Taking the plunge: next steps

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Jeffraham Prestonian

After my 12-bit audio snafu this week, and realizing
that I could have fixed my problems relatively quickly
if I'd had an NLE package that could sync more
accurately than MM2 (e.g., something that does
SMTPE timecode), I've decided to try out Adobe
Premiere Pro 1.5. I got a good deal on it -- $380
for it, Adobe Encore & Adobe Audition (the latter isn't
really needed, but it was a package deal... and I may
use it just to see what it can do vs. the Sonic
Foundry/Sony Digital Entertainment packages I like
so well for audio editing).

I also decided to invest in some racier hardware,
since my last desktop box -- a PIII-800MHz -- was
a casualty of my last residential move (who knows?
it just wouldn't POST after I got it to the new place!).
I opted for a custom barebones P4-3GHz Prescott,
built on an MSI865G-Neo2PLS mobo, w/512MB DDR.
Cost? Under $500. Thank you, pricewatch.com!

Anyway, I thought I'd ask for comments... I'm very
familiar with much of Adobe's software, so I figure the
learning curve won't kill me (and I'm hoping the package
integration is all that it's hyped up to be), but I know
it'll be steeper than MM2.
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PapaJohn \(MVP\)

Lots of luck with it all.... I just finished tweaking the brightness/colors
of some low lite wedding dance scenes, using the Levels adjustments of
Premiere. If I only worked in Movie Maker, I wouldn't be able to use the
footage....

.... but now I'm back in MM2 whipping out the movies.

Come back next summer and tell us how it looks like from your new
perspective...
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PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
Photo Story 3 - use the menu branch at www.papajohn.org

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Jeffraham Prestonian

PapaJohn (MVP) said:
Lots of luck with it all.... I just finished tweaking the
brightness/colors of some low lite wedding dance scenes, using the Levels
adjustments of Premiere. If I only worked in Movie Maker, I wouldn't be
able to use the footage....

... but now I'm back in MM2 whipping out the movies.

Come back next summer and tell us how it looks like from your new
perspective...
Well, I don't mean to imply that MM2 is out of the
toolbox. :) It's just that the first project I tried to
crank out with MM2 (successfully, and under the
deadline, even -- the "clients" loved it) showed me
some of the limitations of the software. I've been
looking for Income Replacement Therapy for about
18 months now, and I'm hoping that Premiere Pro
will make that possible from several angles -- namely,
timesavings & quality of the end product.
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John Kelly

Hello again,

If you want to enter the video editing game at a level more likely to
earn cash then you will not help yourself by working with windows...this
applies to your potential as well as your pocket.

Most serious amateur/pros switch to running a Linux box and use program
like Cine Paint....the program that did the production work on films like
Shrek.

The cost in terms of money...NOTHING Both Linux and Cine Paint are FREE

The cost in terms of knowledge....Linux works like most other unix
systems...note that I use a small "u"...some people claim they have Unix
under their belt because they run a Linux box :) Wrong. Cine Paint is a
program in the public domain. You can modify it your self if you have the
programming skills or use it out of the box. If you want to turn Pro then
you have a steep learning curve (possibly) in any case so applying it to a
program that more and more post production teams are using might be time
better spent.

Whatever you end up doing, you should definitely compare the
capabilities of any program running on windows to programs like Cine
Paint....I am sure you will get a bit of a shock.

Cine Paint was renamed some short while back...and I am not now certain
whether "Cine Paint" is its new or old name....whichever it is the alternate
name is "The Gimp"

You can install Linux on top of a windows operating system so that you
can run both on one box...this is good because it gives you another short
sharp shock....because like for like operations are so much faster in
Linux....its for this reason that many business's are switching to Linux so
that they can use the free Office Star package which does everything
Microsoft products do and does not have a renewable licence cost attached to
it....in fact it has no cost at all...it is also FREE

Hope this helps .... Have Fun
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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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Jeffraham Prestonian

John Kelly said:
If you want to enter the video editing game at a level more likely to
earn cash then you will not help yourself by working with windows...this
applies to your potential as well as your pocket.

Most serious amateur/pros switch to running a Linux box and use program
like Cine Paint....the program that did the production work on films like
Shrek.

