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[Joe]

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that they'll be
embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my son's teachers
ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted
in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board
of governors about this, stating for the record that I will deliberately
NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that any work they do
WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work they do will be saved in
open formats such as [X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC
audio, and divx+AC3 video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same
as me at school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that
nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open
formats last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the
company who hold the patent.

I see your point, though I don't think it is a good example here. After
seven years with an Arc, I moved to Windows 95. I hadn't even seen Win 3
at that point, I met it later. I'm quite sure I had an easier migration
to Win 95 than Win 3 users did. RiscOS was comparable to Win 95 in
operation, and far ahead of Win 3 in most areas.

People said at the time that children should be taught on the industry
standard OS, not some one-source oddity. But I remember saying that when
the children left school, in three or five or ten years, the industry
standard wasn't going to be Windows 3, or more likely in most schools,
DOS and Quarterdeck. On the whole, it wasn't.

I'm still waiting for Windows (or Linux!) applications to show me the
printable area of documents. Even Arthur did that, in 1988, pre-RiscOS.
And it took me a long time to get used to Word's limitations after
Impression. Remind me again, which open source WPs were running on
affordable hardware in 1990?

 

[Jim]

Joe wrote:

Impression. Remind me again, which open source WPs were running on
affordable hardware in 1990?

wait... there was affordable hardware in 1990??

j/k... I have a veritable museum of hardware I've been collecting for
the past 24 years. Everything from BBC Model A, Commodore 16+, Sinclair
Spectrum 128+, +2, +3, 48K, C64, Amiga 500+...

not that any of it was cheap...

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[ray]

1) I have no problem if they dual boot. MS has it's place - just not
online.

2) if they have to run MS software, they are going to have to pay to have
someone fix it - I won't do it.

3) there are a decent number of educational software products that run on
Linux.

My point is that I'm not going to fix friend's MS problems. It's a
never-ending headache. If they want to set up Linux, I'm glad to help, and
I'll do it for free. I've installed Mandrake 10.1 on the public access
internet computers at the local library, and I do updates and installs -
all for free.

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that they'll be
embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my son's teachers
ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted
in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board
of governors about this, stating for the record that I will deliberately
NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that any work they do
WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work they do will be saved in
open formats such as [X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC
audio, and divx+AC3 video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same
as me at school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that
nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open
formats last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the
company who hold the patent.

Of course, OpenOffice and Abiword can produce MS Word doc output. I always
encourage people to use RTF (Rich Text Format) as it will do what is
needed and be readable/writeable on most platforms.

Why people insist on making technical decisions when they do not have the
technical information, is beyond me.

 

[ray]

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that they'll be
embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my son's teachers
ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted
in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board
of governors about this, stating for the record that I will deliberately
NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that any work they do
WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work they do will be saved in
open formats such as [X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC
audio, and divx+AC3 video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same
as me at school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that
nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open
formats last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the
company who hold the patent.

I see your point, though I don't think it is a good example here. After
seven years with an Arc, I moved to Windows 95. I hadn't even seen Win 3
at that point, I met it later. I'm quite sure I had an easier migration
to Win 95 than Win 3 users did. RiscOS was comparable to Win 95 in
operation, and far ahead of Win 3 in most areas.

People said at the time that children should be taught on the industry
standard OS, not some one-source oddity. But I remember saying that when
the children left school, in three or five or ten years, the industry
standard wasn't going to be Windows 3, or more likely in most schools,
DOS and Quarterdeck. On the whole, it wasn't.

I'm still waiting for Windows (or Linux!) applications to show me the
printable area of documents. Even Arthur did that, in 1988, pre-RiscOS.
And it took me a long time to get used to Word's limitations after
Impression. Remind me again, which open source WPs were running on
affordable hardware in 1990?

I seem to recall that in that time frame Compute! magazine had a word
processor which was available for most of the platforms that were readily
available. There were versions for C-64, Atari, Apple, and even for
MS-DOS. It was available to be typed in or could be secured on media
(usually floppy or tape).

 

[Joe]

Joe wrote:



wait... there was affordable hardware in 1990??

j/k... I have a veritable museum of hardware I've been collecting for
the past 24 years. Everything from BBC Model A, Commodore 16+, Sinclair
Spectrum 128+, +2, +3, 48K, C64, Amiga 500+...

not that any of it was cheap...

