Superantispyware update

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Bill Sanderson MVP

If that's the doc that lists what is detected, they do list a number of
families of rootkits. A family is listed only when they remove all
variants--so there are more rootkits removed than listed.



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Guest

Bill Sanderson MVP said:
It was completely obvious the machine was
infected--popups all over the place, no matter that everything gave it a
clean bill of health.

I've never found a rootkit on a machine which had no symptoms of having
one--but those are the ones you want to find, of course.

Yes, but this is really helpful to know, Bill - I mean that there were these
other symptoms in the case you're describing.

Whenever I read about rootkit detection, I find there's always a warning
about a degree of interpretation being required to know what the results mean
(you mentioned it yourself). That doesn't sound like a road I want to go
down, either for fear of doing more harm than good, or because of the effect
on my blood pressure of trying to interpret results I can't understand.

My feeling is this: if the Malicious removal tool finds nothing; if I'm
running behind a router and a firewall, with effective antimalware RTP in
place; if all my scanners say I'm clean; if I continue to adopt my usual
circumspection with regard to websites and email attachments; and if my
computer is behaving in a perfectly normal way - then I don't think I need to
start dealing with the nightmare of rootkit detectors.

Does that seem a reasonable position to take?
 
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Donald Anadell

Thanks Bill,

I'm sure you're correct, I didn't dig through the whole list either.

Donald Anadell
 
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Guest

Engel said:
Hi Tim,

by D. Scott Secor
Tantum paranoid superstes! (ex Latin: Only the paranoid survive!)

By Tim Clark (with help form the UC library and others)
Tantum suspiciosissimi supersunt! (ex Better Latin: Only the paranoid
survive!)

I give Scott full credit for the English but there is no word for "paranoid"
in Latin and I believe the word "paranoid" is a "created word" from the Greek
and is closer to "out of your mind" or crazy :)

"suspiciosissimi" means "the most suspicious". My "translators" did not
really like the use of "tantum" for "only" in this case but said it was
acceptable.

I wanted to stick as close to Scott's original as I could.

?:)
Tim
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

Your position seems reasonable to me. In my case, I am dealing with client
machines--in this case it was an office machine, but used by a teen-age son
of one of the employees on occasion. Even a home machine can have unusual
risks--roommates, in a college dorm, or other social oddities--where some
previously trusted "friend" plants something.

So-you know your level of exposure best--these things don't just float
through the air and 'light on your machine--they are either clicked on by a
user, or planted intentionally by someone.

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Guest

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Nano only detects,
that the real version "Activescan2" detects more! Also it can remove
things, but than it took more than a hour to find with the full scan!

[> replying to Engel's post:

Has anyone tried this new online scanner recently? No problem with the fast
scan - but then it asks if you'd like to do a totalscan. This is capable of
removing what it detects - if you register. But I couldn't find any way of
registering - I kept getting a 'we cannnot process your request' message, no
matter what I did.

I did a 5 minute scan anyway - halfway through it turned red and said it had
found something without saying what. Then at the end it cleared the screen
and congratulated me because it hadn't found anything!

Is it just me that it seems determined to frustrate?
 
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Tom Emmelot

Hi Alan,

I did a full scan with "Activescan2" and it took 3 hour to scan my C
drive 22.3 GB in 51.714 files. Match to long!
Found nothing.
I register without any problems, got a mail and then you finish the
register procedure.


Regards >*< TOM >*<

Alan D schreef:
:

Nano only detects,
that the real version "Activescan2" detects more! Also it can remove
things, but than it took more than a hour to find with the full scan!

[> replying to Engel's post:

Has anyone tried this new online scanner recently? No problem with the fast
scan - but then it asks if you'd like to do a totalscan. This is capable of
removing what it detects - if you register. But I couldn't find any way of
registering - I kept getting a 'we cannnot process your request' message, no
matter what I did.

I did a 5 minute scan anyway - halfway through it turned red and said it had
found something without saying what. Then at the end it cleared the screen
and congratulated me because it hadn't found anything!

Is it just me that it seems determined to frustrate?
 
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Robinb

everytime I have tried an online scan with a panda product I had problems,
crashes, freezes, doesn't give accurate info and I have tried it on many
computers.
I just don't try anything new from them anymore
robin
Alan D said:
:

Nano only detects,
that the real version "Activescan2" detects more! Also it can remove
things, but than it took more than a hour to find with the full scan!

[> replying to Engel's post:

Has anyone tried this new online scanner recently? No problem with the
fast
scan - but then it asks if you'd like to do a totalscan. This is capable
of
removing what it detects - if you register. But I couldn't find any way of
registering - I kept getting a 'we cannnot process your request' message,
no
matter what I did.

I did a 5 minute scan anyway - halfway through it turned red and said it
had
found something without saying what. Then at the end it cleared the screen
and congratulated me because it hadn't found anything!

Is it just me that it seems determined to frustrate?
 
G

Guest

Robinb said:
everytime I have tried an online scan with a panda product I had problems,
crashes, freezes, doesn't give accurate info and I have tried it on many
computers.
I just don't try anything new from them anymore

I tried again today, Robin, but this time got a different message, saying
that my account needed to be confirmed by following the link in the email I'd
been sent. Of course I had done exactly that. Tried several times - no use.
So I wrote a message explaining what the problem was - and then got a
response saying my message hadn't been sent correctly, and would I please try
again. After two tries I gave the whole thing up as a bad job. If the
registration process and message-sending routines are so bug-ridden, how
reliable is the scan????
 
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Robinb

got me but as said i always had a problem at their site so i will not use
anything that has to do with them again
robin
 

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