go to bluescreen... No chance to do anything...
Plus I have already removed Vista I re-installed XP Pro like 3 weeks ago..
And just wanted to give Vista another try but wont let me install :'(

Chad Harris said:
Steve--

I am recommending to try the F8 advanced options first, which means to try
each listing on the menu Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe Mode
with Command, and then Last Known Good last there. One may work if another
does not. The first 3 or used as a vehicle to do a system restore. If you
cannot use these, try Last Known Good Configuration. I used some XP MSKB
articles as anxillary information in explaing F8 Windows Adv. Options
because they don't differ radically in step-wise although to be sure Vista
System Restore is now based on Volume Shadow Services.

I don't use Safe Mode VGA for this. I have put every KB that contexts these
options here for you to look at if you need to.

***Your first five options****
These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System Restore
is based on a system now from server technology.

1) I'd use the F8 options including the 3 safe modes (I'm omitting VGA for
this purpose) to try to system restore and I would use Last Known Good if
they don't work. I say 3 because sometimes one works when another will not.
If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter 28 of
the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource Kit. The
MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but these
options are available in Vista and I want you to try them first:

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and Vista]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308041&Product=winxp

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/


How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us

How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration
feature in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us


2) If these 4 options don't work, you can try a new way to fix Vista, called
Startup Repair which is part of a platform in Vista called Windows Repair
Environment or Win RE.

I'm going to tell you what it can do>going to give you the step by step>
and you have no downside for trying it.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
________________________________________________

Good luck,

CH


Steve said:
no cause everytime it would bluescreen as soon as windows vista started so
couldnt get to add/remove programs... I even tried to boot in safe mode
but
did it then too... So now trying to do a new fresh install of vista but
wont
let me...
 
C

Chad Harris

Steve--

If you are sure you have adequate space wherever you're putting Vista, make
sure if there was an antivirus conflict that whichever one it was that you
get it completely uninstalled. Add Remove often doesn't get many of the
files of any AV completely. Try downloading the WICU, the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility (you can google it) and find any entries for your AV and
highlight>enter.

Then you might want to go to the AV site and search a manual uninstall (for
example Norton has tools for this and directions).

I can't imagine that this is an issue requiring any special drivers to be
loaded in setup because you've been able to do this before on the same box.

CH


Steve said:
Chad thanks for all the suggestions but I already tried all the options
under
the Safe Mode options and none worked as as soon as Vista loads up to the
main desktop screen it would go to bluescreen... No chance to do
anything...
Plus I have already removed Vista I re-installed XP Pro like 3 weeks
ago..
And just wanted to give Vista another try but wont let me install :'(

Chad Harris said:
Steve--

I am recommending to try the F8 advanced options first, which means to
try
each listing on the menu Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe Mode
with Command, and then Last Known Good last there. One may work if
another
does not. The first 3 or used as a vehicle to do a system restore. If
you
cannot use these, try Last Known Good Configuration. I used some XP MSKB
articles as anxillary information in explaing F8 Windows Adv. Options
because they don't differ radically in step-wise although to be sure
Vista
System Restore is now based on Volume Shadow Services.

I don't use Safe Mode VGA for this. I have put every KB that contexts
these
options here for you to look at if you need to.

***Your first five options****
These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System
Restore
is based on a system now from server technology.

1) I'd use the F8 options including the 3 safe modes (I'm omitting VGA
for
this purpose) to try to system restore and I would use Last Known Good
if
they don't work. I say 3 because sometimes one works when another will
not.
If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter 28 of
the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource Kit.
The
MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but these
options are available in Vista and I want you to try them first:

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and Vista]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308041&Product=winxp

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/


How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us

How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration
feature in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us


2) If these 4 options don't work, you can try a new way to fix Vista,
called
Startup Repair which is part of a platform in Vista called Windows Repair
Environment or Win RE.

I'm going to tell you what it can do>going to give you the step by step>
and you have no downside for trying it.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and
repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major
tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at
all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File
Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in
the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
________________________________________________

Good luck,

CH


Steve said:
no cause everytime it would bluescreen as soon as windows vista started
so
couldnt get to add/remove programs... I even tried to boot in safe
mode
but
did it then too... So now trying to do a new fresh install of vista but
wont
let me...

:

You did uninstall the virus program?

