Supporting Files (PLEASE HELP ASAP)

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Guest

Im so annoyed ive had this problem for a while. Okay you all know when you
make a web page it makes a folder with the same name as your page followed by
_files. In order to upload my page to the server I must have those files in
different folders. I did find a post on this and i tried to follow the
instructions but it did not work because the instructions were Office 2000 I
have 2003! PLEASE HELP ASAP!
 
S

Steve Easton

You need to create your web, give it a name and then save.
That creates a folder with a blue globe on it, which is your root folder for your web
Then open your new web and create pages and folders "inside" in this root folder

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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
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Guest

PS I dont understand!

Steve Easton said:
You need to create your web, give it a name and then save.
That creates a folder with a blue globe on it, which is your root folder for your web
Then open your new web and create pages and folders "inside" in this root folder

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer
 
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Steve Easton

I guess I'm not sure exactly what your trying to do.
However, you can't / shouldn't create a web page unless you've already created a web to
contain it.

To start building a web site, open FrontPage and click File > New > Empty Web Site.
Give it a name and then Save it.

Then click File > Open Web ( Open Site in FP 2003 ) and then start creating
your pages and content inside your new web site.

hth


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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
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Guest

Thax for helping me im kinda a n00b! I guess im not being specific enough.
What i need to do is unlink home.html and home_files. I need the web page to
read the images froom a folder in the root directory called image-files. The
other files like the xml list need to be in another folder in the root
directory called suppor-files. Ive already tried to just copy the files from
home_files to their correct directories but whenfront page opens the page it
dosnt read the files from the correct directory it still reads from
home_files!


Thax
-eulB
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

How did or are you creating pages, as FP does not create folders like home_files when you create
pages?

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Steve Easton

Ok.
Think of your web site as a container.
This "container" will be a folder with a blue globe on it, and will be named with the name you gave
your new web.

"Everything" you want to use in your web needs to be located inside this container.
If you link to items on your computer that are outside of this "container," when you publish your
web it will not work properly


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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
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Guest

I understand what ur saying but i dont have a regular domain. HEres exactly
what i have 2 do:
SBI! Integration Guidelines.

HTML Editor Compatibility gives you the best of both worlds... the
productivity and complete design flexibility of your HTML editor, and the
suite of SBI!'s powerful integrated site promotion and management tools.

To get the best of both worlds, your HTML pages must meet SBI! Integration
Guidelines. Otherwise, all you'll be doing is regular Web hosting.

Think of it as putting a key into a lock. Your page (the key) must have a
format that duplicates the way SBI! structures sites. Get the key right and
you'll turn the lock ( SBI!'s back-end software) and open the SBI! door to
success.

Let's review the guidelines for duplicating SBI!'s format on your own
computer (i.e., as you build your site locally) now.

Please take your time and proceed through this material thoroughly. Please
understand that, like any Web host, we cannot support HTML errors or problems
with your HTML editor. We do, of course, support any technical glitches with
the actual page-building/editing process.

Since we cannot support your own HTML ("Why does my page look funny?"), it's
critical for you to know the SBI! Integration Guidelines, before you begin
building your pages.

Ready? Here is a brief synopsis of the guidelines to be followed when you
create your site locally (i.e., on your computer) using your HTML editor (to
be followed by detailed instructions)...

* All HTML files must use the ".html" extension (not ".htm").

* All HTML files must be at root level.

* Place all your images in a folder called image-files.
Supported file types: .gif, .jpg, .jpeg, .png

* Place all media files in a folder called media-files.
Supported file types: .avi, .mov, .mp3, .mpeg, .mpg, .qt, .wav, .wma,
..wmv

* Place all other supporting files in a folder called support-files.
Supported file types: .js, .css, .swf, .pdf, .txt, .xml

* Directory guidelines:
i) When you build your site locally, the above three directories must
be at the root level (i.e., at the same level as your index.html and other
..html pages) ii) Do not create any folders, other than the three listed above.

* If you want to use SBI!'s automatically created NavBar, insert the
"<<NAVBAR>>" tag (no quotes) into your page, in the spot that you want it to
appear.

* Navigational options selected in the Navigation Options of Site
Central will still function on SiteBuilder-created pages and HTML editor
pages that contain the "<<NAVBAR>> tag."

* SBI! features built-in click-through tracking for all links on your
uploaded pages -- it automatically formats your outgoing links accordingly.
See below for more information.

