Suggestions for new 64 Bit System

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Frank Morise

Time to upgrade to a new box, the Abit-KT7 (non-raid) is long in the tooth.

As expected , the decision making process is more of a hassle than I'd like
with all the video and mb and chip choices available. Probably 4 million combinations

I've decided that an AMD 64 is probably the way to go, with the Intel P-4
series a possibility only because there are PCI-E boards available NOW for those.

Asking for some suggestions on mb, video combinations. I'm leaning toward
Abit and Nvidea Geforce, just for reference.
 
In alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit, Frank Morise ordered an army of
hamsters to type:
Time to upgrade to a new box, the Abit-KT7 (non-raid) is long in
the tooth.

As expected , the decision making process is more of a
hassle than I'd like
with all the video and mb and chip choices available. Probably 4
million combinations

I've decided that an AMD 64 is probably the way to go,
with the Intel P-4
series a possibility only because there are PCI-E boards available NOW
for those.

Asking for some suggestions on mb, video combinations.
I'm leaning toward
Abit and Nvidea Geforce, just for reference.
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Settle on a firm decision about what platform you want to go with.
Particularly with AMD look at both Socket 754 and 939. 939 is far better
and will leave you in good stead for future upgrades, but is more
expensive. Seeing as you have a KT7 you might want a board that may become
your main board for a while. How much are you able to spend?
 
Frank Morise:
I've decided that an AMD 64 is probably the way to go
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Asking for some suggestions on mb, video combinations.
I'm leaning toward Abit and Nvidea Geforce, just for reference.
Click to expand...

Abit KV8 Pro is good if you want to stick with Abit
but the MSI K8N NEO Platinum is better

eVGA Geforce 6800 128MB
 
Settle on a firm decision about what platform you want to go with.
Particularly with AMD look at both Socket 754 and 939. 939 is far better
and will leave you in good stead for future upgrades, but is more
expensive. Seeing as you have a KT7 you might want a board that may become
your main board for a while. How much are you able to spend?
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Tell me why 939 "is far better" than 754? I'm sick of seeing this BS. With
CPU's of the same clockspeed and cache, there is very little benifit to
939 over 754 other than an upgrade path to CPU's "rated over 3700+". And
ones pays a hefty price for that benefit, which may not ever be used. I'd
be more concerned about a PCI lock on whichever board I got reather than
having a 939 cpu with dual channel ram. It's just not worth the extra cost.
 
Frank said:
Time to upgrade to a new box, the Abit-KT7 (non-raid) is long in the tooth.

As expected , the decision making process is more of a hassle than I'd like
with all the video and mb and chip choices available. Probably 4 million combinations

I've decided that an AMD 64 is probably the way to go, with the Intel P-4
series a possibility only because there are PCI-E boards available NOW for those.

Asking for some suggestions on mb, video combinations. I'm leaning toward
Abit and Nvidea Geforce, just for reference.
Click to expand...

If you're wanting PCIe, AMD motherboards with that are coming out right
now in socket 939.
 
In alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit, Wes Newell ordered an army of
hamsters to type:
Tell me why 939 "is far better" than 754? I'm sick of seeing this BS.
With CPU's of the same clockspeed and cache, there is very little
benifit to 939 over 754 other than an upgrade path to CPU's "rated
over 3700+". And ones pays a hefty price for that benefit, which may
not ever be used. I'd be more concerned about a PCI lock on whichever
board I got reather than having a 939 cpu with dual channel ram. It's
just not worth the extra cost.
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Two reasons, 754 has only a 64bit memory interface and 939 has 128bit. At
the same clock speed, with the same amount of cache and clocked or
even overlcocked to the same speeds the 939 would still have a performance
advantage. Also 754 is going to be phased out next year.

If there is no performance differences between the two different socket
platforms there would only be one socket to choose from, not two.

You are right that bang for buck S754 is a good deal, but if you are going
to keep a machine for several years then S939 is a better way to go.
 
Usually you'll find prices on PC stuff fairly inflexible from about
now, through christmas. Usually Feb (strong christmas buying) and
March (poor christmas) are a better time of the year.

Forrest

Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
http://home.comcast.net/~mobo.help/
 
In alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit, Wes Newell ordered an army of
hamsters to type:


Two reasons, 754 has only a 64bit memory interface and 939 has 128bit.
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Well blow me down. you don't say.:-)
At the same clock speed, with the same amount of cache and clocked or
even overlcocked to the same speeds the 939 would still have a
performance advantage.
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The only thing dual channel provides is a larger bandwidth. But the reason
the performance isn't hardly any better than S754 is that that extra
bandwidth isn't needed hardly at all. Dual channel vs single channel
provides a meager 3% overall advantage. All you have to do is open your
eyes and read the benchmarks.
Also 754 is going to be phased out next year.
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I don't think so.:-)
If there is no performance differences between the two different socket
platforms there would only be one socket to choose from, not two.
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Well, there is about a 3% difference. And that's enough for AMD to justify
939, and of course the higher prices.:-)
You are right that bang for buck S754 is a good deal, but if you are
going to keep a machine for several years then S939 is a better way to
go.
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ASrock K8 Combo-Z has both sockets on the MB. $77.
 
Wes Newell said:
Well blow me down. you don't say.:-)


The only thing dual channel provides is a larger bandwidth. But the reason
the performance isn't hardly any better than S754 is that that extra
bandwidth isn't needed hardly at all. Dual channel vs single channel
provides a meager 3% overall advantage. All you have to do is open your
eyes and read the benchmarks.

I don't think so.:-)

Well, there is about a 3% difference. And that's enough for AMD to justify
939, and of course the higher prices.:-)


ASrock K8 Combo-Z has both sockets on the MB. $77.
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Some peole spend a fotune trying to overclock their FSB to get faster memory
throughput. Their gains are nothing compared to dual channel on an Athlon64.
We are not talking about the "hype" of the Athlon boards where the
CPU/northbridge interface was a bottleneck.
 
You are right that bang for buck S754 is a good deal, but if you are going
to keep a machine for several years then S939 is a better way to go.
Click to expand...

I'm going to have my socket 754 system for several years, and
don't plan on throwing it away just because s754 is phased out.
 
Sounds like this will be a nice system. If you really want to have fun with
it try putting it into the hottest new case around.. a gold pc case! Talk
about a fashion statement! I have one and every single person who has seen
it is in awe. The artist, Emily, is a real sweetheart too.
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