This is an example of why Linux loses.

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NoStop

Cynic said:
Yup. It can get pretty frustrating finding out what's what though!

I used to multi-boot, but decided to switch to separate disks since I
installed the caddies - easier to mess around with. I have a
removable HDD with W98, one with W2K, one with WXP and the Debian
Linux boot. The W98 is now redundant as it won't work after the RAM
upgrade, and was only for a few applications that don't work with
other OS's that I don't use anymore.
My suggestion - forget dual/multi-booting and just install Linux. Then setup
VMWare Player and run your various Windoze versions in virtual machines on
your Linux desktop. This way you can use Linux for anything to do with
Internet connections and reserve your Windoze vm's for playing around with
Windoze software that you "must have".

Cheers.

--
Linux is ready for the desktop! More ready than Windoze XP.
http://tinyurl.com/ldm9d

"Computer users around the globe recognize that the most serious threats to
security exist because of inherent weaknesses in the Microsoft operating
system." McAfee
 
S

szimme8856

Shouldn't this group be used for posting questions/problems/solutions
and not for battling over which is better... Linux or Windows? Those
who like Linux will continue to like Linux, those who like Windows will
continue to like Windows. IMHO this topic should RIP.
 
J

JEDIDIAH

It's a Neo MB - I don't recall the model and don't want to take the
cover off right now. Uses a single Intel Pentium running at 2.4GHz

...thinks he needs to take the cover off the machine to
figure out what's in it.

Yup, that's a "Linux user" alright.

[deletia]
 
J

JEDIDIAH

Shouldn't this group be used for posting questions/problems/solutions
and not for battling over which is better... Linux or Windows? Those

Did you just fall off the turnip truck?

This petty bickering is EXACTLY what this group is for, just
like any other *.advocacy group created since the dawn of time.
who like Linux will continue to like Linux, those who like Windows will
continue to like Windows. IMHO this topic should RIP.

Wow, a 5 time loser.

ivtv admittedly isn't as seamless as it should be.

However, the rest is probably bogus.


I don't believe that you've ever tried to install Linux
on ANY system. Given that you've installed those 5 drivers then
you should also have been able to tell us exactly what hardware
was a problem.
 
C

Cynic

...thinks he needs to take the cover off the machine to
figure out what's in it.

Yes, I do. You might know an easier way to find the MB model number
than look at what's printed on it. But rather than try to help out,
you would rather sit smugly believing that a few snippets of knowlege
make you superior.
 
A

Adrian

Cynic ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :
Yes, I do. You might know an easier way to find the MB model number
than look at what's printed on it. But rather than try to help out,
you would rather sit smugly believing that a few snippets of knowlege
make you superior.

A quick reboot and a look at the POST, p'raps? Or - at the outside - a
quick look at the BIOS setup.
 
K

know code

szimme8856 said:
Shouldn't this group be used for posting questions/problems/solutions
and not for battling over which is better... Linux or Windows? Those
who like Linux will continue to like Linux, those who like Windows will
continue to like Windows. IMHO this topic should RIP.

Considering this has been X-posted to

comp.os.linux.advocacy
alt.os.linux.suse
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
uk.legal

just which group/s do you think should be used for
questions/problems/solutions? Or maybe you should only post comments
like that to your chosen group instead of X-posting, otherwise you are
as guilty as the OP?

Also, top-posting is not considered to be very nice....
 
C

Cynic

Cynic ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :



A quick reboot and a look at the POST, p'raps?

That reports the BIOS, but not the MB model. IIUC the same BIOS is
used with several different MBs of the same family.
Or - at the outside - a
quick look at the BIOS setup.

Again, nothing about the MB model. I had a utility that I downloaded
from Neo's website that would detect the MB, though IIRC only to a
generic level (Neo 9XX IIRC) rather than the exact model. I have
looked for somewhere it might appear in BIOS or system descriptions
when I needed to upgrade the BIOS and needed to know to download the
correct file, but not found anything that is the same as the silksceen
number printed between the PCI slots (and which I have to remove the
graphics card to read)

I set up a Mandriva system last night BTW. Many thanks to the people
who provided the links to the images. Install was easy-peasy, though
with a few periods where nothing appeared to be happening for 10
minutes or so which gave the impression that it had hung, which caused
me to reboot the first time. I went with the 4 i586 CD images in the
end, because after 20 hours and only 2GB of downloading the DVD (slow
site), I had a power outage, and being an FTP site there's no way (I
know of) to pick up where it left off. I'll probably kick off another
download somewhen.

It certainly looks like a very good system - better than Debian for
me, and it appears to have detected everything on my MB except for the
sound card - even detected the RAID card OK and automagically loaded
Nvidia drivers so I can use full resolution. It brought up the RAID
disks as a single correctly named volume, but could not read the data
on them (NTFS file system). Other non-RAID volumes loaded OK and I
could access the data on them from Mandriva. I plugged in a USB drive
(400GB), and Mandriva recognised that it was a removable drive (NTFS
file system), but again could read only the volume name but not the
data on it. I haven't tried playing with WinTV, or tested whether I
can stream data via the FireWire card.

I'll have a hunt and see whether I can fine something that will drive
the Creative X-Fi PCI sound card.
 
D

Darrell Stec

After serious contemplation, on or about Tuesday 17 October 2006 6:53 am
Cynic said:
Again, nothing about the MB model.  I had a utility that I downloaded
from Neo's website that would detect the MB, though IIRC only to a
generic level (Neo 9XX IIRC) rather than the exact model.  I have
looked for somewhere it might appear in BIOS or system descriptions
when I needed to upgrade the BIOS and needed to know to download the
correct file, but not found anything that is the same as the silksceen
number printed between the PCI slots (and which I have to remove the
graphics card to read)


go to http://memoryx.com and download the little application to tell you
what memory to use for the machine. It will tell you the exact MB even
if it is relabeled. Then Google for that MB to find the specifics.


--
Later,
Darrell Stec (e-mail address removed)

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
 
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Cynic

go to http://memoryx.com and download the little application to tell you
what memory to use for the machine. It will tell you the exact MB even
if it is relabeled. Then Google for that MB to find the specifics.

Thanks for that. It came up with "Micro-Star inc, model MS-6742
version 100" The number 6742 sounds familiar, but I thought I had a
Neo MB. OTOH I deal with quite a few MB types, and may well have
misremembered.

The site also claims that there is no memory available for my MB,
which is strange because I bought a 1GB stick from PC World about 5
weeks ago, and that works fine.
 
D

Darrell Stec

After serious contemplation, on or about Thursday 19 October 2006 7:13
am said:
Thanks for that. It came up with "Micro-Star inc, model MS-6742
version 100" The number 6742 sounds familiar, but I thought I had a
Neo MB. OTOH I deal with quite a few MB types, and may well have
misremembered.

The site also claims that there is no memory available for my MB,
which is strange because I bought a 1GB stick from PC World about 5
weeks ago, and that works fine.

No it doesn't claim there is no memory for that MB. Rather it states it
has no cross reference for that exact model and type. However if you
go from extremely specific one step up and do a search putting in the
board type you will most probably find a page that will then give you
the memory. I've done that for tons of customers that had the wrong
memory type put in their machine by computer shops which used the
manuals which often are wrong.

--
Later,
Darrell Stec (e-mail address removed)

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
 

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