Now, here as promised, are the detailed instructions for duplicating the
SBI! site structure on your computer...

1) The Root Folder and Your HTML Files
On your computer, create a "root folder" and label it the name of your
domain (ex., "anguilla-beaches.com"). Create and edit all HTML files (please
use the ".html" extension for all your HTML files) in this folder. This is
the same "root level" that SBI! builds all HTML pages in. And it is where
your HTML files go when you upload them.

2) Images
On your computer, create an image folder labeled image-files and place that
folder inside your "root folder." Put all your images that you will use on
any page created by your HTML editor into that folder.

As you will see, you will upload, one page at a time, all these graphics
using the Step 2 "Upload" tool. This tool will upload your graphics into a
folder labeled image-files on our computer. We reserve this folder purely for
this use, so as not to confuse it with our other "internal" directories that
we use for images...

* "imgs" for logo and look-and-feel and NavBar images, and
* "images" for your regular SiteBuilder-related Image Library images.

Do not upload an HTML file until you have verified that all references
(images and links) are correct.

Please note: if you Absolute-reference your links, like so...

<a href=
"http://www.yourdomain.com/image-files/img.gif">

.... you will not be able to test & preview your page properly in your
browser, since your supporting files will not yet be present on our SBI!
servers. For that reason, we recommend you Relative-reference your links,
like this...

<a href="image-files/img.gif">

.... to ensure proper previewing.

3) Media Files
All media files (.avi, .rm, qt, .wmf, .mpeg, .mp3), must be placed in a
folder called media-files. On your computer, create a new folder labeled
media-files, and place it inside your "root folder." Place all your media
files into that folder. When you upload these files, SBI! will automatically
place them into a folder labeled media-files on our servers. Please
Relative-reference all your media files for easy previewing.

4) Other Supporting Files
All other supporting files (JavaScript, Flash, CSS,and PDF), must be placed
in a folder called support-files. On your computer, create a new folder
labeled support-files, and place it inside your "root folder." Place all your
supporting files into that folder. When you upload these files, SBI! will
automatically place them into a folder labeled support-files on our servers.
Please Relative-reference all your supporting files for easy previewing.

Special Note: Please do NOT create any additional folders, or any nested
folders (i.e., do not create a new folder called "baby-movies" and place it
in your media-files folder). SBI! will not accept them. All supporting files
must be called from one of the three folders listed above!

5) "<<NAVBAR>>"
Click here to review.

6) Navigation Options
You may still use all the functionalities outlined in Navigation Options
part of the All Pages section of Site Central. Remember... navbar changes
will take effect on all pages created by the SBI! SiteBuilder, and for those
created by an HTML editor that include the "<<NAVBAR>>" tag. A custom navbar
for your HTML Editor page will not update automatically because it does not
include this tag. Use your HTML editor's features to "globally update" things
like NavBars.

7) Outgoing Links
If you were to create an outgoing link using the SiteBuilder Link Block,
that link is created in such a way that it first passes through a script on
our computers. This allows us to track and report on the Click-Through Rate
of every outgoing link on all your pages.

And SBI! does the same with your HTML editor-created pages... and it does
not require anything extra from you to do so!

SBI! scans your uploaded HTML document for out-going links (i.e., links to
domains other than yours), and reformats them in such a way that it can track
and report the Click-through rates of each one.

For example, say you have an affiliate link set up to refer visitors to your
merchant partner's site at...

<A HREF="http://www.abc.com/youraffiliateID">

And this link is on your SBI! Web page...

YOUR-DOMAIN.COM/referring-page.html

SIDEBAR:
When you are linking OUT to other Web sites, please enter the full, absolute
URL, starting with "http://". If you enter a partial URL, SBI! considers that
a relative URL and completes the URL with "http://www.YOUR-DOMAIN.COM"
formatting, and considers it to be an internal link.

If you do a View > Source on your Web page after it is "live," you will see
that the above link (to "http://www.abc.com/youraffiliateID") now appears
as...

<A HREF="http://www.abc.com/youraffiliateID"
onClick="window.location.href=
'http://www.YOUR-DOMAIN.COM/cgi-bin/counter.pl
?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.com%2FyouraffiliateID
&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.YOUR-DOMAIN.COM%2F
referring-page.html'; return false;">
Note: Actual URL is all on one line, NO line breaks.

