Surprised by successful printer install

[Lang Murphy]

When I first installed Vista RTM I tried installing a network printer, an
old, very old, NEC SuperScript 1260. Every time I tried to install the
printer, I got an access denied msg. (I tried numerous times on a couple of
boxes.) Since the printer was hanging off of an XP Home box, I assumed the
problem was with the XP Home box, because if I connected the printer
directly to any one of my Vista boxes, it would print, no problem.

For a reason no one here could possibly care about, today I tried, "just for
the hell of it," to install the printer again on one of my laptops running
Vista Ultimate. Holy Crap! It installed, no problem. Went to the other
laptop running Vista Ultimate and the printer installed without issue.

So... I guess Vista updates actually fix stuff. Way cool. And to those who
cannot resist to respond with "it should have been 'fixed' when Vista was
released," spare me. PC's ain't Macs... there are a bazillion possible
configurations out there. That MS got my, gee, ten year old printer (and
that's just a SWAG, age wise) to work with XP Home, which did not include
the network smarts of XP Pro, to work, well... I'm impressed.

And... I fully understand that the access denied msgs had absolutely nothing
to do with my printer or XP Home. Still, I remain impressed that MS got
their crap together to fix this issue. Before, I repeat, -before- SP1.
Kudos, MS.

And... before all the anti-Vista, anti-MS, anti-societal humbugs jump in and
call me an MS-Vista-Fanboi (get the spelling right, for god's sake!), I'm
about to buy my second Mac. And I don't have any intention of running any MS
OS's on it. ;-)

Lang

 

[Chad Harris]

Lang--

Good going getting the printer working.

That's always a great feeling. I had two triumphs in that respect with
Vista, besides being able to load it and run it well on a 7 year old box.

One was getting Turtle Beach Sound card which is a decent card to run by
using a workaround that involved loading two drivers and the TBSC control
panel. That card last made drivers when MSFT made every day April Fools Day
from Redmond with Windows ME.

The other that took me a good while was getting an HP SJ 5300C scanner to
work on Vista.

All these "sound card experts" and people from sound card companies told me
to forget it--it wouldn't happen lol but it works fine.

HP Tech Support told me that it was utterly impossible to make the scanner
driver work--and their have been some creative ideas for other drivers to
work on here but I got the original to work.

I don't think MSFT did anything to upgrade or improve this--I got them to
work on all the Beta builds.

I'm shocked to think I ever would not have spelled fan bois/boys with all
its exotic volwels:

"Definitions of fanboi on the Web:

Fanboy or Fanboi is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted
to a single subject or hobby, often to the point where it is considered an
obsession. The term originated in comic book circles, to describe someone
who was socially insecure and used comics as a shield from interaction,
hence the disparaging connotations. Fanboys are often experts on minor
details regarding their hobbies, and they take these details extremely
seriously. ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanboi

LOL I'll have to see why there isn't a Wikipedia entry for MSFTFanBoi/Boy
yet.

CH

 

[Lang Murphy]

Lang--

Good going getting the printer working.

That's always a great feeling. I had two triumphs in that respect with
Vista, besides being able to load it and run it well on a 7 year old box.

One was getting Turtle Beach Sound card which is a decent card to run by
using a workaround that involved loading two drivers and the TBSC control
panel. That card last made drivers when MSFT made every day April Fools
Day from Redmond with Windows ME.

The other that took me a good while was getting an HP SJ 5300C scanner to
work on Vista.

All these "sound card experts" and people from sound card companies told
me to forget it--it wouldn't happen lol but it works fine.

HP Tech Support told me that it was utterly impossible to make the scanner
driver work--and their have been some creative ideas for other drivers to
work on here but I got the original to work.

I don't think MSFT did anything to upgrade or improve this--I got them to
work on all the Beta builds.

Obviously, persistance pays off. Sometimes, though, I don't think any amount
of persistance will prove successful. There are no Vista drivers for my ATI
TV Wonder Pro... I suppose I could pull it from my XP box and put in it a
Skunkwerks box to see if I can get it working... but I don't have high hopes
of that happening, especially because it's video related. Sigh.

At any rate, I'm impressed by -your- persistance to get that legacy hw
working with Vista. I, for one, would be interested in knowing how you got
that hw working with Vista. Not that I have a Turtle Beach sound card or an
HP SJ 5300C scanner, but I think the methodology used might be leveraged in
attempts to get other legacy hw working with Vista.

I'm shocked to think I ever would not have spelled fan bois/boys with all
its exotic volwels:

"Definitions of fanboi on the Web:

Fanboy or Fanboi is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted
to a single subject or hobby, often to the point where it is considered an
obsession. The term originated in comic book circles, to describe someone
who was socially insecure and used comics as a shield from interaction,
hence the disparaging connotations. Fanboys are often experts on minor
details regarding their hobbies, and they take these details extremely
seriously. ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanboi

LOL I'll have to see why there isn't a Wikipedia entry for MSFTFanBoi/Boy
yet.

CH

Oh, man... I was just kidding when I threw in that "get the spelling right"
comment. To be honest, I don't know of any real fanboi's in this ng. That
may come as a surprise and seem unbelievable, but my reasoning behind that
is just about everybody, even the more vocal Vista supporters, do post
personal gripes about Vista. So, to my way of thinking, if one posts gripes
about Vista, one cannot be a fanboi or fangrrl. (And, OMG, if this provokes
one of those unending threads of the usual suspects casting insults at each
other, I will avoid broaching this subject again. LOL!) In fact, I think
the -real- fanboi's in this ng are those who unfailingly and unceasingly
cast aspersions on Vista and others that post in this ng. (Some might call
them trolls.) I think one could consider them fanbois of contention, because
that's all they contribute to this ng. Jes' my two cents on -that- matter...
probably should've just kept my opinion to myself, but, what the hey... it's
a holiday weekend!

Lang