Three Day Activation

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Alias

Well, I decided to install a video card and uninstall my onboard video card.
I also decided to connect my hard drive to the same place as the CD ROM,
making the hard drive the master and the CD ROM the slave. Doesn't sound
like a whole lot had changed. But, lo and behold, when I have them all
installed, I reboot and get the dreaded three day or you're f*cxked message.
Fortunately, I was able to activate online but why did this happen?

Alias
 
You made some significant changes to your hardware.
How long did it take you to reactivate....10 seconds?

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| Well, I decided to install a video card and uninstall my onboard video card.
| I also decided to connect my hard drive to the same place as the CD ROM,
| making the hard drive the master and the CD ROM the slave. Doesn't sound
| like a whole lot had changed. But, lo and behold, when I have them all
| installed, I reboot and get the dreaded three day or you're f*cxked message.
| Fortunately, I was able to activate online but why did this happen?
|
| Alias
 
Carey Frisch said:
You made some significant changes to your hardware.
How long did it take you to reactivate....10 seconds?

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups
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All I changed was the video card. That's significant? I didn't time how long
it took but it wasn't long once I told it twice that I didn't want to
register the licence. The time it took is irrevelant. I want to know why
changing just the video card activated the activation process. All of the
rest of the hardware is exactly the same as it was before.

I can hardly wait for Validation. It seems to me that MS should go after the
pirates, not make the PAYING CUSTOMER do the job for them unless, of course,
we agree to it and get PAID for doing it!

Alias
 
You'll have to contact Microsoft and ask them.
No one else can tell you how the Microsoft activation
servers are programmed and why you were prompted to
reactivate due to your hardware changes.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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| All I changed was the video card. That's significant? I didn't time how long
| it took but it wasn't long once I told it twice that I didn't want to
| register the licence. The time it took is irrevelant. I want to know why
| changing just the video card activated the activation process. All of the
| rest of the hardware is exactly the same as it was before.
|
| I can hardly wait for Validation. It seems to me that MS should go after the
| pirates, not make the PAYING CUSTOMER do the job for them unless, of course,
| we agree to it and get PAID for doing it!
|
| Alias
 
I got the same 3 day warning the other day, the only change
that I have made to my computer since it was built and
activated are zero, non, nadda. I did have a Trojan
detected and removed though. I think one of the files must
have bee tied to the activation record. It did activate
normally again on the dial up number.


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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


message | You made some significant changes to your hardware.
| How long did it take you to reactivate....10 seconds?
|
| --
| Carey Frisch
| Microsoft MVP
| Windows XP - Shell/User
| Microsoft Newsgroups
|
| Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security
Technologies:
|
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
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| "Alias" wrote:
|
|| Well, I decided to install a video card and uninstall my
onboard video card.
|| I also decided to connect my hard drive to the same place
as the CD ROM,
|| making the hard drive the master and the CD ROM the
slave. Doesn't sound
|| like a whole lot had changed. But, lo and behold, when I
have them all
|| installed, I reboot and get the dreaded three day or
you're f*cxked message.
|| Fortunately, I was able to activate online but why did
this happen?
||
|| Alias
|
 
Carey said:
You'll have to contact Microsoft and ask them.
No one else can tell you how the Microsoft activation
servers are programmed and why you were prompted to
reactivate due to your hardware changes.
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Except that he was prompted to reactivated within three days, BEFORE he
ever connected to MS's Activation server. The count of hardware changes
if kept locally, on Alias's computer. When connecting to the activation
server, he was activated.

Figures Carey is TOO F*#king STUPID to know how activation works!

http://microscum.com/carey/

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Kurt
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
Alias said:
Well, I decided to install a video card and uninstall my onboard
video card. I also decided to connect my hard drive to the same place
as the CD ROM, making the hard drive the master and the CD ROM the
slave. Doesn't sound like a whole lot had changed. But, lo and
behold, when I have them all installed, I reboot and get the dreaded
three day or you're f*cxked message. Fortunately, I was able to
activate online but why did this happen?
Click to expand...

Activation changes are cumulative, so if you any change since you last
activated the present install on your computer, those would be changes
count too.

But MANY people have reported that activation doesn't work they way it
is supposed to. Driver changes and BIOS flashes have caused
reactivation.

People have already had problems with validation in its voluntary state.
When it goes prime time, it is gonna cause havoc, as people will be
blocked from getting security updates, so they'll be vulnerable longer
to cyber-terrorists!

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
Well, I decided to install a video card and uninstall my onboard video card.
I also decided to connect my hard drive to the same place as the CD ROM,
making the hard drive the master and the CD ROM the slave. Doesn't sound
like a whole lot had changed. But, lo and behold, when I have them all
installed, I reboot and get the dreaded three day or you're f*cxked message.
Fortunately, I was able to activate online but why did this happen?
Click to expand...

