SUBJECT: Athlon 64 X2 6400+ ----> "Black Edition" ???

[Sniper]

My Q is: I am beginning to 'piece' together a new PC. This Athlon XP 3200+
(Barton), Soltek board, & Crucial RAM have served me very, very well.

I am/was lurking around Newegg & TigerDirect in order to make a proc choice
& purchase.

I've figured I am pretty much being 'driven' to Socket AM2. That seems to be
what the 'top-end' AMD procs use (?). Yes, that was a question.

Checking AMD company info, I cut & pasted this directly from AMD.com ---->
"Athlon 64 X2 6400+ 'Black Edition' (3.2GHz, 125W, & 2MB total dedicated L2
cache, 2000MHz HyperTransportT bus, socket AM2)".

I will attempt to ask my questions as simple as I can.

According to the above proc, can anyone give me more information on it? What
is 2000MHz HyperTrans Bus? Is that a different/new way of saying FSB these
days? What is w/this 'Black Ed.' deal?

As I am reading/learning, could someone add some light to the difference(s)
between Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core(s) & Athlon FX(s)-64 & 70? (FYI: I am not a
power user nor a hard-core gamer, nor a gamer in general, @ least not on a
PC; I am just someone who wants to have the very BEST from the company(s) I
choose.

Additionally, knowing that my XP 3200+ (Barton) was 'un-locked', I never
tried, or cared to, OC it. So I am looking for something that is blazing
fast out-of-the-box. Also, what is the deal with the numerous names of
'cores' (?), such as:

Barcelona,

Brisbane,

Denmark,

Egypt,

Italy,

Manchester,

Manila,

Orleans,

Palermo,

San Diego,

Santa Ana,

Santa Rosa,

Sparta,

Taylor,

Toledo,

Trinidad,

Troy, &

Windsor (s) ?!?!?!





ANY info any of you guys, & gals, could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Jason (Sniper)

(e-mail address removed)

NY

..

PS: NOT to sound argumentative, but would anyone argue that any other RAM is
HEAD & SHOULDERS above Crucial? (I have just really had great luck w/them.
From 4 separate PCs, a laptop, & their SD (MP3 player & DigiCam) & MicroSD
(2GB for my cell phone). Again, any info / constructive criticism would be
greatly appreciated.

 

[Desmond]

My Q is: I am beginning to 'piece' together a new PC. This Athlon XP 3200+
(Barton), Soltek board, & Crucial RAM have served me very, very well.

I am/was lurking around Newegg & TigerDirect in order to make a proc choice
& purchase.

I've figured I am pretty much being 'driven' to Socket AM2. That seems to be
what the 'top-end' AMD procs use (?). Yes, that was a question.

Checking AMD company info, I cut & pasted this directly from AMD.com ---->
"Athlon 64 X2 6400+ 'Black Edition' (3.2GHz, 125W, & 2MB total dedicated L2
cache, 2000MHz HyperTransportT bus, socket AM2)".

I will attempt to ask my questions as simple as I can.

According to the above proc, can anyone give me more information on it? What
is 2000MHz HyperTrans Bus? Is that a different/new way of saying FSB these
days? What is w/this 'Black Ed.' deal?

As I am reading/learning, could someone add some light to the difference(s)
between Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core(s) & Athlon FX(s)-64 & 70? (FYI: I am not a
power user nor a hard-core gamer, nor a gamer in general, @ least not on a
PC; I am just someone who wants to have the very BEST from the company(s) I
choose.

Additionally, knowing that my XP 3200+ (Barton) was 'un-locked', I never
tried, or cared to, OC it. So I am looking for something that is blazing
fast out-of-the-box. Also, what is the deal with the numerous names of
'cores' (?), such as:

Barcelona,

Brisbane,

Denmark,

Egypt,

Italy,

Manchester,

Manila,

Orleans,

Palermo,

San Diego,

Santa Ana,

Santa Rosa,

Sparta,

Taylor,

Toledo,

Trinidad,

Troy, &

Windsor (s) ?!?!?!

ANY info any of you guys, & gals, could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Jason (Sniper)

(e-mail address removed)

NY

.

PS: NOT to sound argumentative, but would anyone argue that any other RAM is
HEAD & SHOULDERS above Crucial? (I have just really had great luck w/them.
From 4 separate PCs, a laptop, & their SD (MP3 player & DigiCam) & MicroSD
(2GB for my cell phone). Again, any info / constructive criticism would be
greatly appreciated.

I am looking to upgrade myself. The problem is you will have to ditch
your DDR memory for DDR2. not compatable. If the board does not have
on board AGP you will need a PCI express graphics card. The winfast
motherboard does have this but others like Asus don't

Desmond.

 

[Sniper]

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I am looking to upgrade myself. The problem is you will have to ditch
your DDR memory for DDR2. not compatable. If the board does not have
on board AGP you will need a PCI express graphics card. The winfast
motherboard does have this but others like Asus don't

Desmond.

I am undoubtedly getting a new MB, RAM (DDR2), PSU, different HS & F, PCI-E
Grafx, etc. Only things I will "re-use" is/are the SATA HD(s), 10/100 card,
opticals, floppy (do not ask, I will probably finally 'oust' that), etc.
Oh, yeah, I will keep this case ... I like it a lot.

Sniper
(e-mail address removed)
NY

..

 

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I am undoubtedly getting a new MB, RAM (DDR2), PSU, different HS & F, PCI-E
Grafx, etc. Only things I will "re-use" is/are the SATA HD(s), 10/100 card,
opticals, floppy (do not ask, I will probably finally 'oust' that), etc.
Oh, yeah, I will keep this case ... I like it a lot.

In which case I recommend an ASUS M2N-E or ABIT KN9 Ultra both based on the
nforce 570 chipset.
These boards (and most/all new boards nowdays) have onboard networking
(sometimes 2)

As far as CPUs go, the 6400 Black edition is currently the fastest CPU AMD
produce. This may change next month, but then thats always the case. there
is always something faster just around the corner.

Cheers!

 

[Terrence Quinn]

PS: NOT to sound argumentative, but would anyone argue that any other
RAM is HEAD & SHOULDERS above Crucial? (I have just really had great
luck w/them. From 4 separate PCs, a laptop, & their SD (MP3 player &
DigiCam) & MicroSD (2GB for my cell phone).

In the main Crucial is as good as anything else out there. On a case by case
basis other brands such as Corsair or Mushkin might have slightly better
timings, usually at a cost premium.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
2 GB - $55 after rebate

 

[Beladi Nasralla]

The advantage of having dual core is that the switching between
applications on your Windows desktop is fast (apart from the games
aimed at hypertherading between multiple cores).

 

[Bill]

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Bill