Transitions in MM2 cause audio stutter when exporting to DV camcorder

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Psychoman

I'm stumped on this. I have an Athlon 64 3000+ rig with
512 ram, 120 gig hd. I create projects on MM2, export
via firewire to Panasonic PV-DV203 dv camcorder, then
import via firewire from camcorder to my Panasonic DMR-
E100H stand alone burner. Unfortunately, despite solid
equipment, I can not export a smooth copy of my project
(which are usually photo montages for anniversaries with
music in background) from computer to camcorder. If I
remove all transtions, then Presto, it exports
flawlessly. Add transitions back into same project, and
export causes stuttering to audio.

The process works w/o the transitions, and stutters when
I add transitions. It shouldn't be a resource prob as my
computer is capable and only 1 month old. Any
ideas????????????
 
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Alan Parker

Psychoman said:
I'm stumped on this. I have an Athlon 64 3000+ rig with
512 ram, 120 gig hd. I create projects on MM2, export
via firewire to Panasonic PV-DV203 dv camcorder, then
import via firewire from camcorder to my Panasonic DMR-
E100H stand alone burner. Unfortunately, despite solid
equipment, I can not export a smooth copy of my project
(which are usually photo montages for anniversaries with
music in background) from computer to camcorder. If I
remove all transtions, then Presto, it exports
flawlessly. Add transitions back into same project, and
export causes stuttering to audio.

The process works w/o the transitions, and stutters when
I add transitions. It shouldn't be a resource prob as my
computer is capable and only 1 month old. Any
ideas????????????

How about if you save the movie as a dv-avi to the hard drive and watch it?
Does it stutter then?
If not, then do that and use WinDV to save it to the camera instead. As with
all suggestions, let us know if it works, then we can all make mental notes!

Better still, buy the longest cable you can and export straight to the
recorder (if the above works)
 
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Psychoman

-----Original Message-----


How about if you save the movie as a dv-avi to the hard drive and watch it?
Does it stutter then?
If not, then do that and use WinDV to save it to the camera instead. As with
all suggestions, let us know if it works, then we can all make mental notes!

Better still, buy the longest cable you can and export straight to the
recorder (if the above works)


.
The Panasonic DMR-E100H will only capture from a dv
camcorder, and does not recognize a computer connection
(I've tried). However, I will try saving to hard drive
first (although I recall attempting this before). I have
never used WinDV. I will keep you posted.
 
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Guest

I agree with Ron Parker's comments. Exporting to your
camcorder is a "real time" process. Saving to DV-AVI can
be done in parallel with other tasks in background.

Transitions consume processor resources. You may have to
shut off background tasks, including disconnecting from
your network, during export to your camcorder to avoid
stuttering. Best bet is to save as DV-AVI, then use
WinDV to transfer to your camcorder.

Hope this helps.

Dave
 
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Tom Clawges

I have a slide show I am putting together with some MP3's
running in the background. I have the same problem just
saving the movie in DV-AVI format to my hard drive. I can
view the finished movie on my hard drive and the music
stutters. If I take the transitions out (thanks to your
idea) and export again, my movie runs with smooth playing
music. My system is only a P3 1Ghz but it easily meets
the minimum requirements. I would be curious if anyone
else has any suggestions.

Thanks!

Tom
 
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Alan Parker

Tom Clawges said:
I have a slide show I am putting together with some MP3's
running in the background. I have the same problem just
saving the movie in DV-AVI format to my hard drive. I can
view the finished movie on my hard drive and the music
stutters. If I take the transitions out (thanks to your
idea) and export again, my movie runs with smooth playing
music. My system is only a P3 1Ghz but it easily meets
the minimum requirements. I would be curious if anyone
else has any suggestions.

Hmm...if it wasn't JUST during the transitions, I'd say try a defrag.
Actually, it can't hurt!
Download something called "Raxco Perfectdisk" (30 day trial) - it's the only
thing I know of that can defrag the mbr, swap file etc.
It runs after a reboot (you CAN run it online, but it's not so effective)
and for a badly fragmented disk can take several hours.
However, it's always a good thing to do, and at least you will have
eliminated that. Note that XPs defrag does not do a good job, and struggles
to defragment large files when low on space.