Affordable as distinct from minicomputer or mainframe. In 1989 the
Archimedes was comparable in price to a 386/16 or thereabouts, and
a whisker faster. Briefly the fastest PC.

 

[Jim]

Affordable as distinct from minicomputer or mainframe. In 1989 the
Archimedes was comparable in price to a 386/16 or thereabouts, and
a whisker faster. Briefly the fastest PC.

RISC OS 3.1 was a lovely UI. I miss it.

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[flatfish]

Of course, OpenOffice and Abiword can produce MS Word doc output. I always
encourage people to use RTF (Rich Text Format) as it will do what is
needed and be readable/writeable on most platforms.

Why people insist on making technical decisions when they do not have the
technical information, is beyond me.

Great in theory, terrible in practice.
I have 3 kids in college and every single one of them, 3 different
Universities BTW, have been told it's MsOffice *.doc or nothing.
One uses a Mac, with Office and even SHE had a couple of problems with
some tables not translating properly to the Windows version.
Do I agree with this?
Of course not, but, I have 3 kids with 4.0 GPA's and 2 out of 3 with full
scholarships so why make troubles!
When my daughters graduate and become lawyers maybe they will argue the
point.
When my son graduates and becomes a Physicist he can figure it out for
himself.
They all hate Windows BTW and my son uses Linux and OpenOffice.

There comes a time where the flag waving gets put aside and common sense
kicks into gear.
I see idiots like the COLA gang all the time at airports when I travel and
I travel a lot.
They harass the gate agent, the flight attendents and anyone in their path
and then they wonder why they don't get comp drinks, get the worst seats
on the plane and have their luggage sent to Alaska when they were going to
Nebraska.
Trying to make a point, even if technically you are right, has it's place
but then again there are some places where keeping ones mouth shut is the
smart thing to do.
flatfish+++

 

[Tim Smith]

PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that they'll be
embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my son's teachers
ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted
in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board
of governors about this, stating for the record that I will deliberately
NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that any work they do
WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work they do will be saved in
open formats such as [X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC
audio, and divx+AC3 video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same
as me at school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that
nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open
formats last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the
company who hold the patent.

(1) You are incorrect that nobody in the Real World[TM] uses those
formats. Indeed, the fact that they are used all over the Real World is
one of the more common complaints in COLA.

(2) You aren't considering the document's lifetime. That's the relevant
lifetime, rather than the lifetime of the creator of the format. A
format for delivery of school work only has to stay viable long enough
for the teacher to read it and record the grade. It is a pretty safe
bet that Microsoft will be around that long.

If you want to keep a copy of the documents yourself for longer than the
school year, save a copy in a format that you think will last, such as
RTF, in addition to the copy delivered to the teacher.

 

[Douglas O'Neal]

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that they'll be
embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my son's teachers
ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted
in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board
of governors about this, stating for the record that I will deliberately
NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that any work they do
WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work they do will be saved in
open formats such as [X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC
audio, and divx+AC3 video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same
as me at school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that
nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open
formats last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the
company who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc extension. Best
bet is that the teacher will never know you're not working in a microsoft
environment.

 

[Rebecca]

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that
they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my
son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done
on a PC be formatted in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at
the teachers and the board of governors about this, stating for the
record that I will deliberately NOT allow my children to use
Microsoft Office, that any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft
Office, that any work they do will be saved in open formats such as
[X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3
video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at
school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that nobody
in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open formats
last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the company
who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're not
working in a microsoft environment.

You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.

 

[Jim]

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that
they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my
son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done
on a PC be formatted in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at
the teachers and the board of governors about this, stating for the
record that I will deliberately NOT allow my children to use
Microsoft Office, that any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft
Office, that any work they do will be saved in open formats such as
[X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3
video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at
school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that nobody
in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open formats
last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the company
who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're not
working in a microsoft environment.

You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.

no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me to
discover functionality I never knew existed.

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[Rebecca]

Jim wrote:

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving
to PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that
they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my
son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done
on a PC be formatted in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at
the teachers and the board of governors about this, stating for the
record that I will deliberately NOT allow my children to use
Microsoft Office, that any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft
Office, that any work they do will be saved in open formats such as
[X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3
video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at
school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that
nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open
formats last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the
company who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're not
working in a microsoft environment.

You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.

no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me to
discover functionality I never knew existed.