The cost in terms of money...NOTHING Both Linux and Cine Paint are FREE

The cost in terms of knowledge....Linux works like most other unix
systems...note that I use a small "u"...some people claim they have Unix
under their belt because they run a Linux box :) Wrong. Cine Paint is a
program in the public domain. You can modify it your self if you have the
programming skills or use it out of the box. If you want to turn Pro then
you have a steep learning curve (possibly) in any case so applying it to a
program that more and more post production teams are using might be time
better spent.
Thanks for the advice, John -- I'm a certified (or is
that certifiable?) HP-UX SysAdmin, amongst other
InfoTech things. :) I probably should have clarified
that I'm not planning to snag a job with Disney or
ESPN -- just some genteel entrepreneurship, so in
terms of quality of the end product, I'm betting an XP
box running Premiere Pro will be up to the task (I used
to work with a guy who used Premiere 6.0 to do some
amazing things).
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John Kelly

Hello,
Thanks for the advice, John -- I'm a certified (or is
that certifiable?) HP-UX SysAdmin, amongst other
InfoTech things. :) I probably should have clarified
that I'm not planning to snag a job with Disney or
ESPN -- just some genteel entrepreneurship, so in
terms of quality of the end product, I'm betting an XP
box running Premiere Pro will be up to the task (I used
to work with a guy who used Premiere 6.0 to do some
amazing things).
OK, yes I used to be certified too. I worked for a number of Police
Forces as an an officer and ended up advising the British Home Office on
certain Police matters relating to computers

So I guess you knew all about multiple boot operating systems :) I have
an old NT based system which also runs Red Hat 7....(but not for much
longer) I went that way because of the rapid change by small to medium
companies over here that have gone to LLinux and Star Office for their
administrative and processing needs. At zero cost and with verly little
learning curve it makes a very tempting option. I learned about The Movie
Gimp from a friend I went through University with....his brother runs a
modest post production company here in the UK. I was sceptical until I had
played with it for a while...basically there is not much it will not deal
with...but you might guess it looks nothing like Movie Maker. Its very much
a bolt it on if its needed otherwise leave it out operation, one of the many
reasons for its speed...no excess bagage.

Best of luck with Premier.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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Jeffraham Prestonian

John Kelly said:
So I guess you knew all about multiple boot operating systems :)
Sure, but ever since I started doing a lot of audio
work on the PC, I installed these nifty little EIDE drive
bays in my desktop system. They consist of a "dock"
that stays in the PC, and a "drawer," that contains a
drive. I bought several extra "drawers," so I can boot
into Mandrake or XP without the hassle of making
extra partitions and/or the other bugaboos of a
multi-boot system. Of course, the other bay is for my
data drive... very convenient for anyone working with
large quantities of bits (and hard drives are so cheap
these days, it also makes for a great backup solution).
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John Kelly

Hello again,

Yes I have docking hard drives too....had to cut the power to the
additional fan on a couple of them just recently....they were making a
terrible racket. I use them mostly to move large hard drives between
machines....this because I have up until recently been capturing 3 hour VHS
tapes to DV-AVI and at around 40GB they take forever to transfer on the
network (Wireless)....I had them prior to that when I was still involved in
a lot of programming...I could, and often did, take my work home and shut
myself away....only my boss had my phone number :) and it was with his grace
that I could do that. The system that has NT and Linux on is a 486 !!! and
its very nearly as fast as my one 3GHz machine and certainly as fast as my
2GHz (talking Linux here)

My youngest son lives in the USA (Sn Systems Engineer for Symantec), he
tells me that hard drive prices have fallen through the floor again over
there....I'm told that its because the new technology drives are soon to
make an appearance....perhaps around the time the new microsoft file system
hits the real world...I'm not sure if its the next batch of drives to be
made available or the ones in the queue behind...I understand they will be
using the spin of electrons to store data....fantastic stuff....using Movie
Maker on one of those or indeed any program that relies heavily on the speed
of a hard drive, would be interesting.

Have Fun :)
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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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John Kelly

Still trying to stir up that little flame war...I'm better than you
remarks...I LOVE THEM........and this from a Bozo with a Daewooooooo
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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John Kelly

Really, Wow, I've not heard of them before!!! Still trying to prove you are
better than anyone else I see....wana start a flame war on this subject as
well

Please put me in your kill file....it is now where you are...Bozo with a
Daewoooooooooooooo

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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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