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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
Is this your 'last ditch' attempt before the big day?
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Alias
Mike said:
No sir. These are just some things people should consider before buying
Vista, regardless of what day it is. Did you even read the article and,
if so, how do you feel about it? Do you think Hollywood should dictate
to MS how to set up Vista?
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Roy Coorne
Well, definitely not... that's why he/she is hiding as an 'Alias' -
though knowing that Resistance Is Futile
rOy
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Paul-B
Alias said:
What's more to the point is should Hollwood dictate to the average PC
user how he/she uses legally-purchased software/media?
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Alias
Roy said:Well, definitely not... that's why he/she is hiding as an 'Alias' -
though knowing that Resistance Is Futile
rOy
Hiding? How do we know you are Roy? That could be a phony name. What has
my persona got to do with it? Please try to address the issues, not the
persona. Of course, that's difficult when the issues aren't going your
way so, like a typical microsoft arse kisser, you resort to insults when
you can't refute the issues.
Alias
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Jon
Alias said:
Vista will remain in a virtual machine here until it's been 'suitably
tamed'.
and like all guests that presumptously try to dictate what you can or cannot
do in the privacy of your own home, their latest 'terms and conditions' will
be suitably ignored.
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Beck
Paul-B said:
And the average PC user has themselves to blame?
If people did not pirate software/movies/music then there would be no need
for content protection like this.
I have no problem with content protection/vista activation or whatever they
want to throw at me, providing they work properly and do not fail on
legitimate wares. I do not want to have to phone Microsoft and explain
myself away to a stupid telephone consultant because their system has
wrongly flagged me or deleted my files.
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Alias
Beck said:
Ah, but these measures do not stop piracy one iota!
That about sums up these "protective" programs: they only hassle the
paying customer and do nothing to stop piracy.
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Paul-B
Alias said:
Hiding, nymshifting and the like have been an integral part of usenet
since it's inception. There is no reason why anyone should not do it...
the fact that some choose so to do and some don't is irrelevant to the
material being posted (trolling excepted in the non-trolling groups)
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Bob
Paul-B said:
Why not....they seem to want to dictate just about everything else we
do...from politics to the shoes we wear! :>)
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Roy Coorne
Alias said:
Better kissing Microsoft than an Alien
rOy
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Roy Coorne
Jon said:
I understand that the Constitution, the Amendments and the legislation
based upon are not valid in the privacy of your home.
Roy
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chris
Alias said:
People fretted and worried about activation with XP, and in the end it
turned out a user could switch computers as often as they wanted and
simply call and get an activation number without a question (or at least
they could force MS to give them the number.) I suspect it won't be any
different here. If I decide to move my retail copy from one computer to
another, I imagine that I will simply have to call MS and they will
activate it. I don't like activation either, but until Vista is out for
a while and we see if some of these horror stories are true, this is
mostly speculation.
Your average Vista user will be your average home user, more than likely
using Vista that came with a new computer. These users are mostly
surfing the web, sending email, downloading pictures and their home
collection of CDs. There are, on the other hand, many technical users
of Vista using the RTM right now, and I have heard of no issues
concerning degraded playback, Windows Defender deleting software
improperly, etc. It does not mean these issues are not there or that
they won't show up as more users move to HDef on their home media boxes,
but I suspect that if Vista seriously degrades performance, or deletes
legal software, or if MS refuses to activate too many legal copies of
Vista, then the law suites will come out of the woodwork. MS is "Evil"
to the extent that they want our greenbacks. They won't get those if
they are too much of an a**hole (well more than they are sometimes, anyway.)
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Beck
Alias said:
They say that Vista can uninstall programs by itself if there is illegality
going on. How are they going to bypass UAC?? Whenever I uninstall a
program from Vista it always requests my permission first.
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Alias
Beck said:
That's something that should be asked of MS' programmers. I have no idea
how it will be done.
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chris
Alias said:
Or maybe ask first if it will be done. We still have not proven that it
will be done at all.
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caver1
Beck said:
It has been shown and MS agrees WGA has at least at 42% false positive
rate. So with that track record are you going to trust their content
protection/activation schemes?
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Jon
Roy Coorne said:
It has little validity in the UK, but even if it did, neither MS's latest
eula, nor your wayward American legislation should form the basis for
anyone's moral outlook.
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chris said:
As I won't be buying Vista tomorrow or anytime soon, if ever, I will
wait and see what happens. I would ask MS your question but they are not
famous for telling the truth or answering questions from their paying
customers.
Alias