System/file back up

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Guest

All I have is a CD drive and I see from previous posts XP doesn't provide a
straightforward method of backing up to CD's. So what do most people do, get
an external drive? Are they expensive? Easy to install?

Someone mentioned backing up to the internal hard drive, then copying the
back up to CD's, but it wasn't explained how to do this. When I select
"browse" to chose a place to back up to, I get a prompt to "insert a disk
into drive A" (which I don't have). If I select cancel, I get the "save in"
prompt. Do I just back up to my desktop or what? How do I copy the back up
to a CD? What if the backup file is larger than the CD? Will I be prompted
to change CD's?

Someone else mentioned using one of the "free back up applications". Which
ones do you recommend? Do these allow backing up to CD's or is backing up to
CD's more trouble than it's worth?
 
S

SingaporeWebDesign

Hello,

Most people backup to external drives. They are relatively cheap, especially
if you get the 3.5" ones (they are bigger physically, but cheaper) and are
easier to backup/update to.

With regards to free back up applications, somebody else will have to assist
us on that. We backup everything manually - copy and paste the files and
export registry keys manually.

--
Singapore Website Design
http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
Singapore Web Hosting
http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
Windows XP FAQ
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

All I have is a CD drive and I see from previous posts XP doesn't provide a
straightforward method of backing up to CD's. So what do most people do, get
an external drive?


I don't know what most people do. My guess it that most people don't
back up at all. But I recommend external drives.

Are they expensive?


No. You can buy an external USB for about $25 more than an internal
one. Or you buy an internal one and a USB enclosure and put it in
yourself.

Easy to install?



External drives don't get installed. You just plug it in when you want
to use it.

Worst case if you buy an enclosure and put it in yourself, it's
trivially easy and takes just a few minutes.

Someone mentioned backing up to the internal hard drive, then copying the
back up to CD's, but it wasn't explained how to do this. When I select
"browse" to chose a place to back up to, I get a prompt to "insert a disk
into drive A" (which I don't have). If I select cancel, I get the "save in"
prompt. Do I just back up to my desktop or what? How do I copy the back up
to a CD? What if the backup file is larger than the CD? Will I be prompted
to change CD's?


I don't think CDs, or even DVDs are an effective way of backing up the
large hard drives that most people have today. It's a pain to have to
shuffle the CDs in and out and it doesn't take very long before you've
spent as much as the external hard drive would have cost.

Someone else mentioned using one of the "free back up applications". Which
ones do you recommend? Do these allow backing up to CD's or is backing up to
CD's more trouble than it's worth?


Here's my standard post on backup:
First of all, almost everyone should be backing up regularly. It is
always possible that a hard drive crash, user error, nearby lightning
strike, virus attack, even theft of the computer, can cause the loss
of everything on your drive. As has often been said, it's not a matter
of whether you will have such a problem, but when.

Essentially you should back up what you can't afford to lose--what you
can't readily recreate. What that is depends on how you use your
computer and what you use it for.

It takes time and effort to backup, but it also takes time and effort
to recreate lost data. If you back up daily, you should never have to
recreate more than one day's worth of last data. If weekly, there's
potentially a lot more to recreate. You should assess how much pain
and trouble you would have if you lost x days of data, and then choose
a backup frequency that doesn't involve more pain and trouble than
that you would have if you had to recreate what was lost.

Some things (photographs, for instance) can never be recreated, and
more frequent backup may be wanted for them.

At one extreme is the professional user who would likely go out of
business if his data was lost. He probably needs to back up at least
daily. At the other extreme is the kid who doesn't use his computer
except to play games. He probably needs no backup at all, since worst
case he can easily reinstall his games.

Most of us fall somewhere between those extremes, but nobody can tell
you where you fall; you need to determine that for yourself.

Should you back up Windows? Should you back up your applications? Most
people will tell you no, since you can always reinstall these easily
from the original media. But I don't think the answer is so clear-cut.
Many people have substantial time and effort invested in customizing
Windows and configuring their apps to work the way they want to.
Putting all of that back the way it was can be a difficult,
time-consuming effort. Whether you should backup up Windows and apps
depends, once again, on you.

How to backup? What software to use? There are many choices, including
the Windows-supplied backup program. Which choice is best for you
depends at least in part on the answers to some of the questions
above.

Finally what backup media should you choose, and how should it be
stored? There are many choices, including CDs, tape, zip drives, and
second hard drives.

I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive because
it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and
backup to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches,
nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not kept
in the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the
life of your business depends on your data) you should have multiple
generations of backup, and at least one of those generations should be
stored off-site.

My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup scheme
uses two identical removable hard drives,I alternate between the two,
and use Acronis True Image to make a complete copy of the primary
drive.

I also use a pair of 1GB thumb drives for making more frequent backups
of my most critical data (like financial information). For that I just
drag and drop.
 
J

Jim

JSB said:
All I have is a CD drive and I see from previous posts XP doesn't provide
a
straightforward method of backing up to CD's. So what do most people do,
get
an external drive? Are they expensive? Easy to install?
I backup my system drive to a separate and much bigger disk. Then I clone
the separate
disk to a USB drive. I use Acronis True Image

As for expense, Best Buy advertises disks for sale every week. Judge these
costs yourself.
You can also find them at such places as Newegg.com.

Usb drives are easy to install; you just plug them in.
An internat drive is mounted with 4 screws and two cables. I don't know if
you would
consider this easy to install. Since the retail versions come with an
installation CD, getting
the rest of the install done is quite simple.
Someone mentioned backing up to the internal hard drive, then copying the
back up to CD's, but it wasn't explained how to do this. When I select
"browse" to chose a place to back up to, I get a prompt to "insert a disk
into drive A" (which I don't have). If I select cancel, I get the "save
in"
prompt. Do I just back up to my desktop or what? How do I copy the back
up
to a CD? What if the backup file is larger than the CD? Will I be
prompted
to change CD's?

Someone else mentioned using one of the "free back up applications".
Which
ones do you recommend? Do these allow backing up to CD's or is backing up
to
CD's more trouble than it's worth?

I use EasyCD Creator to copy files to CDs. My system disk uses 12 GB
which would take
a lot of CDs. Instead, it is much better to use double layer DVDs. Only
two of them are needed.

Jim
 
H

Harry Ohrn

External USB drives are relatively cheap and work well. Rather than buy an
external drive unit I always prefer to purchase the drive enclosure and the
hard drive separately as they are very easy to put together and you can
readily swap out drives that way. Here is an example from a popular online
seller
SATA drive enclosure - $20 US
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2703735&CatId=2778
SATA hard drives
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Recs=10&Nav=|c:139|&Sort=4

PATA drive enclosure - $20 US
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1733195&CatId=2778
PATA hard drives
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Recs=10&Nav=|c:134|&Sort=4
 

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