Still Cannot Add Network Printer - Access Denied

[Rusty H]

I think I have tried everything that's been suggested, but still have no
luck sharing a printer attached to XP Home with VISTA (Ulitmate 5728, but
didn't work with previous builds either). The printer works when directly
attached to VISTA. The VISTA pc is dual boot with XP home and there are no
issues XP Home to XP Home. I haven't found any way to "dumb down" VISTA
Ulitmate to a "home" version.

Also this is a Local Port
(it just uses the file system and the redirector service to copy the data
to the network).

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

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That should have said "\\computer_name\shared_printer_name"

I forgot the two backslashes at the start.

 

[BigK]

Guys,

Sitting here blaming microsoft is easy. they get blamed for everything in
the pc world so why not this too. We're all barking up the wrong tree.
It's
the Hardware MAnufacturers we've gotta go after here. they're the ones
writing the crappy drivers and such, not MS.

This might be true if it was one or two manufacturers. But I have yet to
hear of ANYONE using Vista to connect to a network shared printer connected
to a XP Home PC. If I am wrong please tell lus how you did with detailed,
step-by-step instructions.

 

[Guest]

I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not what i'm
saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember that MS in NOT
responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone that i've seen here
is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and Lexmark. Their the
ones we should be going after. the need to write drivers that are going to
install in vista when you try to connect to a network printer. Same thing
occurs in XP. different versions (Pro, HOME, MCE, etc. , don't like
networking either. their not alone. You ever tried to network a AIO printer
in LINUX? Have fun!!! I never could get it to work because you're talking
about 2 totally different OS. Essentialy that's what we're dealing with.
Vista and XP are similar in a lot of ways but, they are 2 different OS. Not
to mention the whole USB thing. The whole point in usb is that you have to
physically plug in the hardware you are gonna use. Kinda hard to do that on
a network unless u got a router that has a USB port u can physically connect
a printer to. Try PHysically pluging the printer into the vista box and
letting vista load the drivers. then change the port to you're XP machine's
ip address and printer name. it should work as vista isn't having to
replicate drivers from the XP machine. I''m gonna try it and let you know
how i make out.

 

[Lang Murphy]

You'd have to re-install it and select Home version... don't put in a
product key and click next and then pick the version you want to install and
click the "I have selected the version of Windows I purchased" checkbox.
Only drawback is you can only play with other versions for 14 days and then
you'll either have to have a valid key for whichever version you chose to
install or you'll have to do a clean re-install of Vista.

Lang

I think I have tried everything that's been suggested, but still have no
luck sharing a printer attached to XP Home with VISTA (Ulitmate 5728, but
didn't work with previous builds either). The printer works when directly
attached to VISTA. The VISTA pc is dual boot with XP home and there are no
issues XP Home to XP Home. I haven't found any way to "dumb down" VISTA
Ulitmate to a "home" version.

Also this is a Local Port
(it just uses the file system and the redirector service to copy the data
to the network).

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

That should have said "\\computer_name\shared_printer_name"

I forgot the two backslashes at the start.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Kerry Brown wrote:
I think I wrote the post you are referring to. I wasn't that clear I
guess. If the XP drivers will work in Vista then the printer can be
installed remotely. In most cases the XP drivers won't work. The
workaround would be to install the printer on the Vista computer with
Vista drivers. Once it's installed and working then you can connect
the printer back to the original computer. On the Vista computer go
in to the printer properties and on the Ports tab add a new network
port as in "computer_name\shared_printer_name". Again this may or may
not work. Some drivers for USB printers or all in one units won't
work properly with Windows networking. Sometimes you can turn off the
monitoring software and it'll start working.
It sounds like there may be an authentication problem with XP Home
happening as well. I don't have a computer with XP home on it to test.


Okay, Here's the word from the other thread on Network and sharing,
You Can't do it because the XP Drivers WIL NOT INSTALL ON VISTA
REMOTELY. From
what I gather, this means any version of XP, PRo Home, etc. You
actually need to install the Printer onto Vista and then configure
the ports after. Or Something like that. For more info just read
the thread on Network & Sharing entitled Cannot ad Printer- Access
Denied. "Lang Murphy" wrote:

OK... I just assumed that since I couldn't get to a shared printer
on XP Home, but could on XP Pro, that Home was the issue. And it
could still be an
issue; you may have other issues that are preventing you from
sharing a net
printer on XP Pro. Just a thought...

Lang

message I think, with this concentration on XP Home, you are barking up a
wrong tree.
The people using XP Pro have exactly the very same problem.
I am one of them.

It is impracticable for me ta attach the printer to the Vista
machine. But I am sure it will be accessible to the XP machines.
By the way my USB
printer (Brother HL2030) installs OK on the Vista Machine.
Surely this is a Fudgey solution.
Certain people have multifunction printers, they would not like
having to
access all those copier and scan functions over tne lan.

Georgio

Oh well, Just an idea. I've got a similar post undr the network &
Sharing
forum and someone there had mentioned it. They also mentioned the
guest
acct
in XP home being how it "shares the printer." You might wanna try
enabling
it on Vista. Again, just an Idea. It didn't work for me, but who
knows?
You might have better luck. Let me know.