This reformatting is normal. It applies to all links to outside domains
(ex., Value Exchange links to other sites, affiliate links to other sites,
etc.). It also applies to the subdomain of your Store Build It! store (if you
have one).

The counter.pl script (formerly known as "site.pl") allows you to both track
Click-Throughs to the linked-to URL ("http://www.abc.com/youraffiliateID" in
this example) and from the originating page on your site
("YOUR-DOMAIN.COM/referring-page.html" in this example). These stats are
reported in the Click Data section of TrafficCenter in Site Central and Value
Exchange.

TECH NOTES:

1) Some browsers are no longer reporting referrer fields in log files. By
including the originating page of the link in the "referrer=" part of the
counter.pl script, we can still report how effective each outgoing link on
each page is for you.

2) You can "turn off" this reformatting by adding your own onClick
javascript into the URL (ex., onClick="window.status='Text in status bar';
return true;" -- this bit of javascript puts "Text in status bar" into the
browser's status bar). When you add onClick javascript, we assume that you
either do not want to track this link or that you have more important
functionality to accomplish.

One final point about links, just in case you were wondering... your Tracker
Library is not affected by any of this reformatting of OUTgoing links, since
the Tracker Library links only track INcoming links. Your custom HTML editor
page is just like any other SBI! page, so your Tracker Links can point to
this page, like any other, thereby tracking links to this page if you like.

8) Access To The <HEAD> Tag

With SiteBuilder, you cannot gain access to the <HEAD> tag. SiteBuilder
automatically creates the important META KEYWORDS and META DESCRIPTION tags,
for example. The goal of the SiteBuilder block-by-block approach is to
eliminate tech issues such as building META tags.

But since you are using your own HTML editor, you have access to the <HEAD>.
So you have some added flexibility. For example...

If you do not want to submit a page, all you have to do is add a "<META
NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX,NOFOLLOW">" tag in the <HEAD> tags, like
this...

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX,NOFOLLOW">
<TITLE>...</TITLE>

When we see that tag, we will not submit it. And if the engines somehow find
it, they will not spider it. This makes an especially useful landing page. It
can be an exact duplicate of another page that you may want to use as a
landing page for an e-zine ad you are buying, for example.

The point is that this exact duplicate will not make the engines think you
are spamming it with a duplicate page because we will not submit it, if it
has the NOROBOTS META tag in it. And if an engine does find this page somehow
(by following a link to it, for example), it will not spider it.

SiteBuilders (those who use the block-by-block SBI! cannot get into the
<HEAD> tags. And that's where engines check for a tag such as a NOROBOTS tag.
But this is a technical issue, so anyone with this need, should be able to
use an HTML editor and upload a page with this kind of requirement.

This way, everyone's needs are met.
 
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Stefan B Rusynko

FP never makes a folder named filename_files when you create or edit a file named filename in FP

But all of the Office programs do when you save as Html (from say Word or Excel or PPT).
Those folders are called thicket folders and are managed / hidden by FP when you import that file into a FP web/site - thus are Not
editable

So Don't create your pages outside of FP and you can have any folder structure you want (or think you need)
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| Im so annoyed ive had this problem for a while. Okay you all know when you
| make a web page it makes a folder with the same name as your page followed by
| _files. In order to upload my page to the server I must have those files in
| different folders. I did find a post on this and i tried to follow the
| instructions but it did not work because the instructions were Office 2000 I
| have 2003! PLEASE HELP ASAP!
 
R

Ronx

This indicates that you have either:
Used WordArt or other VML graphic objects from the FrontPage drawing
toolbar. VML graphics can only be seen in Internet Explorer 5.5 and
later, other browsers will see a poor quality .gif image (contained in
those invisible _files folders) or nothing at all. WordArt and VML
should be avoided in publically accessible web site.
OR
Imported Word (or other Office application) documents. These will
also place supporting files in hidden folders.