Something I just thought of - save the move again and play it back. Then
immediately, from the START>RUN menu type
eventvwr
and look through the app and system logs for the last few minutes. Anything
in there relevant? Just a thought.
Now you come to mention all this, I do remember the same happening to me
when saving a dv-avi to disk. But I rebooted and immediately did it again
and it didn't stutter.
 
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PhD

Hi,
I had exactly the same problem when exporting complex
videos to the DV camera (by complexe, i mean a 26'
duration, with tens of different sequences with
transitions, titles, music and audio tracks).
The preview was ok on mm2, but when exporting the AVI-DV
movie (on hardrive or DV Camera), each transition
generated stuttering to audio track.

The only solution i found, was to :
1- export the AVI-DV movie on my hard drive with
transitions but without audio traks (no stutter because no
audio),
2- create a new MM2 project
3- import the AVI DV movie created in step 1
4- add audio and music tracks
5- export the resulting AVI DV movie on the hard drive or
directly to the camera (Sony PC120)

In this way, there is no more transition on the project on
step 4 and 5 because there is just one AVI DV sequence on
the video track, so no transition means no stutter when
exporting.

Hope it helps...

PhD
 
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Tom Clawges

Great tip! I'll give it a shot, and post how it turns
out. Alan, I'll try your suggestion if this doesn't work.
But I did try a reboot, and purged out all background
tasks before saving the movie and it didn't make a
difference.

Tom
 
G

Guest

-----Original Message-----
Hi,
I had exactly the same problem when exporting complex
videos to the DV camera (by complexe, i mean a 26'
duration, with tens of different sequences with
transitions, titles, music and audio tracks).
The preview was ok on mm2, but when exporting the AVI-DV
movie (on hardrive or DV Camera), each transition
generated stuttering to audio track.

The only solution i found, was to :
1- export the AVI-DV movie on my hard drive with
transitions but without audio traks (no stutter because no
audio),
2- create a new MM2 project
3- import the AVI DV movie created in step 1
4- add audio and music tracks
5- export the resulting AVI DV movie on the hard drive or
directly to the camera (Sony PC120)

In this way, there is no more transition on the project on
step 4 and 5 because there is just one AVI DV sequence on
the video track, so no transition means no stutter when
exporting.

Hope it helps...

PhD

Sigh,

Well, I followed your steps, but a new problem arose. I
create the files as you outline, but during export, which
plays smoothly to point, Movie Maker 2 stops after about
3 to 5 min into export. Camera captures the first 3-5
min as well and continues to record blank thereafter. I
did same step but used WinDV, same result. I'm really
starting to get frustrated with the transition problem.
I can't seem to get around it??? HELP!
 
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Tom Clawges

That did the trick! I did a test sequence of about 2
dozen images with fade transitions and no music, saved as
DV-AVI. Then created a new project, imported the clip,
added music, and saved again as DV-AVI. This process was
fairly quick. The final clip played flawlessly.

My plan: create the entire show as originally planned so
I can adjust the music length and number of images to
what I want, then delete the music, and follow the
previous steps. I hate workarounds, but hey, I can now
get the project completed. Thanks again for the tip.

Tom
 
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John Kelly

Hi there,

Your problem may be caused by a codec that Movie Maker does not like. This
a very common issue.

Your one-stop-don't-need-to-look-anywhere-else Solution is with a program
called "Rename Codecs".

Instead of reading miles of dross that is full of maybe's and perhaps's
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codecs that cause this problem and gives you the opportunity of renaming
them, or, you can now use the new Auto feature in version 1.5 and let the
program take care of virtually everything to do with this problem

You can then run Movie Maker and immediately determine if it actually was a
codec issue. If it was a codec issue Movie Maker will now run properly. If
it was not the issue, you have lost nothing more than a short amount of
time.

Whether or not it was a codec issue you must run the program once more and
restore the problem codecs to their original names.

The two procedures together can take less time than it did to read this
message and a whole lot less than reading mountains of bumph that may or
may not apply to you.

The program "Rename Codecs" is free and available from my website.

While there it would be a good idea to check out the tutorial on how to run
the program...that will take around one minute of your time!!! Use this
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--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
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www.the-kellys.co.uk
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