I had Vista installed on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop and was working
fine
for several months with no problem then suddenly I installed a Virus
Scanner
Program which Microsoft said was Vista complient but then I
immediately
got a
blue screen and everytime I restart and vista loads I keep getting
the
blue
screen... Then when I go to attempt to Reinstall it now I get a
message
about
No Device Drivers... I didnt know what drivers it was referring too
so
I
went
and downloaded both the drivers for Hard Drive and CD-Rom from Dell
and
burned to CDs and then did LOAD DRIVERS but wont take that.. So
anyone
know
how I can get this re-installed?
 
G

Guest

Well right now dont believe it has anything to do with AV seeing how I
formatted my entire harddrive... and wont let me install Vista...

Chad Harris said:
Steve--

If you are sure you have adequate space wherever you're putting Vista, make
sure if there was an antivirus conflict that whichever one it was that you
get it completely uninstalled. Add Remove often doesn't get many of the
files of any AV completely. Try downloading the WICU, the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility (you can google it) and find any entries for your AV and
highlight>enter.

Then you might want to go to the AV site and search a manual uninstall (for
example Norton has tools for this and directions).

I can't imagine that this is an issue requiring any special drivers to be
loaded in setup because you've been able to do this before on the same box.

CH


Steve said:
Chad thanks for all the suggestions but I already tried all the options
under
the Safe Mode options and none worked as as soon as Vista loads up to the
main desktop screen it would go to bluescreen... No chance to do
anything...
Plus I have already removed Vista I re-installed XP Pro like 3 weeks
ago..
And just wanted to give Vista another try but wont let me install :'(

Chad Harris said:
Steve--

I am recommending to try the F8 advanced options first, which means to
try
each listing on the menu Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe Mode
with Command, and then Last Known Good last there. One may work if
another
does not. The first 3 or used as a vehicle to do a system restore. If
you
cannot use these, try Last Known Good Configuration. I used some XP MSKB
articles as anxillary information in explaing F8 Windows Adv. Options
because they don't differ radically in step-wise although to be sure
Vista
System Restore is now based on Volume Shadow Services.

I don't use Safe Mode VGA for this. I have put every KB that contexts
these
options here for you to look at if you need to.

***Your first five options****
These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System
Restore
is based on a system now from server technology.

1) I'd use the F8 options including the 3 safe modes (I'm omitting VGA
for
this purpose) to try to system restore and I would use Last Known Good
if
they don't work. I say 3 because sometimes one works when another will
not.
If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter 28 of
the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource Kit.
The
MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but these
options are available in Vista and I want you to try them first:

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and Vista]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308041&Product=winxp

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/


How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us

How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration
feature in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us


2) If these 4 options don't work, you can try a new way to fix Vista,
called
Startup Repair which is part of a platform in Vista called Windows Repair
Environment or Win RE.

I'm going to tell you what it can do>going to give you the step by step>
and you have no downside for trying it.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and
repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major
tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at
all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File
Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in
the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
________________________________________________

Good luck,

CH


no cause everytime it would bluescreen as soon as windows vista started
so
couldnt get to add/remove programs... I even tried to boot in safe
mode
but
did it then too... So now trying to do a new fresh install of vista but
wont
let me...

:

You did uninstall the virus program?

I had Vista installed on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop and was working
fine
for several months with no problem then suddenly I installed a Virus
Scanner
Program which Microsoft said was Vista complient but then I
immediately
got a
blue screen and everytime I restart and vista loads I keep getting
the
blue
screen... Then when I go to attempt to Reinstall it now I get a
message
about
No Device Drivers... I didnt know what drivers it was referring too
so
I
went
and downloaded both the drivers for Hard Drive and CD-Rom from Dell
and
burned to CDs and then did LOAD DRIVERS but wont take that.. So
anyone
know
how I can get this re-installed?
 
C

Chad Harris

Steve what did you use to install Vista originally? You burned a DVD or used
one mailed from MSFT or mounted on VM ware? I'm wondering if there is any
way you can change those conditions?

CH

Steve said:
Well right now dont believe it has anything to do with AV seeing how I
formatted my entire harddrive... and wont let me install Vista...

