SSD or HD for Win7

[Guillaume Tello]

Hello,

I have built a PC for a gamer friend (Core I5, 8BG Ram 1600, Asus P8
mother board)
She bought a SSD 60BG and a HD 320GB/7200. She wants to play WOW...

My question is where should I install the system (WIndows 7 64 bits) ?

- W7 on the HD and WOW on the SSD ? (60GB enough for WOW..?)
- W7 on the SSD and WOW on the HD ? (60GB enough for W7..?)
- W7 and WOW on the HD and ReadyBoost on the SSD ?

What is your opinion?

Thanks!

Guillaume.

 

[ToolPackinMama]

Hello,

I have built a PC for a gamer friend (Core I5, 8BG Ram 1600, Asus P8
mother board)
She bought a SSD 60BG and a HD 320GB/7200. She wants to play WOW...

My question is where should I install the system (WIndows 7 64 bits) ?

- W7 on the HD and WOW on the SSD ? (60GB enough for WOW..?)
- W7 on the SSD and WOW on the HD ? (60GB enough for W7..?)
- W7 and WOW on the HD and ReadyBoost on the SSD ?

What is your opinion?

WOW is not very demanding, resources-wise. For WOW it doesn't matter
that much.

 

[Paul]

Hello,

I have built a PC for a gamer friend (Core I5, 8BG Ram 1600, Asus P8
mother board)
She bought a SSD 60BG and a HD 320GB/7200. She wants to play WOW...

My question is where should I install the system (WIndows 7 64 bits) ?

- W7 on the HD and WOW on the SSD ? (60GB enough for WOW..?)
- W7 on the SSD and WOW on the HD ? (60GB enough for W7..?)
- W7 and WOW on the HD and ReadyBoost on the SSD ?

What is your opinion?

Thanks!

Guillaume.

The C: on my Win7 right now is 26GB, and according to this, WOW can be
in the 8GB range (with an expansion pack). So that would be 34GB,
ignoring a bit of space for System Restore points (say another 3GB).

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080504015219AAPynTF

To answer the question, it might be a good idea to ask the
owner, how the current C: drive is filled. To see which configuration
might be best. A review using SequoiaView (graphical view of filesystem),
might tell you whether C: tends to get bloated with stuff or not.

http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/onderzoek_informatica/visualization/sequoiaview//

Paul

 

[TVeblen]

Hello,

I have built a PC for a gamer friend (Core I5, 8BG Ram 1600, Asus P8
mother board)
She bought a SSD 60BG and a HD 320GB/7200. She wants to play WOW...

My question is where should I install the system (WIndows 7 64 bits) ?

- W7 on the HD and WOW on the SSD ? (60GB enough for WOW..?)
- W7 on the SSD and WOW on the HD ? (60GB enough for W7..?)
- W7 and WOW on the HD and ReadyBoost on the SSD ?

What is your opinion?

Thanks!

Guillaume.

Windows 7 on the SSD, no question here. The OS performs beautifully on
the faster drive and the owner will be amazed with boot times and
overall performance.

WOW - no experience here.

The rule of thumb is to minimize programs that write to the SSD, as the
lifespan of these drives is measured in write cycles.

So you install Windows on the SSD, but point the page file, restore
points, etc to the spinner.

 

[Guillaume Tello]

Le 24/12/2011 17:00, TVeblen a écrit :

Windows 7 on the SSD, no question here. The OS performs beautifully on
the faster drive and the owner will be amazed with boot times and
overall performance.

WOW - no experience here.

The rule of thumb is to minimize programs that write to the SSD, as the
lifespan of these drives is measured in write cycles.

So you install Windows on the SSD, but point the page file, restore
points, etc to the spinner.

Okay, thanks for your advises!
I will put the OS on the SSD, redirect everything I can on the HD, and
it will be ok.

Guillaume.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Hello,

I have built a PC for a gamer friend (Core I5, 8BG Ram 1600, Asus P8
mother board)
She bought a SSD 60BG and a HD 320GB/7200. She wants to play WOW...

My question is where should I install the system (WIndows 7 64 bits) ?

- W7 on the HD and WOW on the SSD ? (60GB enough for WOW..?)
- W7 on the SSD and WOW on the HD ? (60GB enough for W7..?)
- W7 and WOW on the HD and ReadyBoost on the SSD ?

What is your opinion?

I think you'll have enough for W7 and WOW on the SSD here.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The rule of thumb is to minimize programs that write to the SSD, as the
lifespan of these drives is measured in write cycles.

So you install Windows on the SSD, but point the page file, restore
points, etc to the spinner.

SSDlife:

Work time: 7125 hours (9 months 26 days 21 hours)
Health: 100%.

Estimated lifetime: 9 years 2 months 15 days.


(I've been getting exactly the same answer since I first checked. The
"lifetime" is 10 years from when I started using it, I don't think
it's actually going to use up it's write life at that point.)

