split harddrive (i think)

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paul3200

i have a hard drive that i think is split because there is a hard drive(C:)
and (F:)but i only have about 400MB of space left on hard drive (C:). But on
my hard drive (F:)there is 3.86GB. I want to know how i can download internet
downloads i.e. iTunes is it possible or what
 
M

Malke

paul3200 said:
i have a hard drive that i think is split because there is a hard
drive(C:) and (F:)but i only have about 400MB of space left on hard drive
(C:). But on my hard drive (F:)there is 3.86GB. I want to know how i can
download internet downloads i.e. iTunes is it possible or what

You don't have enough room on your hard drive. We also don't know what the
F: drive is. Because it is so small it sounds like it is an OEM recovery
partition. If this is the case, you need to leave it alone. It is there to
restore your computer to factory condition.

You left out some important information:

1. How large is your C: drive?
2. Is this an OEM machine? Desktop? Laptop?
3. Is F: really a restore partition?

Start making more room on your hard drive. Remove unwanted/unused programs.
Move data that doesn't need to be on the hard drive off to an external hard
drive. For instance, if you have tons of music and pictures, they don't
need to be on the hard drive.

More details from you will elicit more focused advice.

Malke
 
S

Shenan Stanley

paul3200 said:
i have a hard drive that i think is split because there is a hard
drive(C:) and (F:)but i only have about 400MB of space left on hard
drive (C:). But on my hard drive (F:)there is 3.86GB. I want to
know how i can download internet downloads i.e. iTunes is it
possible or what


How large is the entire physical hard disk drive?
(Google for "Disk Manager".)

In any case - it sounds like your system partition (usually C:) *is* too
small and you don't even really have enough space to justify using a third
party tool to take from other partitions of the physical hard disk drive and
add more space to the system partition IMHO.

My suggestion is for you to purchase a retail hard disk drive that will fit
in your computer and utilize the utility that it should come with that will
copy the old hard disk drive contents to the new hard disk drive for you.
If that fails - you might have to utilize something like Symantec/Norton
Ghost or TrueImage or BootItNG, etc.

Or you can attempt to cleanup that C drive - in case you just have it filled
with stuff you could copy to CD/external hard disk drive(s)...

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 128MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

If you are concerned over less than 5GB of space total at any given time
being freed up on your hard disk drive - then something is wrong and
you would be better off spending a little and putting in a drive that is
likely 3-8 times as large as what you have not and not concerning
yourself over such a small amount of space OR you seriously need
to consider what you really need on the system and what should be
archived.

Basic housekeeping 101... - in an actual home, if your storage area gets
full - you either have to decide what you really should have in the storage
area and what could go or you have to find a new place to store stuff
that will accommodate everything you need. You don't walk into a
warehouse of cars, look at the filing cabinet in the corner where
you keep all the records for the cars and decide that if you move it out of
the warehouse - you will have more room for cars. ;-)
 
P

paul3200

paul3200 said:
i have a hard drive that i think is split because there is a hard drive(C:)
and (F:)but i only have about 400MB of space left on hard drive (C:). But on
my hard drive (F:)there is 3.86GB. I want to know how i can download internet
downloads i.e. iTunes is it possible or what


when i got my computer restored by a computer fix it company it came back
with harddrive (C:) split in to (C:) and(F:).

harddrive(F:) had music and TV shows which include 'futurama' and 'the
simpsons '

harddrive (C:) has a total of 7.81GB. And hard drive (F:) has a total of
27.5 GB.
 
M

Malke

paul3200 said:
when i got my computer restored by a computer fix it company it came back
with harddrive (C:) split in to (C:) and(F:).

harddrive(F:) had music and TV shows which include 'futurama' and 'the
simpsons '

harddrive (C:) has a total of 7.81GB. And hard drive (F:) has a total of
27.5 GB.

Ooh, that's a *really* tiny hard drive. And the computer fixit company was
stupid to partition such a small drive. The best solution would be for you
replace the hard drive with a bigger one. Even if you have a laptop (which
you again forgot to tell us) you can buy a bigger one for not too much
money. In the meantime, make room on the drive as Shenan and I previously
suggested.

Malke
 
S

Shenan Stanley

paul3200 said:
i have a hard drive that i think is split because there is a hard
drive(C:) and (F:)but i only have about 400MB of space left on
hard drive (C:). But on my hard drive (F:)there is 3.86GB. I want
to know how i can download internet downloads i.e. iTunes is it
possible or what
when i got my computer restored by a computer fix it company it
came back with harddrive (C:) split in to (C:) and(F:).

harddrive(F:) had music and TV shows which include 'futurama' and
'the simpsons '

harddrive (C:) has a total of 7.81GB. And hard drive (F:) has a
total of 27.5 GB.

See my other response.

Technically - 7.8GB is enough for a basic Windows XP/Office installation if
you keep your stuff stored elsewhere (including your desktop/my documents)
and keep things clean/clear. However - I usually suggest 15+GB - with
30-40GB being better just for your system drive (drive Windows XP is
installed on/running from.)

Here is the repeat of the other advice...

In any case - it sounds like your system partition (usually C:) *is* too
small and you don't even really have enough space to justify using a third
party tool to take from other partitions of the physical hard disk drive and
add more space to the system partition IMHO.

My suggestion is for you to purchase a retail hard disk drive that will fit
in your computer and utilize the utility that it should come with that will
copy the old hard disk drive contents to the new hard disk drive for you.
If that fails - you might have to utilize something like Symantec/Norton
Ghost or TrueImage or BootItNG, etc.

Or you can attempt to cleanup that C drive - in case you just have it filled
with stuff you could copy to CD/external hard disk drive(s)...

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 128MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

If you are concerned over less than 5GB of space total at any given time
being freed up on your hard disk drive - then something is wrong and
you would be better off spending a little and putting in a drive that is
likely 3-8 times as large as what you have not and not concerning
yourself over such a small amount of space OR you seriously need
to consider what you really need on the system and what should be
archived.

Basic housekeeping 101... - in an actual home, if your storage area gets
full - you either have to decide what you really should have in the storage
area and what could go or you have to find a new place to store stuff
that will accommodate everything you need. You don't walk into a
warehouse of cars, look at the filing cabinet in the corner where
you keep all the records for the cars and decide that if you move it out of
the warehouse - you will have more room for cars. ;-)
 
P

paul3200

How big a hard drive should I be looking for.

also it is a PC but got it restored about 5-6 years ago
 
S

Shenan Stanley

paul3200 said:
How big a hard drive should I be looking for.

also it is a PC but got it restored about 5-6 years ago

You need to know what type of hard drive the motherboard can handle - what
size as well.

It may not be able to do anything more natively.
 
D

DL

Your current total hd is probably 40gb, think of a minimum 50gb, if you can
find one that small :)
If you intend to keep a seperate C partition it should be no less than 20gb,
and that assumes you install applications on your other partition
 

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