Spyware Removed ALL kazza music

[Tom H]

You went out of your way to attempt to cause
someone pain. You get off on that?

JR, if you are asserting that the guy is so emotionally bankrupt as to
actually feel pain because of my post about his post in an NNTP newsgroup,
what you are implying about the guy is a million times worse than anything
that could be inferred from my opinion. Your assumption that he is pained
by my opinion, as opposed to say, finding it laughable, presupposes that he
sees derogatory opinions of him as valid.
Pull yourself together man, get back on topic. Who put a quarter in your
slot, anway? Wouldn't you be happier hanging around another kind of
newsgroup --- try alt.phony.snivelling, or maybe alt.emotional.smarmy.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Thanks for the post, and I'm sorry you had this experience.

I'm interested in the difficulty that the undelete programs had in finding
anything. (I'm interested in the deletion issue, as well, of course, but I
think that is amply documented here!)

Does the free disk space accurately reflect your loss--do you think?

I haven't dug deeply into what happens when this program quarantines
something--there's a quarantine folder in the folder the program is
installed in, and beneath that are GUID-like-named folders, but I don't
have enough of a sample to know whether there's stuff in them that can just
be copied back.

What it comes down to is that I find it a little surprising that nothing
seems to be recoverable. I doubt that this is due to intentional effort on
the part of the program, but maybe there's some limitation on the recovery
tools...

 

[Jim Nugent]

I just had the same problem. I have a ton of personal
recordings in my Kazaa shared folder and this so-called
antispyware deleted everything.

I don't know anything about Kazaa, so I'll ask:

1. Was you "Kazaa shared folder" stored under the Kazaa folder under
\Program Files? If so, this is a bad idea for a lot of reasons. Windows
(newer versions at least) is designed so that you can keep your data
separate from your programs. Your Kazaa *data* folder should be somewhere
under \Documents and Settings\You\, such as My Documents, Application Data,
etc. If MSAS deleted your Kazaa directory, this would have prevented the
data loss.

2. Was this a manual scan and did you look at the results. Did you consider
changing the dropdown from "Remove" to "Ignore?" for Kazaa?

If the scan was scheduled and therefore unattended, did you leave the check
next to "automatically quarantine spyware." It's there to prevent this
situation as the program takes action without your interaction.

 

[Jim Nugent]

I suppose I should add that when MS-AS realizes it is about to delete 500MB
of stuff, it should provide an extra warning as spyware cleanup does not
generally involve this.

 

[Adam]

What's with the really sarcastic childish replies? I mean
commenting on a typo? grow up guys.

Regardless of what is in the My Shared Folder (Which is a
folder to share your documents (personal or borrowed),
the fact remains that there is a problem with the
Antispyware.
Bill, if you would like any help on this, please email
me, I have screenshots and I can run an Undelete program
for you and show you folders it has.
(In the quaranteen folder, which i saw when it initially
quaranteened My Shared Folder, I noticed that a
e6ee67a7e7a8-78ea987ea.whatever file had been created for
everything it had quaranteened). There was one of these
for every music,video and image.

IT seems the problem isn't the initial quaranteen or
recovery (this works fine). It might be to do with the
autorun which is defaulted to 2am. Everyone who has the
problem says they recovered ok, but the next time they
came to their computer it was all gone.


Hope that helps.

 

[Adam]

I don't think anyone expected the System Restore to
backup all files. Its just typical that the Spyware
deleted way more than it needed to, and the System
Restore backsup less than would have helped in that
situation

 

[Adam]

Jim,
Yes I placed Kazaa in my Ignore Threat area and I'd
actually disabled the automatic schedule. Thanks for the
ideas.

Like I said, it all worked fine initially, (on my first
manual scan after installing). It quaranteened Kazaa.
Then I realised it had, so I unquaranteened it. Placed
Kazaa on ignore list.
Next day.. all gone.
The last scan that had run was the scan I did initially,
it does not report any further scan.

You must excuse me for being angry... wouldn't you be?

Regardless of all the clever ideas about "well you
shouldn't leave your kazaa folder there", the fact
remains that most WILL leave it there because that's
where it gets installed. This bug will affect the
majority which is why it should be classed as a critical
one.

 

[Adam]

What's with this whole "You use Kazaa so your a criminal"
thing?

Your shared folder can store anything, so you can share
your own files.
Also, I do buy lots and lots of CDs. Now, if I want to go
and download a song (which I already have) from kazaa
because it takes 30 seconds and is quicker than me
fetching the bloody CD from the car, and burning the
track, then I will do that. If I want to download a song
I've been searching for a long time and it's on kazaa,
I'm downloading it. I don't care if I've taken a free
music file because I know I buy my fair share of music
and DVDs legally and the percentage I get from kazaa a
tiny tiny percentage of these.

If I want to get a preview of a song or a few songs
before I get an album, I'm downloading them. If I like
the few I download I get the album. I love physically
owning things, I don't copy DVDS or CDS.

Oh yeah, I said I had about 400meg of files... that's
what... about 70 songs, some videos, some software.
That over 2 years? Is that really all that bad if 90% of
the songs I have are on CD aswell?

Your assuming who I am and what I do.

I know there are people out there with 60gb of music
files and are constantly trading. That's wrong.
I use it, I don't abuse it.

So when your done with your assumtions, lets get back to
finding out what caused the bug in hand and stop leaving
these stupid childish comments on people. This is for
fixing and identifying bugs.

Thanks for taking the time to read this rant.
Did I do some typos? I don't care and I'm not re-reading
this, I'm busy

 

[Adam]

Your obviously a techy and don't take into account home
users.

Well done

 

[Gunilla]

Sorry but I have to feed this Troll!

You are just so very ignorant to assume that all people have a spellcecker
installed and by the way, who says that all of the people posting to these
NG's have English as their default language!? If you are so intelligent you
should be aware of that and also
not nagging on someone because he/she is doing a miss in checking the
spelling.

Please have some understanding and try to be indulgent with peoples fault
wheter they are because of stress or not.

Regards.....Gunilla.

 

[Ron Chamberlin]

Hi Jim,

I don't know anything about Kazaa, so I'll ask:

1. Was you "Kazaa shared folder" stored under the Kazaa folder under
\Program Files?>

Yup. The default install puts it there.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP

 

[Gunilla]

Hi!

Maybe the clowns are from the same place as you come from!? Have you not
heard...clean out your own closet first?

Regards....Gunilla.