System lock up's possibly due to heat

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Raiden1803

so for some strange reason, lately my system has been locking up a lot
depending on what im doing. if its not watching tv its gaming, after 10 mins
or so my system would lock up and refuse to respond causing me to reboot.
What's strange about this is i've had this install on for about a month and
now it's giving me mass amounts of problems like this. i've ran Real Temp (
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ )
and nvidia's ntune . to monitor system temperatures while my system idle's
and before it locks up.

from what im seeing My Video card idles around 54 degree's C and reaches up
to 60-62 ish during gaming.

According to real temp if i configured this program right. my core
tempeature idles (during normal windows operations) at around 45-50 degrees
c. During gaming i've seen it reach around 65 and at one point 68 degrees C
before my system stopped respond.

I dunno i think my processor's just finally giving up. i've had it for a
year so i dunno, from what i've read 55-60 are normal temperatures for a
nvidia 8800 GTS so i really doubt its my video card locking up on me. Im
also considering just re installing vista again just for the hell of it.. I
could use some extra advice..

System Specs :

Abit IP35-E Motherboard.
Intel Pentium Core2Duo 2.66GHz
4GB of ram
Nvidia 8800 GTS (512 MB)
Creative lab's Sound Blaster X-Fi
 
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PvdG42

Raiden1803 said:
so for some strange reason, lately my system has been locking up a lot
depending on what im doing. if its not watching tv its gaming, after 10
mins
or so my system would lock up and refuse to respond causing me to reboot.
What's strange about this is i've had this install on for about a month
and
now it's giving me mass amounts of problems like this. i've ran Real
Temp (
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ )
and nvidia's ntune . to monitor system temperatures while my system
idle's
and before it locks up.

from what im seeing My Video card idles around 54 degree's C and reaches
up
to 60-62 ish during gaming.

According to real temp if i configured this program right. my core
tempeature idles (during normal windows operations) at around 45-50
degrees
c. During gaming i've seen it reach around 65 and at one point 68 degrees
C
before my system stopped respond.

I dunno i think my processor's just finally giving up. i've had it for a
year so i dunno, from what i've read 55-60 are normal temperatures for
a
nvidia 8800 GTS so i really doubt its my video card locking up on me.
Im
also considering just re installing vista again just for the hell of it..
I
could use some extra advice..

System Specs :

Abit IP35-E Motherboard.
Intel Pentium Core2Duo 2.66GHz
4GB of ram
Nvidia 8800 GTS (512 MB)
Creative lab's Sound Blaster X-Fi
As you say the system locks up under stress, (video, games) it could well be
heat. So, start systematically checking possible issues.
Case airflow? Do you have adequate exhaust fan(s) upper rear to get rid of
hot air? Front intake fan?
Dust/crud? Have you checked fan blades and between the fins of heat sinks,
especially the HSF on your CPU?
Your CPU temperature under load seems high to me, so consider removing, then
reseating your HSF (applying new thermal transfer material properly, of
course).
Also measure your case temperature under load. A well ventilated case should
be within 5 - 10 degrees C of ambient (room) temperature.
You need to find the source of the heat problem by checking all of the
above, then fix it.
If you want further guidance, please give us idle and load temperatures for
both your CPU and your case, and the room temperature. Those figures will
help others give you more specific guidance.
 
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Raiden1803

aside from sticking a thermometer or something inside the case what's the
best way to measure the temperature under a load?

Case wise i do have adequate fan's though. My case is a thermal take
tsunami. i put one 90mm Fan on the side, a 120, and another 120 in front of
the HD.

the CPU just has it's standard cooler, along with the heat sink on the Abit
motherboard.
 
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Paul Montgomery

aside from sticking a thermometer or something inside the case what's the
best way to measure the temperature under a load?

My mobo has a Windows utility that can monitor all of that. Perhaps
yours does as well?
 
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peter

Do a Google for Rightmark CPU Clock Utility
install it and watch the temps of the 2 cores as well as the Utilization of
the CPU...as you watch a movie
or stress the CPU with a Stress test utility.......
Chances are something is getting too hot...this will help you find out if
its the CPU...
My core 2 duo with an aftermarket Thermalright Cooler and 120mm fan never
goes above 55 running stress test for hours.

The room temp also comes into play as the Northbridge could be getting too
hot and causing your shutdown...try taking the
side off the case and test....if that works then you definitely need better
airflow thru the case.On another unit I pointed a floor fan at the front
air intake and that reduced the temp enough for it to not shut itself
down..I also attached another fan inside to suck in more air and blow over
the mobo towards the back exhaust fan...it was a crude duct tape job
utilising the empty spot under the DVD/CD with that blank cover
removed...but it worked to bring the internal case temps down by 5-6
degrees.
hope this helps...

peter


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PvdG42

Raiden1803 said:
aside from sticking a thermometer or something inside the case what's the
best way to measure the temperature under a load?

Case wise i do have adequate fan's though. My case is a thermal take
tsunami. i put one 90mm Fan on the side, a 120, and another 120 in front
of
the HD.

the CPU just has it's standard cooler, along with the heat sink on the
Abit
motherboard.
Go here:

http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=69&download=utility

Select your socket type and chipset, then download any monitoring utilities
Abit offers. What you want is probably on the driver/utility CD that came
with your motherboard as well. *Most* motherboards have temp sensors
onboard, and these utilities will display the readings. A generic utility
you can try is SpeedFan.

http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php

The reason it's important that you provide the temps I asked for is the
relationships between room and case, and between case and CPU will tell us
which component(s) need your attention. For example, if your room temp is
25C, your case temp is 45C and CPU is 55C, you'll want to look at your case
fans and cable arrangements because case temp should be within 10C of the
room temp. Conversely, if room is 25C, case = 33C and CPU is 55C, it's your
HSF that isn't doing the job.
 

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