Not likely:

groups Results 1 - 10 of 6,040 for "linux makes you stupid".

groups Results 1 - 10 of 154 for "windows makes you stupid".


More likely, linux made you so ****ing stupid that you think everything you
encounter is 'new' and you learned something.

 

[Dick Sutton]

Jim wrote:

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that
they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my
son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done
on a PC be formatted in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at
the teachers and the board of governors about this, stating for the
record that I will deliberately NOT allow my children to use
Microsoft Office, that any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft
Office, that any work they do will be saved in open formats such as
[X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3
video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at
school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that nobody
in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open formats
last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the company
who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're not
working in a microsoft environment.

You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.

no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me to
discover functionality I never knew existed.

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Jim

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Then, if your a linux user, why are you wasting time on this board?

 

[Jim]

Douglas O'Neal wrote:


Jim wrote:


What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving
to PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that
they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my
son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done
on a PC be formatted in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at
the teachers and the board of governors about this, stating for the
record that I will deliberately NOT allow my children to use
Microsoft Office, that any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft
Office, that any work they do will be saved in open formats such as
[X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3
video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at
school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that
nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open
formats last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the
company who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're not
working in a microsoft environment.


You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.

no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me to
discover functionality I never knew existed.

Not likely:

groups Results 1 - 10 of 6,040 for "linux makes you stupid".

groups Results 1 - 10 of 154 for "windows makes you stupid".


More likely, linux made you so ****ing stupid that you think everything you
encounter is 'new' and you learned something.

shows what /you/ know about /me/. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Bupkiss. Stop
making baseless assumptions.

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[ray]

Great in theory, terrible in practice.
I have 3 kids in college and every single one of them, 3 different
Universities BTW, have been told it's MsOffice *.doc or nothing.
One uses a Mac, with Office and even SHE had a couple of problems with
some tables not translating properly to the Windows version.
Do I agree with this?
Of course not, but, I have 3 kids with 4.0 GPA's and 2 out of 3 with full
scholarships so why make troubles!
When my daughters graduate and become lawyers maybe they will argue the
point.
When my son graduates and becomes a Physicist he can figure it out for
himself.
They all hate Windows BTW and my son uses Linux and OpenOffice.

There comes a time where the flag waving gets put aside and common sense
kicks into gear.
I see idiots like the COLA gang all the time at airports when I travel and
I travel a lot.
They harass the gate agent, the flight attendents and anyone in their path
and then they wonder why they don't get comp drinks, get the worst seats
on the plane and have their luggage sent to Alaska when they were going to
Nebraska.
Trying to make a point, even if technically you are right, has it's place
but then again there are some places where keeping ones mouth shut is the
smart thing to do.
flatfish+++

For starters, there is absolutely no reason to require MSOFFICE .doc
format. I can see requiring a document that can be read by MSOFFICE - but
that is as far as it should ever go.

 

[Rebecca]

Douglas O'Neal wrote:

Jim wrote:

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since
moving to PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again
stated that they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and
applications. YET my son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work
typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted in native
Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board of
governors about this, stating for the record that I will
deliberately NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that
any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work
they do will be saved in open formats such as [X]HTML, rich text,
png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3 video. No way in
hell my boys are suffering the same as me at school; that is,
locked into a single proprietery format that nobody in the Real
World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open formats last
forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the company who
hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're not
working in a microsoft environment.


You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.

no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me to
discover functionality I never knew existed.

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Jim

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Then, if your a linux user, why are you wasting time on this board?

linux has made him so ****ing stupid that he doesn't even know where he is.

 

[Rebecca]

Rebecca wrote:

Douglas O'Neal wrote:


Jim wrote:


What annoys me is that our local education authority, since
moving to PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again
stated that they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and
applications. YET my son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work
typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted in native
Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board of
governors about this, stating for the record that I will
deliberately NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that
any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work
they do will be saved in open formats such as [X]HTML, rich
text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3 video. No
way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at school; that
is, locked into a single proprietery format that nobody in the
Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open formats last
forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the company
who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're
not working in a microsoft environment.


You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.



no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me
to discover functionality I never knew existed.

Not likely:

groups Results 1 - 10 of 6,040 for "linux makes you stupid".

groups Results 1 - 10 of 154 for "windows makes you stupid".


