still here?

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Tom Willett

The beginning of the end, Suzanne.

: MS has hired contractors in India to man the forums. Although they have
been
: strictly instructed to follow a "community first" policy (that is, give
: ordinary volunteer end users the opportunity to answer first) and not
answer
: questions until they are 12-24 hours old without an answer, what we're
: seeing is that many of them (a) rush in with an answer, usually a
reference
: to a KB article that may or may not be relevant (it's hard to tell without
: actually clicking on the link and going to the article, since they don't
: quote the title of the article), (b) ignore previous answers that may
: actually be more helpful, and then (c) mark their replies as Answers.
We're
: trying to get this corrected, but since the contractors are being paid
based
: on their performance, it's hard to see how that's going to work. There is
: also a lot of resistance to the point system, which a lot of us see as
: having a bad influence on those who are NOT being paid to answer.
:
: Rest assured, the MVPs will continue to soldier on as long as we can. What
: I'm finding, though, that the reduction of granularity in the forums (30
: English-language Word NGs poured into three Word forums) means that each
: forum contains more questions that I'm not qualified to answer and
: consequently have to skip, making it more time-consuming for me to handle
: the questions. There's also considerable angst about the fact that there
are
: no product-specific VBA or "programming" forums--just a single Office
: Programming forum on Answers and separate Word, Excel, and Outlook
: development forums on MSDN, where end users are less likely to find them.
: Access is even worse off: down from 28 English-language NGs to one forum
: shared with Visio and Project!
:
: --
: Suzanne S. Barnhill
: Microsoft MVP (Word)
: Words into Type
: Fairhope, Alabama USA
: http://word.mvps.org
:
: : > Suzanne (if you get this post)
: >
: > I notice that some responders in 'Answers' actually work for MS which
you
: > and others MVPs do not. How will this affect those of you we have been
: > speaking to?
: > Are they timing this change with the release of 2010? Will th others be
: > using another forum or is 'Answer' the replacement?
: >
: > Thanks
: > Dottie
: >
: > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
: >
: >> I have noted considerable fall-off in all the msnews NGs. I think
people
: >> have already started migrating to Answers, as there seems to be a
steady
: >> increase in questions posted there.
: >>
: >> --
: >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
: >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
: >> Words into Type
: >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
: >> http://word.mvps.org
: >>
: >>
: >> > Has the newsgroup been turned off? No new posting since 9:24 am
(EDT)!
: >> >
: >>
: >> .
: >>
: >
:
 
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dp

Once again we get information not from MS but from the kind, patient, caring
responders in this group. Hope to see you gals and guys in "Answers...". If
not I'll be searching for you. I've learned so much and been helped
tremendously over the last couple years when I found this forum.

dottie
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

I've already said this may be my last year as an MVP, depending on what
metrics are used to assess our contributions.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
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Peter T. Daniels

[I wrote this at 5:15 but ran into the "google posting limit"]

Have I been speaking in prose all my life? I simply open a new tab in
IE and go to groups.google.com, and there are all my six newsgroups --
the NY subways one, the linguistics one, the classical music one, the
cryptic crosswords one, and this one (plus the fonts group that gets a
post once in a blue moon).

And this afternoon, suddenly there's a flood of messages here, all of
them claiming to have been posted in the last half hour, which seems
unlikely. Someone at MS must have turned the tap back on.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I did think the timing of the messages was suspect, but ours not to reason
why.

FWIW, if you post to Usenet directly with an NNTP newsreader, there is no
"posting limit." <g>

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

Peter T. Daniels said:
[I wrote this at 5:15 but ran into the "google posting limit"]

Have I been speaking in prose all my life? I simply open a new tab in
IE and go to groups.google.com, and there are all my six newsgroups --
the NY subways one, the linguistics one, the classical music one, the
cryptic crosswords one, and this one (plus the fonts group that gets a
post once in a blue moon).

And this afternoon, suddenly there's a flood of messages here, all of
them claiming to have been posted in the last half hour, which seems
unlikely. Someone at MS must have turned the tap back on.

But Peter eschews newsreaders.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org
 
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Stefan Blom

It would be terrible if the "points" are supposed to decide who are the "best"
contributor.
 
P

Peter T. Daniels

In

Today is 6-2: Lots of posts dated 6-2.

Did you manage to miss the 28 responses posted in this thread before
you posted yours?

As well as the fact, mentioned in this thread, that 40-odd postings
suddenly appeared the next afternoon, all dated as though they had
just been posted?
 

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