Admittedly it makes very little use of the page file as I have 24gb in
the box.

 

[ting]

Hello,

I have built a PC for a gamer friend (Core I5, 8BG Ram 1600, Asus P8
mother board)
She bought a SSD 60BG and a HD 320GB/7200. She wants to play WOW...

My question is where should I install the system (WIndows 7 64 bits) ?

- W7 on the HD and WOW on the SSD ? (60GB enough for WOW..?)
- W7 on the SSD and WOW on the HD ? (60GB enough for W7..?)
- W7 and WOW on the HD and ReadyBoost on the SSD ?

What is your opinion?

Thanks!

Guillaume.

Put WoW on your SSD, no question. You will notice the difference a lot
more during game play.

Everytime you change zones, WoW loads the zone off of disk, and you
are comstantly changing zones. The load time is typically 10 to 30
seconds, depending upon the zone, when using a HD. Throw WoW on the
SSD and those load times go down to 1-2 seconds. I cannot emphasise
enough the frequency you are changing zones and how often WoW reads
from the disk.

Conversely, W7 on the SSD primarily affects you boot times, but you
only boot your computer once a day. During actual game play, W7 itself
is not reading from the drives.

Don't believe me? Ask this question in the alt.games.warcraft
newsgroup.

 

[ting]

        Okay, thanks for your advises!
        I will put the OS on the SSD, redirect everything I can on the HD, and
it will be ok.

No. Put WoW on the SSD. Your friend boots up her computer only once
per day for a whooping 5 minutes at most. Once booted, W7 hardly ever
reads from the drive.

Conversely, she is playing WoW for 2-4 hours a day, and WoW is
constantly reading from the disk. No question, put WoW on the SSD
first, and if theres enough room left over, them put W7 on the SSD,
but notice the order there.

You've never played WoW, so you don't understand this point of view,
but WoW reads from the disk all pf the time, and people who play the
game will do so for hours at a time. The operating system might as
well not exist for them, because that's how little time they spend in
it.

Alt.games.warcraft has real life experiences of people who have used a
SSD. A quick search and you'll find several posts on this subject.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No. Put WoW on the SSD. Your friend boots up her computer only once
per day for a whooping 5 minutes at most. Once booted, W7 hardly ever
reads from the drive.

Conversely, she is playing WoW for 2-4 hours a day, and WoW is
constantly reading from the disk. No question, put WoW on the SSD
first, and if theres enough room left over, them put W7 on the SSD,
but notice the order there.

You've never played WoW, so you don't understand this point of view,
but WoW reads from the disk all pf the time, and people who play the
game will do so for hours at a time. The operating system might as
well not exist for them, because that's how little time they spend in
it.

Alt.games.warcraft has real life experiences of people who have used a
SSD. A quick search and you'll find several posts on this subject.

Second this. I don't play WoW but I do play DDO and having it on the
SSD sure saves time on zoning. There's one spot where everyone zones
at the same time and I'm almost always the first one to move in the
new zone.

 

[Flasherly]

The rule of thumb is to minimize programs that write to the SSD, as the
lifespan of these drives is measured in write cycles.

Find every OS resource that needn't be changed -- importantly, forever
& ever, rewrite Windows for its original deviancy from DOS and into
Microsoft's all-encompassing C:\WINDOWS default environmental
containment (SUBST or SHARE were chewed into mince by networking
clouds) -- then take that baby, tag all the files if not better, the
SSD's entire drive's write tag then for READ ONLY, make one
monstrously big NUL file to similarly take up the rest of the drive,
and put a residual normally reserved for conventional manipulations
aside on a platter drive. Rest is just averages across largely read
operations during a two-drive load. Hells bells, Ringo, might only
add a few acceptable seconds to the mantra of 7-sec OS loads, so
highly touted by SSD owners, those whom aren't experiencing any
trouble from clogged electrons in the early scheme of drives
physically differing from direct processor addressed system memory;-
Whilst that lasts -- platters may be headed down the Road of Obsolesce.

 

[Guillaume Tello]

Le 25/12/2011 16:39, (e-mail address removed) a écrit :

Put WoW on your SSD, no question. You will notice the difference a lot
more during game play.

Everytime you change zones, WoW loads the zone off of disk, and you
are comstantly changing zones. The load time is typically 10 to 30
seconds, depending upon the zone, when using a HD. Throw WoW on the
SSD and those load times go down to 1-2 seconds. I cannot emphasise
enough the frequency you are changing zones and how often WoW reads
from the disk.

Hello to all,

Thanks for your answers!
Finally, I installed both W7 and WOW on the SSD, redirecting some
folders on the HD (other programs, documents, temporary files, etc).

The PC works great and is very reactive.
As you said, changing zones in Wow is really fast now.

Guillaume.