More likely, linux made you so ****ing stupid that you think
everything you encounter is 'new' and you learned something.

shows what /you/ know about /me/. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Bupkiss. Stop
making baseless assumptions.

There's no assumption, linux makes you ****ing stupid. Fact. It makes you
gay too.

 

[Jim]

Jim wrote:


Rebecca wrote:


Douglas O'Neal wrote:



Jim wrote:



What annoys me is that our local education authority, since
moving to PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again
stated that they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and
applications. YET my son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work
typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted in native
Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board of
governors about this, stating for the record that I will
deliberately NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office, that
any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that any work
they do will be saved in open formats such as [X]HTML, rich
text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3 video. No
way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at school; that
is, locked into a single proprietery format that nobody in the
Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open formats last
forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the company
who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're
not working in a microsoft environment.


You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.



no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me
to discover functionality I never knew existed.



Not likely:

groups Results 1 - 10 of 6,040 for "linux makes you stupid".

groups Results 1 - 10 of 154 for "windows makes you stupid".


More likely, linux made you so ****ing stupid that you think
everything you encounter is 'new' and you learned something.

shows what /you/ know about /me/. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Bupkiss. Stop
making baseless assumptions.

There's no assumption, linux makes you ****ing stupid. Fact. It makes you
gay too.

well, **** me sideways. Better tell the wife I'm gay. That's not gonna
please her.

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[Douglas O'Neal]

Jim wrote:

What annoys me is that our local education authority, since moving to
PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again stated that
they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and applications. YET my
son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work typed up or otherwise done
on a PC be formatted in native Microsoft Office. I've had a go at
the teachers and the board of governors about this, stating for the
record that I will deliberately NOT allow my children to use
Microsoft Office, that any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft
Office, that any work they do will be saved in open formats such as
[X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and divx+AC3
video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same as me at
school; that is, locked into a single proprietery format that nobody
in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it was Acorn). Open formats
last forever, proprietery formats last the lifetime of the company
who hold the patent.


So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're not
working in a microsoft environment.

You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.

no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me to
discover functionality I never knew existed.

Let's see....
He creates a rich-text document with the extension of .doc. He knows that
it was created with a non-microsoft product and in a standard format. He
gives that document to another person who uses office to open the document.
The second person never figures out that what they thought was a word file
wasn't even though they have the requirement that the file be in word
format. I'd say it was the second person who was a little slow on the
uptake since they put in a policy that isn't enforced and violations are not
noted.

 

[Mhzjunkie]

Jim spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself:

Rebecca wrote:

Jim wrote:


Rebecca wrote:


Douglas O'Neal wrote:



Jim wrote:



What annoys me is that our local education authority, since
moving to PCs from Archimedes networks, have time and again
stated that they'll be embracing open sourse platforms and
applications. YET my son's teachers ALL INSIST that any work
typed up or otherwise done on a PC be formatted in native
Microsoft Office. I've had a go at the teachers and the board
of governors about this, stating for the record that I will
deliberately NOT allow my children to use Microsoft Office,
that any work they do WILL NOT TOUCH Microsoft Office, that
any work they do will be saved in open formats such as
[X]HTML, rich text, png graphics, SHN or FLAC audio, and
divx+AC3 video. No way in hell my boys are suffering the same
as me at school; that is, locked into a single proprietery
format that nobody in the Real World[TM] uses (in my case it
was Acorn). Open formats last forever, proprietery formats
last the lifetime of the company who hold the patent.

So save your work-processing files in rich text with a .doc
extension. Best bet is that the teacher will never know you're
not working in a microsoft environment.


You know why he didn't think of that?

linux made him ****ing stupid.



no, actually, Windows made me ****ing stupid. Linux is allowing me
to discover functionality I never knew existed.



Not likely:

groups Results 1 - 10 of 6,040 for "linux makes you stupid".

groups Results 1 - 10 of 154 for "windows makes you stupid".


More likely, linux made you so ****ing stupid that you think
everything you encounter is 'new' and you learned something.



shows what /you/ know about /me/. Zero. Nothing. Nada. Bupkiss. Stop
making baseless assumptions.

There's no assumption, linux makes you ****ing stupid. Fact. It
makes you gay too.

well, **** me sideways. Better tell the wife I'm gay. That's not gonna
please her.

No, and she'll get an infection for all the shit flakes.

--
Mhzjunkie

1 PRINT "Windows XP ERROR"
GOTO 1
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