Alias - I've managed a BUNCH of machines over the last couple years and
have never seen where it asked for reactivation after changing a single
(meaning one) part unless it was the motherboard. The hash that it keeps
on the computer does not reset each time it reboots, so that means if you
change a hard-drive this month, then add RAM next month, then change the
CD-ROM a few months later, then come back and change the Video card a year
from that point, it's going to ask you to reactivate. It doesn't make any
difference as to the time, only to the number of changes and how it
compares to the hash that is generated at the time of the last activation,
which has nothing to do with the hash that MS records when you activate.
 
You'll have to contact Microsoft and ask them. No one else can tell you
how the Microsoft activation servers are programmed and why you were
prompted to reactivate due to your hardware changes.
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Carey, I think you will find that it has nothing to do with Activation
Servers tracking it, more than it has to do with the local copy of the
machine configuration hash that is stored at the time of activation. You
can make changes until it caused enough of a change in the hash so that it
requires reactivation - which has nothing to do with contacting MS, the
hash for machine config is local.
 
Goodness!! Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the
litterbox this morning - good thing he's always right!

xfiler

PEACE!
 
Thank you, Leythos for an informative - yet unbiased, and
understandable response to the question. I truly do not
understand why the anger over a simple process as
activation. I find the MS bashing to be a bit over the
top.

xfiler
 
xfiler said:
Goodness!! Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the
litterbox this morning
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Blow me. If anything I was taking it easier on Carey than I normally do
when chastising him for one of his numerous mistakes.

Carey has been posting here long enough to know not to post about things
he simply doesn't have the capacity to understand. And the way Product
Activation really works is one of those things he just doesn't
understand.

LOL! Did I say that? Please quote me.
xfiler

PEACE!
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
xfiler said:
Thank you, Leythos for an informative - yet unbiased, and
understandable response to the question.
Click to expand...

Wrong. Just because he hasn't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen,
therefore his answer to Alias was biased by his own personal experience.
I truly do not
understand why the anger over a simple process as
activation.
Click to expand...

Do we have a MicroSycophant-in-traing here?
I find the MS bashing to be a bit over the
top.
Click to expand...

LOL! Do you often side with a PROVEN predatory monopolies, that are
also PROVEN Patent and Copyright infringers, for treating there
customers as guilty until proven innocent of software piracy?

Are you French, xdresser?

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Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
By Prime Time, do you mean "realtime?" As in constant validation as opposed
to episodic validation? Validation seems pretty involuntary already!
 
My message continues at bottom:
-----Original Message-----


Wrong. Just because he hasn't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen,
therefore his answer to Alias was biased by his own personal experience.


Do we have a MicroSycophant-in-traing here?


LOL! Do you often side with a PROVEN predatory monopolies, that are
also PROVEN Patent and Copyright infringers, for treating there
customers as guilty until proven innocent of software piracy?

Are you French, xdresser?

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"


.
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French Canadian. Yeah MS has been convicted of being a
monopoly. And I agree - and have agreed with you in the
past - and in writing - that the Copyright and Patent law
need to be fixed. I guess we all have to deal with what
the good lord gives us. I know I can't make a better
product, and haven't seen one yet.

really - name calling? *What's that* - oh it's mommy
telling you it's time for your bottle!

xfiler
 
I think people think that they have a limited number of "chances" to
activate, and that they are wasting one chance without realizing in advance
that this would happen. I have yet to read one example where a legitimate,
non-OEM copy of XP was actually blocked from all forms of activation:
online, phone automated, and phone-human.
I want to hear one of these tales of woe, in detail, to dispel the
ambiguity.
 
kurttrail said:
Activation changes are cumulative, so if you any change since you last
activated the present install on your computer, those would be changes
count too.
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I changed my NIC card recently and added 128MB of RAM are the only other
things I've done.
But MANY people have reported that activation doesn't work they way it is
supposed to. Driver changes and BIOS flashes have caused reactivation.

People have already had problems with validation in its voluntary state.
When it goes prime time, it is gonna cause havoc, as people will be
blocked from getting security updates, so they'll be vulnerable longer to
cyber-terrorists!
Click to expand...

Yeah and the PAYING customer is the one jumping through the buggy hoops, not
the cyber-terrorists.

Alias
 
kurttrail said:
xfiler wrote:




Blow me. If anything I was taking it easier on Carey than I normally do
when chastising him for one of his numerous mistakes.

Carey has been posting here long enough to know not to post about things
he simply doesn't have the capacity to understand. And the way Product
Activation really works is one of those things he just doesn't
understand.



LOL! Did I say that? Please quote me.
Click to expand...

It doesn't matter because Carey rarely, if ever, responds to corrections
anyway. Sometimes if you blast enough fecal matter his way he wakes up a
little, but that's about it.

Steve
 
I was thinking back to where I *totally* upgraded a Compaq Win98 machine:
New motherboard, cpu, hard drive, memory and case. The OS was as happy as
ever! Seems like a very long time ago...
 
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