Chad Harris said:
Steve--

If you are sure you have adequate space wherever you're putting Vista,
make
sure if there was an antivirus conflict that whichever one it was that
you
get it completely uninstalled. Add Remove often doesn't get many of the
files of any AV completely. Try downloading the WICU, the Windows
Installer
Cleanup Utility (you can google it) and find any entries for your AV and
highlight>enter.

Then you might want to go to the AV site and search a manual uninstall
(for
example Norton has tools for this and directions).

I can't imagine that this is an issue requiring any special drivers to be
loaded in setup because you've been able to do this before on the same
box.

CH


Steve said:
Chad thanks for all the suggestions but I already tried all the options
under
the Safe Mode options and none worked as as soon as Vista loads up to
the
main desktop screen it would go to bluescreen... No chance to do
anything...
Plus I have already removed Vista I re-installed XP Pro like 3 weeks
ago..
And just wanted to give Vista another try but wont let me install :'(

:

Steve--

I am recommending to try the F8 advanced options first, which means
to
try
each listing on the menu Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe
Mode
with Command, and then Last Known Good last there. One may work if
another
does not. The first 3 or used as a vehicle to do a system restore.
If
you
cannot use these, try Last Known Good Configuration. I used some XP
MSKB
articles as anxillary information in explaing F8 Windows Adv. Options
because they don't differ radically in step-wise although to be sure
Vista
System Restore is now based on Volume Shadow Services.

I don't use Safe Mode VGA for this. I have put every KB that contexts
these
options here for you to look at if you need to.

***Your first five options****
These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System
Restore
is based on a system now from server technology.

1) I'd use the F8 options including the 3 safe modes (I'm omitting VGA
for
this purpose) to try to system restore and I would use Last Known
Good
if
they don't work. I say 3 because sometimes one works when another will
not.
If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter 28
of
the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource
Kit.
The
MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but these
options are available in Vista and I want you to try them first:

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and
Vista]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308041&Product=winxp

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/


How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us

How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration
feature in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us


2) If these 4 options don't work, you can try a new way to fix Vista,
called
Startup Repair which is part of a platform in Vista called Windows
Repair
Environment or Win RE.

I'm going to tell you what it can do>going to give you the step by
step>
and you have no downside for trying it.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and
repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when
it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major
tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks
at
all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File
Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options
in
the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash
from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
________________________________________________

Good luck,

CH


no cause everytime it would bluescreen as soon as windows vista
started
so
couldnt get to add/remove programs... I even tried to boot in safe
mode
but
did it then too... So now trying to do a new fresh install of vista
but
wont
let me...

:

You did uninstall the virus program?

I had Vista installed on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop and was
working
fine
for several months with no problem then suddenly I installed a
Virus
Scanner
Program which Microsoft said was Vista complient but then I
immediately
got a
blue screen and everytime I restart and vista loads I keep
getting
the
blue
screen... Then when I go to attempt to Reinstall it now I get a
message
about
No Device Drivers... I didnt know what drivers it was referring
too
so
I
went
and downloaded both the drivers for Hard Drive and CD-Rom from
Dell
and
burned to CDs and then did LOAD DRIVERS but wont take that.. So
anyone
know
how I can get this re-installed?
 
G

Guest

Burned to DVD

Chad Harris said:
Steve what did you use to install Vista originally? You burned a DVD or used
one mailed from MSFT or mounted on VM ware? I'm wondering if there is any
way you can change those conditions?

CH

Steve said:
Well right now dont believe it has anything to do with AV seeing how I
formatted my entire harddrive... and wont let me install Vista...

Chad Harris said:
Steve--

If you are sure you have adequate space wherever you're putting Vista,
make
sure if there was an antivirus conflict that whichever one it was that
you
get it completely uninstalled. Add Remove often doesn't get many of the
files of any AV completely. Try downloading the WICU, the Windows
Installer
Cleanup Utility (you can google it) and find any entries for your AV and
highlight>enter.

Then you might want to go to the AV site and search a manual uninstall
(for
example Norton has tools for this and directions).

I can't imagine that this is an issue requiring any special drivers to be
loaded in setup because you've been able to do this before on the same
box.