Since I do not use VML, or import Office files, I never have this
problem, but if you use File->Publish from the FrontPage menu, all the
hidden folders will be correctly uploaded.
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Oh yes
I forgot about the office Word/Shape art "trash" in FP
- should be removed from FP


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| FrontPage does when you use WordArt (or other VML) with down-level
| graphics selected.
| --
| Ron Symonds
| Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
|
| | > FP never makes a folder named filename_files when you create or
| > edit a file named filename in FP
| >
| > But all of the Office programs do when you save as Html (from say
| > Word or Excel or PPT).
| > Those folders are called thicket folders and are managed / hidden by
| > FP when you import that file into a FP web/site - thus are Not
| > editable
| >
| > So Don't create your pages outside of FP and you can have any folder
| > structure you want (or think you need)
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | > | Im so annoyed ive had this problem for a while. Okay you all know
| > when you
| > | make a web page it makes a folder with the same name as your page
| > followed by
| > | _files. In order to upload my page to the server I must have those
| > files in
| > | different folders. I did find a post on this and i tried to follow
| > the
| > | instructions but it did not work because the instructions were
| > Office 2000 I
| > | have 2003! PLEASE HELP ASAP!
| >
| >
|
|
 
M

Mike Mueller

Then you need to read the instructions and figure out how to
implement them. It really does not look too hard. I will
try to answer it inline for you.

: 1) The Root Folder and Your HTML Files
: On your computer, create a "root folder" and label it the
name of your
: domain (ex., "anguilla-beaches.com"). Create and edit all
HTML files (please
: use the ".html" extension for all your HTML files) in this
folder. This is
: the same "root level" that SBI! builds all HTML pages in.
And it is where
: your HTML files go when you upload them.

----> Create a new web in FrontPage >File >New >Web>Empty
Site. Delete any folders that are in it.

: 2) Images
: On your computer, create an image folder labeled
image-files and place that
: folder inside your "root folder." Put all your images that
you will use on
: any page created by your HTML editor into that folder.

----> Create a folder called image-files. Import all of the
images you are going to use into this folder

: 3) Media Files
: All media files (.avi, .rm, qt, .wmf, .mpeg, .mp3), must
be placed in a
: folder called media-files. On your computer, create a new
folder labeled
: media-files, and place it inside your "root folder." Place
all your media
: files into that folder. When you upload these files, SBI!
will automatically
: place them into a folder labeled media-files on our
servers. Please
: Relative-reference all your media files for easy
previewing.

---> Create a folder called media-files. Import all media
files into this folder

: 4) Other Supporting Files
: All other supporting files (JavaScript, Flash, CSS,and
PDF), must be placed
: in a folder called support-files. On your computer, create
a new folder
: labeled support-files, and place it inside your "root
folder." Place all your
: supporting files into that folder. When you upload these
files, SBI! will
: automatically place them into a folder labeled
support-files on our servers.
: Please Relative-reference all your supporting files for
easy previewing.

---> Create a folder called support-files, and import all of
your js, swf, css, and pdfs into that folder

: Special Note: Please do NOT create any additional folders,
or any nested
: folders (i.e., do not create a new folder called
"baby-movies" and place it
: in your media-files folder). SBI! will not accept them.
All supporting files
: must be called from one of the three folders listed above!

---> DO NOT add any other folders

*********************************

You can now create yor web pages. When saving them, make
sure you use an html extension. The default for FP is htm,
and cannot be changed. This should work for them
 
G

Guest

Mike i followed your instructions step by step but i still cannot upload my
site! Here is a line from my html code height=100
src="Home1112_files/image001.gif" v:shapes="As you can see it is not reading
the gif from the image-files folder its reading from the Home1112_files
folder. I have already copied image 001.gif to the image-files folder now i
just need to know how to get the site to read the picture from the directory
image-files!
Thxs So Much For Every Ones Help
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Do you have a web / site open when you move the image file and is the image path as shown below
actually in the HTML code directly and not embedded in any type of script?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
G

Guest

Im going fricken nuts! When i saved home.html it made a folder called
Home_files in the root directroy. Its not supposed to do this. It also took
the picture of the globe of the root diretory and put that picture on the
home_files folder (screams out loud) This is irratating!!! Ahhh (jumps off
building)
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Can you provide detail steps of what you are doing from the point where you start FP?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
G

Guest

Start-Front Page. It auto loads the web site hawaiis-beaches.com. Root
directory comes up. There are 4 files (image-files folder, media-files folder
support-folder, and home.html) I select home . html to edit that page.
Although there is no home_files in the root directory when i go to the
hawaiis-beaches folder on the desk top there is a home_files folder with a
globe on it. If i delete this folder it also deletes home.html. The reason i
know somthings not working right is because the gifs are still being read
from Home1_files/image001.gi. If i change this in the code to
image-files/imageoo1gif it will just change it self right back to what it was
before i changed it
 

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