system restore failure

[Guest]

After uninstalling my HP printer software and reinstalling the newer version
and drivers (wether or not that had anygthing to do with my problem, I am
having a problem installing a windows update so I thought I would restore to
a date earlier this week. when I do, I get the following message "Changes
made to drive "C:\ after this point cannot be reversed because the drive was
either excluded from System Restore monitoring, or was tirned off or
removed." Does mean this restore is not valid?

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

It means that there is no going back. Check the settings in System Restore
to see that C:\ is still being monitored. If not, you will have to restart
it (which you probably should do anyways). Once damaged or confused, the
only way to get System Restore working correctly is to stop and restart it,
and lose all existing points in the process. Whether or not this is related
to the HP printer issue would be anyone's guess.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Will Denny]

Hi

Right click on My Computer and select Properties>System Restore. Make sure
that 'Turn off System Restore on all drives' isn't enabled. If it isn't
enabled are all drives being monitored under Available drives>Status?

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Will Denny
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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[Guest]

THANK YOU I guess I just go into the system restore properties and stop
it..restart my computer and then go back into the system restore and start it
again? I am also no able to install the latest windows update KB886903 and
get an errror message OX64c. All of this happend at the same time and that
was why I was trying to restore. If I defrag I get a file could not be
defragged c:\doc & set\me\application data\microsoft\clr security congfig".
any suggestions on how these might be interrelated or the correction of them?

 

[Gerry Cornell]

Can you find an Error Report in Event Viewer.


Make an exact note of the precise text of any error message. Minor
discrepancies can
make it harder to search for information about the error message.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools,
Event Viewer.
When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event
ID, Source
and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click
for further information and you can copy using copy and paste.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the
error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two
pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now start your
message
(email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This will paste the
info from the
Event Viewer Error Report complete with links into the message. Make
sure this is
the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer.

In Event Viewer there is no facility to print Error Reports. A
workaround is copy and
paste the Error Report into an email, send it to yourself and print off
the copy in your
Inbox or your Sent Items folder.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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[Bert Kinney]

Hi Old Bob,

The message you are seeing is normal when drives/partition are turned
off in the System Restore settings.

I suspect Windows is not installed on the C:\ partition. If Windows is
installed on the C:\ partition C:\ could not be excluded from being
monitored. The only way to excluded the partition Windows is installed
on it to turn System Restore off. If this were the case you would
receive a dialog box asking "System Restore has been turned off. Do you
want to turn on System Restore now?". The partition Windows is
installed can not be excluded from being monitored, only turned off.

Go to Start - Run and type %systemroot% then press enter. This will
open Windows Explorer to the location where Windows is installed.

 

[Guest]

When I went into the system restore to turn it off, I notice that the only
drive that is listed is an old "F" drive and not my C drive. there is no
"seeting" button to designate what drive to monitor so how do I add c drive?

 

[Guest]

I did the start run and how do you tell what drive of file you are seeing on
the screen..If I look in explore I see a folder for windows in both the C and
F drive. a couple of years ago, I had a larger hard drive added to my PC.
The installer said he would copy all info to the new drive C and keep all the
old info as a back up on the F drive. Could this be why C drive is not
being monitored in the status section of system restore? If so, I guess it
never worked. How do I get it to monitor C so system restore can be used?
thank You

 

[Guest]

I changed the setting to show the whole path and the top of the window does
say. C:\windows..Doesn't that mean windows is installed on C?

 

[Bert Kinney]

Adding a new hard drive can sometimes mess up how System Restore sees
partitions. I would suggest reinstalling System Restore. Then stop
System Restore from monitoring all partitions other than the one Windows
is installed on.

How to reinstall System Restore:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#ReinstallSR

 

[Guest]

Thank You Bert--I tried to reinstall as instructed using the
c:\windows\servicePack Fiel\I386 folder and clicked on the sr file and a
screen for only a brief second that looked like it was trying to install
appeared and then back to the same screen asking for the file...I thought
maybe it installed that quickly but when I go into the properties of SR it
still only shows the old F drive with no button like settings to add or
delete that drive in the status section. I stopped and thougth it might go
away and bring up drive c but no luck. Still only shows driv F...any other
suggestions?