CH


Chad thanks for all the suggestions but I already tried all the options
under
the Safe Mode options and none worked as as soon as Vista loads up to
the
main desktop screen it would go to bluescreen... No chance to do
anything...
Plus I have already removed Vista I re-installed XP Pro like 3 weeks
ago..
And just wanted to give Vista another try but wont let me install :'(

:

Steve--

I am recommending to try the F8 advanced options first, which means
to
try
each listing on the menu Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe
Mode
with Command, and then Last Known Good last there. One may work if
another
does not. The first 3 or used as a vehicle to do a system restore.
If
you
cannot use these, try Last Known Good Configuration. I used some XP
MSKB
articles as anxillary information in explaing F8 Windows Adv. Options
because they don't differ radically in step-wise although to be sure
Vista
System Restore is now based on Volume Shadow Services.

I don't use Safe Mode VGA for this. I have put every KB that contexts
these
options here for you to look at if you need to.

***Your first five options****
These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System
Restore
is based on a system now from server technology.

1) I'd use the F8 options including the 3 safe modes (I'm omitting VGA
for
this purpose) to try to system restore and I would use Last Known
Good
if
they don't work. I say 3 because sometimes one works when another will
not.
If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter 28
of
the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource
Kit.
The
MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but these
options are available in Vista and I want you to try them first:

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and
Vista]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308041&Product=winxp

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/


How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us

How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration
feature in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us


2) If these 4 options don't work, you can try a new way to fix Vista,
called
Startup Repair which is part of a platform in Vista called Windows
Repair
Environment or Win RE.

I'm going to tell you what it can do>going to give you the step by
step>
and you have no downside for trying it.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and
repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when
it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major
tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks
at
all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File
Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options
in
the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash
from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
________________________________________________

Good luck,

CH


no cause everytime it would bluescreen as soon as windows vista
started
so
couldnt get to add/remove programs... I even tried to boot in safe
mode
but
did it then too... So now trying to do a new fresh install of vista
but
wont
let me...

:

You did uninstall the virus program?

I had Vista installed on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop and was
working
fine
for several months with no problem then suddenly I installed a
Virus
Scanner
Program which Microsoft said was Vista complient but then I
immediately
got a
blue screen and everytime I restart and vista loads I keep
getting
the
blue
screen... Then when I go to attempt to Reinstall it now I get a
message
about
No Device Drivers... I didnt know what drivers it was referring
too
so
I
went
and downloaded both the drivers for Hard Drive and CD-Rom from
Dell
and
burned to CDs and then did LOAD DRIVERS but wont take that.. So
anyone
know
how I can get this re-installed?
 
C

Chad Harris

Try reburning.

Make sure when you reburn you do it from within XP and run the setup that
will show up on the XP desktop:

Reburn Option:

1) Burn slowly. 4X should be fine. Some of this probably varies with the
DVD writer and the media.

2) Make sure to select an ISO tab if there is one on the burning software,
and make sure to close the session on the burn.

3) Try this tweak on your Windows XP drive and burn from there:

Get to Dev Manager by typing devmgmt.msc in run/win key + pause break or
Rt.click My Computer>Prop>hardware tab>Device Manager if you like 5 steps
instead of one cmd. If you're set to PMI here change to DMO and if set to
DMO change to PMI using these 5 steps:

1) Click the + in front of IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers

2) Double Click the Secondary IDE Controller

3) Click Advanced Settings

4) Under Device 1  Next to Transfer Mode choose DMA (or vise versa)>Click
OK

5) Reboot your System

6) Check your burn with a CRC utility and the links for this are below
including the direct Taco Bell link. It is very classy, sophisticated, and
very Wagner Edstrom/McCann Ericson esque for MSFT to adopt a Taco Bell url
for their public Beta 2 CRC checker.

Obtain CRC Utility for Vista Beta 2 Here: (The CRC utility is a way to check
the integrity of the ISO Burn which is probably where your problem
lies--it's #1 on the list):

Here's a link:

The CRC utility for Beta 2 is contained here (Scroll down to the bottom
under "Additional Information"

Microsoft® Windows® Software Development Kit (SDK) for Beta 2 of Windows
Vista and WinFX Runtime Components
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...73-F5EA-4B7B-B022-97755838DB94&displaylang=en

Additional Information:

To verify that your download of an ISO file for the Windows SDK Beta 2 build
is not corrupt, download the CRC Utility. (Note: this is not a Microsoft
application. Use at your own risk.)

