Startup error or something more?

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Guest

I hope i'm in the right area. I recently updated my wifes compaq presario
2100 with the sp2 pack. Today she went to start it up and it no longer shows
her login name at the startup screen. Her login was 'home' with no password
assigned. I hit crtl+alt+del and tried logging in that way. It keeps asking
for a password for the 'home' login. But there isnt one assigned! Help me
please i dont know what to do
 
R

Rock

Richards said:
I hope i'm in the right area. I recently updated my wifes compaq presario
2100 with the sp2 pack. Today she went to start it up and it no longer
shows
her login name at the startup screen. Her login was 'home' with no
password
assigned. I hit crtl+alt+del and tried logging in that way. It keeps
asking
for a password for the 'home' login. But there isnt one assigned! Help me
please i dont know what to do

XP Home or Pro? If Pro from ctrl-alt-del type in Administrator and enter
the password assigned to that account when XP was installed or try a blank
password. If that gets you in to to the user accounts applet in control
panel and change the password on her account.

If XP Home start in Safe Mode. Restart the computer, as the BIOS splash
screen disappears repeatedly tap the F8 key until the Advanced Options menu
appears including Safe Mode as one option. Choose that. At the welcome
screen the Administrator account should be displayed. Normally that
password is blank. Once in set a password on her account.

If you can't get in reset the Administrator password using this utility.
http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/editor.html
 
M

mikeyhsd

did you try hitting the enter key when it asks for password.



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I hope i'm in the right area. I recently updated my wifes compaq presario
2100 with the sp2 pack. Today she went to start it up and it no longer shows
her login name at the startup screen. Her login was 'home' with no password
assigned. I hit crtl+alt+del and tried logging in that way. It keeps asking
for a password for the 'home' login. But there isnt one assigned! Help me
please i dont know what to do
 
P

Poprivet

Rock said:
XP Home or Pro? If Pro from ctrl-alt-del type in Administrator and
enter the password assigned to that account when XP was installed or
try a blank password. If that gets you in to to the user accounts
applet in control panel and change the password on her account.

If XP Home start in Safe Mode. Restart the computer, as the BIOS
splash screen disappears repeatedly tap the F8 key until the Advanced
Options menu appears including Safe Mode as one option. Choose that.
At the welcome screen the Administrator account should be displayed.
Normally that password is blank. Once in set a password on her
account.
If you can't get in reset the Administrator password using this
utility. http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/editor.html

Except, the author says that software is ALPHA and not even BETA, and big
disclaimers and all that, saying he's "working" on it,but that was
apparently last June. Looks to me like he's more interested in playing with
Vista than taking care of business in his installed base. Bad practices.
Not sure I'd trust that software on any machine I had to work on. Better
to reinstall from archives or better re-image.

Just my two cents. Never rely on an ALPHA software, IMO.

Pop`
 
G

Guest

Ok i know all about safe mode and stuff like that. I am not a newbie when it
comes to computers. Let me explain in more detail whats going on.
By the way it is XP Home edition. My wife bought it at a BEst Buy a couple
of years ago and they set it up for her. They gave her the login name of
"home" with no password assigned. She had never done updates on it. When i
got a hold of it it needed over 60 critical updates. All those went fine. I
finally got around to installing the service pack 2 about 2 or 3 days ago. I
let it install and reboot like normal and everything was fine. So i shut it
down and left it for her till the next day since i did this late at night.
When she went to start up the computer the next day she said she couldnt log
in. I checked it out and at the Welcome Screen where you normally have the
little icon with the user name next to it isnt there. The only thing you can
click on is "turn off Computer". There is nothing else. pressing crtl+alt+del
a couple of times brings up a xp pro style login which i tried again to log
in under. neither her "home" login or the admin login will work. I have tried
safe mode and its the same thing. Its dumbfounding to say the least. I have
never seen anything like this. If you need more info let me know.
 
R

Rock

Poprivet said:
Except, the author says that software is ALPHA and not even BETA, and big
disclaimers and all that, saying he's "working" on it,but that was
apparently last June. Looks to me like he's more interested in playing
with Vista than taking care of business in his installed base. Bad
practices.
Not sure I'd trust that software on any machine I had to work on.
Better to reinstall from archives or better re-image.

Just my two cents. Never rely on an ALPHA software, IMO.

AFAIK that password utility has been around for some time with many people
recommending it. I have recommended it numerous times in the past and folks
have posted back success. How can one rely on an image to restore the
system if one doesn't have an image? I'm going on what the OP posted.
 
R

Rock

Richards said:
Ok i know all about safe mode and stuff like that. I am not a newbie when
it
comes to computers. Let me explain in more detail whats going on.
By the way it is XP Home edition. My wife bought it at a BEst Buy a couple
of years ago and they set it up for her. They gave her the login name of
"home" with no password assigned. She had never done updates on it. When i
got a hold of it it needed over 60 critical updates. All those went fine.
I
finally got around to installing the service pack 2 about 2 or 3 days ago.
I
let it install and reboot like normal and everything was fine. So i shut
it
down and left it for her till the next day since i did this late at night.
When she went to start up the computer the next day she said she couldnt
log
in. I checked it out and at the Welcome Screen where you normally have the
little icon with the user name next to it isnt there. The only thing you
can
click on is "turn off Computer". There is nothing else. pressing
crtl+alt+del
a couple of times brings up a xp pro style login which i tried again to
log
in under. neither her "home" login or the admin login will work. I have
tried
safe mode and its the same thing. Its dumbfounding to say the least. I
have
never seen anything like this. If you need more info let me know.


Ok but your post didn't state whether you had tried Safe Mode. Had you
tried Safe Mode before posting your original question?

It's still no clear what all you have tried. For XP Home the only way to
login to the built in Administrator account is through safe mode; I gather
from your post that that no accounts show up on the Welcome Screen in Safe
Mode either, right? Does ctrl-al-del twice in Safe Mode bring up the
classic login box? Did you try Administrator as the account and leaving the
password blank?

If that doesn't work, but in Safe Mode you can bring up the classic login
box then I think it's worth a shot to reset the password on the built in
Administrator account.

I would ask first if the data is backed up. If not do that first. Here are
some options on how to do that.

1. Take the drive out of the computer and install it as a slave drive in
another Windows XP or 2000 computer. It should read the drive ok, so you can
copy the data.

2. Create a bootable Bart's PE disk, boot from that, then copy the data to
external USB drive or flash drive.

3. Download a bootable Linux distro called Knoppix. Create a bootable CD
from that, boot from it, and copy the data to USB drive or flash drive, or
if the computer has two CD drives, one of which is a burner, then use the
k3b burning program on the Knoppix CD to burn the data to CD.

4. Take it to a competent computer tech to backup the data.

After that I would try the password utility I posted to reset the password
on the built in Administrator account to see if you can login in Safe Mode.
Unfortunately I've seen a few cases posted where that didn't work either.

If that's no go here is an article on how to remove SP2. If the system
won't boot then the only option to try in this article is the recovery
console method.

How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=875350

If that doesn't work the options are fast decreasing. Unless someone else
can come up with some suggestions the next steps would be a repair install,
and if that's no go, then of course a clean install.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
 

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