Regards,
Jordan

:

My uneducated guess would be that Vista Home Edition -might-
support "simple
file sharing". Since most of us are evaluating Vista Ultimate...
I think
not.

Lang


You Guys aren't alone, I've also got the same issue. I'm
wondering
if
it's
because XP HOME edition uses "Simple file sharing"(lol) and
Vista is
actually
running "Network Discovery" witch is reallty tantamount to XP
PRO File
Sharing. Anybody know how to turn Simple File Sharing on in
Vista? Can
You?

:

Another "Me Too" - I cannot find a way to share the XPHome
printer with
VISTA. However, file sharing works fine.


Built an XP Pro PC today... hung the printer off it... shared
the
printer... assigned it as a network printer in Vista 5728
without a
problem. So... I have to assume XP Home is the source of the
problem.

Lang

I am still having this issue and have not yet found an
answer. I have
found many, many people asking the same question so this is
apparently
a
widespread problem.

I have a Windows XP Home computer with 2 printers installed.
I have
been
able to print to them when I had XP MCE on my laptop. Now
with Vista
I
cannot.

I have both machines with the same Network Workgroup. I have
them
all
on
static IPs connected to a Linksys WRT54G Router. My laptop
is connected
via an Intel 2200 Wi-Fi Adapter. Both computers have the
same User
name
and both have the same password.

When I try to add the printers via add printer wizard, it
sees both
printers but when I try to actually install them it tries to
connect
and
says Access Denied.

I also tried to just browse to the computer and right click
on the
shared
printers and chose connect. Still Access Denied.

Anyone who had this find a solution? Anyone know how to
solve this.
If
you do, I bet you could make many dozens of people, hundreds
of people
happy.

Thanks.

BTW I am using 5728

 

[BigK]

I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not what i'm
saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember that MS in NOT
responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone that i've seen
here
is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and Lexmark. Their
the
ones we should be going after.

I have an Epson and a Samsung. so if ALL printers are affected then it
might not be the printer companies that are having the problem. It seems
that the one common denominator is Vista trying to access XP Home. That is
MS's fault.

 

[Guest]

Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta and RC1
TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember, but XP wasn't
any great shakes either when it first came out.

Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to throw blame
around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP home machine
yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try and see what we
can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for what isn't
solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people when there
really isn't any reason for one.

 

[BigK]

Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta and RC1
TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember, but XP
wasn't
any great shakes either when it first came out.

Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to throw blame
around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP home
machine
yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try and see what
we
can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for what isn't
solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people when
there
really isn't any reason for one.

Sorry, but I've tried everything that has been advised. And none of it has
worked. I'm downloading the latest RC2 now so we'll see if Vista RC2 has
fixed this problem. I don't know why I can see shared folders and printers
but cannot connect to printers. Someone says it is becasue of the way XP
shares printers but there have been no solutions yet that have worked for
anyone I've seen yet.

 

[Guest]

No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really starting to get
frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and mighty
. I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up now. Had to
do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept complaining about
the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!

Regards,
Jordan

 

[Rusty H]

RC2 didn't fix this issue on my network.

No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really starting to
get
frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and mighty
. I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up now. Had
to
do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept complaining
about
the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!

Regards,
Jordan

 

[Guest]

So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change. I
really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably 60% of
the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's gonna
really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag they're
asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree with BigK,
No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!

 

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
machine?

E:\>dir \\server\print$
Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
Directory of \\server\print$
..
12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64


If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
share.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

 

[Guest]

Ok
Thanks for the tip, now how do I tell?
I'm not sure how to even acces the screen you're showing there.

Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
machine?

E:\>dir \\server\print$
Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
Directory of \\server\print$
..
12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64


If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
share.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change. I
really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably 60%
of
the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
gonna
really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag they're
asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree with
BigK,
No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!

 

[Guest]

OK, Scratch that last post, I just figured it out,
Same Error. Access denied. Where would I go to Change the Share on XP Home?

Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
machine?

E:\>dir \\server\print$
Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
Directory of \\server\print$
..
12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64


If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
share.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change. I
really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably 60%
of
the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
gonna
really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag they're
asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree with
BigK,
No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!

 

[Rev]

Big K,

I can't say if this will help, but might be worth looking at.

I was missing access to network drives. Wouldn't let me log on, show
directories, etc.

I researched on Knowledgebase and came up with stuff on the IRPStackSize
setting
in the Registry. That setting has to do with providing memory for shares,
etc.

I added and entry, increased it from what was standard and things started
working.

Since the printer also involves shares I wonder if there could be a
connection.

Good luck!!

Rev

 

[BigK]

OK, Scratch that last post, I just figured it out,
Same Error. Access denied. Where would I go to Change the Share on XP
Home?

Everyone that has given me this tip says do it in the "security" tab under
the printer properties. But Home does not have this tab. So is there some
other way to do this in Home? If so, please offer good instructions in step
by step or a link to a site that gives such.

Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
machine?