To run the CRC test, open a command prompt and run the utility. providing it
the name of the file (i.e. crc
c:\6.0.5383.1.1.WindowsSDK_Vista_idw.DVD.Rel.img) The CRC utility will run
two tests on the ISO: it will verify if the ISO is valid, and it will give
the AutoCRC signature for the file. The AutoCRC signature for the Windows
SDK Beta 2 ISO is 0x28434EEF. You should also confirm the size of the ISO is
correct: 1.14 GB (1,229,355,008 bytes).

If it fails any of these three tests, re-download the ISO.

I really like the direct link to it though if you right click CRC here>left
click Properties:
http://tacobell.iexbeta.com/longhorn/crc.exe

You may need to supply a hard drive contoller driver at the Load Drivers
button on the partition selection screen.

Good luck,

CH

Steve said:
Burned to DVD

Chad Harris said:
Steve what did you use to install Vista originally? You burned a DVD or
used
one mailed from MSFT or mounted on VM ware? I'm wondering if there is
any
way you can change those conditions?

CH

Steve said:
Well right now dont believe it has anything to do with AV seeing how I
formatted my entire harddrive... and wont let me install Vista...

:

Steve--

If you are sure you have adequate space wherever you're putting Vista,
make
sure if there was an antivirus conflict that whichever one it was that
you
get it completely uninstalled. Add Remove often doesn't get many of
the
files of any AV completely. Try downloading the WICU, the Windows
Installer
Cleanup Utility (you can google it) and find any entries for your AV
and
highlight>enter.

Then you might want to go to the AV site and search a manual uninstall
(for
example Norton has tools for this and directions).

I can't imagine that this is an issue requiring any special drivers to
be
loaded in setup because you've been able to do this before on the same
box.

CH


Chad thanks for all the suggestions but I already tried all the
options
under
the Safe Mode options and none worked as as soon as Vista loads up
to
the
main desktop screen it would go to bluescreen... No chance to do
anything...
Plus I have already removed Vista I re-installed XP Pro like 3
weeks
ago..
And just wanted to give Vista another try but wont let me install
:'(

:

Steve--

I am recommending to try the F8 advanced options first, which
means
to
try
each listing on the menu Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe
Mode
with Command, and then Last Known Good last there. One may work if
another
does not. The first 3 or used as a vehicle to do a system restore.
If
you
cannot use these, try Last Known Good Configuration. I used some
XP
MSKB
articles as anxillary information in explaing F8 Windows Adv.
Options
because they don't differ radically in step-wise although to be
sure
Vista
System Restore is now based on Volume Shadow Services.

I don't use Safe Mode VGA for this. I have put every KB that
contexts
these
options here for you to look at if you need to.

***Your first five options****
These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System
Restore
is based on a system now from server technology.

1) I'd use the F8 options including the 3 safe modes (I'm omitting
VGA
for
this purpose) to try to system restore and I would use Last Known
Good
if
they don't work. I say 3 because sometimes one works when another
will
not.
If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter
28
of
the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource
Kit.
The
MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but
these
options are available in Vista and I want you to try them first:

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and
Vista]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308041&Product=winxp

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/


How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us

How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good
Configuration
feature in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us


2) If these 4 options don't work, you can try a new way to fix
Vista,
called
Startup Repair which is part of a platform in Vista called Windows
Repair
Environment or Win RE.

I'm going to tell you what it can do>going to give you the step by
step>
and you have no downside for trying it.

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check
and
repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually
when
it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of
major
tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it
looks
at
all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File
Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang.
options
in
the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash
from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
________________________________________________

Good luck,

CH


no cause everytime it would bluescreen as soon as windows vista
started
so
couldnt get to add/remove programs... I even tried to boot in
safe
mode
but
did it then too... So now trying to do a new fresh install of
vista
but
wont
let me...

:

You did uninstall the virus program?

I had Vista installed on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop and was
working
fine
for several months with no problem then suddenly I installed a
Virus
Scanner
Program which Microsoft said was Vista complient but then I
immediately
got a
blue screen and everytime I restart and vista loads I keep
getting
the
blue
screen... Then when I go to attempt to Reinstall it now I get
a
message
about
No Device Drivers... I didnt know what drivers it was
referring
too
so
I
went
and downloaded both the drivers for Hard Drive and CD-Rom from
Dell
and
burned to CDs and then did LOAD DRIVERS but wont take that..
So
anyone
know
how I can get this re-installed?
 

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