 

[Edward W. Thompson]

Thank You Bert--I tried to reinstall as instructed using the
c:\windows\servicePack Fiel\I386 folder and clicked on the sr file and a
screen for only a brief second that looked like it was trying to install
appeared and then back to the same screen asking for the file...I thought
maybe it installed that quickly but when I go into the properties of SR it
still only shows the old F drive with no button like settings to add or
delete that drive in the status section. I stopped and thougth it might
go
away and bring up drive c but no luck. Still only shows driv F...any
other
suggestions?

Using System Restore to provide a means to 'backup' the Registry and other
essential files is really not sensible. System Restore is flaky to say the
least, the only time you know you have a problem with it is when you come to
use it then if you have a problem all is lost. There are far more reliable
means to provide 'backup', the combination of ERUNT with MS SFC for example.
I suggest you forget System Restore and download ERUNT (SFC is native to
WINXP). Every backup of ERUNT is 'standalone' unlike System Restore.

 

[Guest]

Mr. Thompson -- don't know if I am in the right forum. First the computer
locked up in an application. Then I restarted and a message said "an
inconvenience has occurred....." So restarted again, the computer went to
the safe mode options page. I picked safe mode and the system restore pages
came up. Picked the one and only system restore date and time. The computer
began to restart but now is stuck on the restart screen -- the screen with
the Windows flag logo and the green boxes flashing. Can you help? Thanks
much, Peggy

 

[Guest]

Peggy again -- forgot to mention I am using Win XP Home edition.

 

[Gerry Cornell]

Miss Peggy

You are in the right forum but you should have started a new thread.

When you are following up on an earlier post keep all replies in the
same thread.

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Sorry I can't help with your problem.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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[Bert Kinney]

Hi,

What the install is looking for is the sr.sys file. Do a search of the
drive for sr.* and note the location of either sr.sys or the sr.sy_
files. In the Files Needed dialog box browse to it.

In the Files Needed box at the top, where is it suggesting the files are
located?

 

[Guest]

Thank you Bert--I thought my thread had been lost. I found several
sr.sys--one in the i386 service pack date 8-3-04one in the system 32dllcash,
one in system 32drivers all in C:|windows. My problem is that when I get
this error message that it cannot find the tmp53.tmp in the file types it
will only look for ".msp" files. I searched for .msp and there are a half
dozen all with long numbers. To back up, should I have saved and executed
the original .net Redistributalbe package ver 1.1 from c: or from
c:\windows. I tried both and get the same results. Somewhere I saw that I
had Net framework version 101043220573. Could I have installed from too many
places and it is confused. Should I uninstall with the cleaner and start
over?
Old BOB

 

[Bert Kinney]

Point the reinstall of System Restore to the i386 service pack folder.
That should do it.

I am not sure what affect the .net framework has on this.

 

[Bert Kinney]

To keep track of newsgroups, I would suggest dumping the web interface
and use a newsreader such as Outlook Express.

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

 

[Guest]

I tried to reply in outlook but it said the sender was not specified and I
should check my configeration (I will follow up on that later) so here I am
at the old way for now. As you can tell my previous message was a bit
confusing because I have two problem-System restore and getting the Net
Framework update installed. In any event I am sorry about the confusion But
to correct my system restore I navigated to the folder in the service packs
file\i386 and then it looked for srframe.mmf so I did a search for that and
found a couple so I picked (I hope correctly) the srframe.mmf in
C;|windows\system32\dllcache and it completed and rebooted. YEAH.. the
properties now show C and F drives being monitored with a settings button.
should I turn if off and on--or just create a restore point? Should I leave
it monitoring the old drive F too?--what a relief--getting somewhere...