E:\>dir \\server\print$
Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
Directory of \\server\print$
..
12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64


If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
share.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change.
I
really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably
60%
of
the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
gonna
really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag
they're
asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree with
BigK,
No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!

:

RC2 didn't fix this issue on my network.


No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really
starting
to
get
frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and
mighty
. I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up now.
Had
to
do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept
complaining
about
the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!

Regards,
Jordan

:


Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta
and
RC1
TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember, but
XP
wasn't
any great shakes either when it first came out.

Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to
throw
blame
around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP
home
machine
yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try and
see
what
we
can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for
what
isn't
solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people
when
there
really isn't any reason for one.

Sorry, but I've tried everything that has been advised. And none
of
it
has
worked. I'm downloading the latest RC2 now so we'll see if Vista
RC2
has
fixed this problem. I don't know why I can see shared folders and
printers
but cannot connect to printers. Someone says it is becasue of the
way
XP
shares printers but there have been no solutions yet that have
worked
for
anyone I've seen yet.



:


I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not
what
i'm
saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember
that
MS
in
NOT
responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone that
i've
seen
here
is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and
Lexmark.
Their
the
ones we should be going after.

I have an Epson and a Samsung. so if ALL printers are affected
then
it
might not be the printer companies that are having the problem.
It
seems
that the one common denominator is Vista trying to access XP
Home.
That
is
MS's fault.

 

[BigK]

Big K,

I can't say if this will help, but might be worth looking at.

I was missing access to network drives. Wouldn't let me log on, show
directories, etc.

I researched on Knowledgebase and came up with stuff on the IRPStackSize
setting
in the Registry. That setting has to do with providing memory for shares,
etc.

I added and entry, increased it from what was standard and things started
working.

Since the printer also involves shares I wonder if there could be a
connection.

Thanks for the tip. I doubt that's the issue since I CAN access files and
folders on the Home machine. But since it might be, where do I find this in
the reg and what do I change and what do I change it to?

 

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

It's not a printer setting, it's a server share, file setting.

I think you will need to turn off Simple File Sharing (any explorer windows,
uncheck [I am on a domain so do not have this OS] ), then open the system
drive, drill down to \windows\system32\spool\drivers. Hold down the shift
key, select the folder, right click and set sharing permissions. Give
"Everyone" Read access.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

OK, Scratch that last post, I just figured it out,
Same Error. Access denied. Where would I go to Change the Share on XP
Home?

Everyone that has given me this tip says do it in the "security" tab under
the printer properties. But Home does not have this tab. So is there
some other way to do this in Home? If so, please offer good instructions
in step by step or a link to a site that gives such.

Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
machine?

E:\>dir \\server\print$
Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
Directory of \\server\print$
..
12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64


If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
share.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change.
I
really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably
60%
of
the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
gonna
really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag
they're
asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree
with
BigK,
No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!

:

RC2 didn't fix this issue on my network.


No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really
starting
to
get
frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and
mighty
. I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up
now.
Had
to
do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept
complaining
about
the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!

Regards,
Jordan

:


Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta
and
RC1
TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember,
but XP
wasn't
any great shakes either when it first came out.

Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to
throw
blame
around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP
home
machine
yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try
and
see
what
we
can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for
what
isn't
solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people
when
there
really isn't any reason for one.

Sorry, but I've tried everything that has been advised. And none
of
it
has
worked. I'm downloading the latest RC2 now so we'll see if Vista
RC2
has
fixed this problem. I don't know why I can see shared folders and
printers
but cannot connect to printers. Someone says it is becasue of the
way
XP
shares printers but there have been no solutions yet that have
worked
for
anyone I've seen yet.



:


message
I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not
what
i'm
saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember
that
MS
in
NOT
responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone
that
i've
seen
here
is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and
Lexmark.
Their
the
ones we should be going after.

I have an Epson and a Samsung. so if ALL printers are affected
then
it
might not be the printer companies that are having the problem.
It
seems
that the one common denominator is Vista trying to access XP
Home.
That
is
MS's fault.

 

[Rev]

Big K,

If you want to research further, and for full instructions -- go
to M$ Knowledgebase and search for "IRPStackSize".

It will give you a number of different situations related to
that parameter and affecting networking, etc.

Rev

 

[Guest]

BigK,

You'll be happy to know that i've gone ahead and submitted a bug rport on
this whole mess. After all it really doesn't sound like anyone from MS is
reading these forums at all so... Anyway, I will report back as soon as I
hear anything. Best of luck and let me know if you figure this out. I'll
Even send you the cash for a drink on me!!

Regards,
Jordan

 

[Guest]

OK, I'm wondering if anyone at MS is really listening to these forums or
bug reports. I submitted a bug report on this problem over a week ago and
still nothing. Nobody seems to have any concrete solutions on the forums
either. all the stuff that's been said has been for XP PRO. We aren't even
talking about that OS. we're talking about XP HOME. you can't adjust
permission can't change F&PS settings nothing. What are we supposed to do?
UPgrade everything to pro? I'm sorry but I can't justify the price just to
get the printer to work. Why won't anyone listen?