To many exe. processess running

G

Guest

I have a windows xp based computor which is fairly new.I currently want to
use a rendering program in a painting utility which is also new.My task
manager tells me I have 30 exe. processes running, some relate to Norton
security, but this is on"tick-over" ie startup, most are labelled as system
but I have
34,504 kb in constant use by 3 or more svchost exe. network processes. I do
not connect to a net work and never will. How do I get rid of these?
The current usage of system alone is 198m of 3250m on a 2% full hard drive.
I need all the available memory I can get for the rendering prog.Many
thanks, John
 
M

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

John

We all have multiple processes running or waiting to run on command..
shutting down these processes may result in compromising your own security
or nothing at all..

Graphics programs require BIG memory.. you should be looking to run at least
1.0Gb RAM, preferably more.. I have a feeling that shutting down every
process in your computer would not make up the difference between the above
and what you have presently installed..
 
G

Guest

Hi Mike, what usually happens is I disconnect from the internet and try to
close as much as possable before the renderer starts. When I do this, it
works well it requires 128mb RAM minimum, 256mb recomended.Average of 4
minuits on a 60mb pz3 file. I only had this computor in August, then only 18
processes were running, I want to reduce the things I never use, eg games,
message services, networking.It worked fine on 18, on 30 I have things I
would never need.
 
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gls858

john said:
I have a windows xp based computor which is fairly new.I currently want to
use a rendering program in a painting utility which is also new.My task
manager tells me I have 30 exe. processes running, some relate to Norton
security, but this is on"tick-over" ie startup, most are labelled as system
but I have
34,504 kb in constant use by 3 or more svchost exe. network processes. I do
not connect to a net work and never will. How do I get rid of these?
The current usage of system alone is 198m of 3250m on a 2% full hard drive.
I need all the available memory I can get for the rendering prog.Many
thanks, John

Not sure how much time you want to spend researching the different
processes, but here's a link to a site will explain all of the processes
and which can be safely disabled. Look for the heading Popular Content

http://web.archive.org/web/20041123023608/www.blackviper.com/index.html

Take note that this is coming from an archive. The actual site says that
it's currently under construction.

gls858
 
J

Jim

john said:
I have a windows xp based computor which is fairly new.I currently want to
use a rendering program in a painting utility which is also new.My task
manager tells me I have 30 exe. processes running, some relate to Norton
Only 30? Gee my systems has 44 or so. However, only one of them is ever in
control of the cpu at any given time. Moreover, most only execute when they
have work to do.
security, but this is on"tick-over" ie startup, most are labelled as
system
but I have
34,504 kb in constant use by 3 or more svchost exe. network processes. I
do
not connect to a net work and never will. How do I get rid of these?
The current usage of system alone is 198m of 3250m on a 2% full hard
drive.
I need all the available memory I can get for the rendering prog.Many
thanks, John
34MB out of how many? The usual method for solving memory shortages is to
install more. Memory is so cheap these days.
I would also wonder about the size of the pagefile. It is best to let the
system manage the size of the pagefile.
In dire cases of shortage of RAM, the system can send entire programs to the
pagefile.
Jim
 
G

Guest

Thank you for the ideas, I think the best one is to get more memory.Most of
the users I know with paint progs have purpose built pcs, and IT backup,
they are not doing it as recreation. Its a good idea to be familiar with the
usage and meaning of all these .EXE files though. I will take a look, thanks
again, John
 
M

Mak

I think you misunderstand something here.
WinXP is demand page OS. It uses memory dynamically depanding on demand.
Processes do no 'think' (nor they can use RAM directly) in terms of RAM,
they use virtual address space.
Every process is guaranteed 2GB (default, 32-bit) of v.a.s., no matter how
much RAM is installed.
Examine the following for one of the svhosts:
In Perfmon (compare to TM), process object:

Perfmon Task Manager
Private bytes VM size
Virtual bytes doesn't show
Working set mem usage

Private bytes (VM size) = process' contribution to commit charge
Virtual bytes = total address space of the process
Working set (mem usage) = what is accessible to the process without
incurring a page fault.

When your running rendering application makes enough demand (high page fault
rate), Windows will trim other processes and make room for your application;
in other words, no demand - Windows will keep as much as it can in RAM,
rendering application process demands more - Windows will make other
processes to page out (if there is no space in RAM), or, yet in other
words - 34,504 KB (btw, what column of TM you see this in?) is in use,
because your computer can afford it ATM.
 

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