Speeding up Your Computer

L

Leythos

I'm not sure what W7 has to do with an XP comparison but I'd say probably
about 5 seconds for Ubunutu on your machine judging by your claim. No AV to
load, no firewall to load, no scans to run. The topic is how to speed up a
PC. I gave a valid method and that's no troll. Don't get me wrong, I used
to be a Windoze die-hard too but I decided that I'd had enough of having to
scan my family's machines every week for viruses, trojans, malware, spyware,
keyloggers, gawd knows what else, and enduring the performance hit that
these scans entail.

I have more than a dozen computers running windows in my home and that's
not counting the 7 servers running windows 2003/2008 that face the
internet.

I have a mix of Windows XP Prof, Vista Ultimate, Windows 7 Ultimate for
my Microsoft boxes.

I also have Fedora Core system and stopped using Ubuntu last year after
finding it slow and hard on resources with a slow video interface.

In my experience with computers, since the mid 70's, I've never had a
virus on any computer I own or manage, not once. In all the time that
I've been designing secure Windows based networks I've never had one
hacked, never had a computer compromised, and I've managed to pass ever
security audit the first pass without changes being needed - even audits
from DHS for Utility companies we work with.

Oh, and in case you think I'm missing something, I have three kids that
play many network games, use IM, etc... their systems have never been
compromised to date.
How long do your reckon before W7 SP1 is released?
I'm betting before Xmas.

Why does it matter, Ubuntu gets tons of updates too - every week there
were updates for the install, it's a simple thing and it's good when you
have a vendor that is responsive to system needs.
Guess again. I wish I owned the copyright to the phrase "Please wait", BG
would owe me his fortune.

I took a friend of a friend, was running XP directly connected to the
internet, they would not run as limited users, they had complete access
to all the games their kids liked, their Epson printers, etc... After
rebuilding their computer 5 times in 1 year I wiped it and installed
Ubuntu, setup FireFox, Web based email, Open Office, could not find a
working driver for their printer, so they bought an HP, and their kids
gave up trying to play games.

I've not had to reinstall anything, but they don't use the computer for
much, only when needed for school work or to check email.

The moral of this story - if you follow the Microsoft Rules for Safe Hex
you don't have much to worry about, and those rules have been around for
more than a decade. If you give up and switch to a Linux platform,
unless your a hobby type person with time to LEARN and manage, you will
be very limited in what you can do vs what you can easily do with
windows.
 
B

Bilky White

Leythos said:
I have more than a dozen computers running windows in my home and that's
not counting the 7 servers running windows 2003/2008 that face the
internet.

I have a mix of Windows XP Prof, Vista Ultimate, Windows 7 Ultimate for
my Microsoft boxes.

I also have Fedora Core system and stopped using Ubuntu last year after
finding it slow and hard on resources with a slow video interface.

Now if that was Gene Hunt that would be seen a pouting.
In my experience with computers, since the mid 70's, I've never had a
virus on any computer I own or manage, not once. In all the time that
I've been designing secure Windows based networks I've never had one
hacked, never had a computer compromised, and I've managed to pass ever
security audit the first pass without changes being needed - even audits
from DHS for Utility companies we work with.

So what?
Oh, and in case you think I'm missing something, I have three kids that
play many network games, use IM, etc... their systems have never been
compromised to date.

All irellevant to my argument.
Why does it matter, Ubuntu gets tons of updates too - every week there
were updates for the install, it's a simple thing and it's good when you
have a vendor that is responsive to system needs.

Ubuntu 1 - MS 0
I took a friend of a friend, was running XP directly connected to the
internet, they would not run as limited users, they had complete access
to all the games their kids liked, their Epson printers, etc... After
rebuilding their computer 5 times in 1 year I wiped it and installed
Ubuntu, setup FireFox, Web based email, Open Office, could not find a
working driver for their printer, so they bought an HP, and their kids
gave up trying to play games.

That proves that your friend was incabable of asking a question on a forum
and that most games vendors pander to MS. I found it impossible for Ubuntu
to drive my wireless card in one of my desktops. A little research and a
couple of days saw it working perfectly.
I've not had to reinstall anything, but they don't use the computer for
much, only when needed for school work or to check email.

The moral of this story - if you follow the Microsoft Rules for Safe Hex
you don't have much to worry about, and those rules have been around for
more than a decade. If you give up and switch to a Linux platform,
unless your a hobby type person with time to LEARN and manage, you will
be very limited in what you can do vs what you can easily do with
windows.

Not the point. I do follow the "rules" for MS machine but they're a PITA
and time consuming. I spend far less time maintaining my Linux boxes. As
for "giving up", that's not what I did at all, I merely saw the light. PCs
are there to pander to me and not vice-versa. The real moral of the story
is that Linux is far less prone to attack and so doesn't need all the layers
of security and is therefore faster.
 
L

Leythos

Not the point. I do follow the "rules" for MS machine but they're a PITA
and time consuming. I spend far less time maintaining my Linux boxes.

Then you don't know what you are doing at all. I spend the same amount
of time on my Fedora and Windows machine for maintenance, but I have a
lot more freedom for devices and features on the Windows platform than I
do on the Linux platform.
 
B

Bilky White

Leythos said:
Then you don't know what you are doing at all. I spend the same amount
of time on my Fedora and Windows machine for maintenance, but I have a
lot more freedom for devices and features on the Windows platform than I
do on the Linux platform.

What an elitist and holier than thou statement to make. I know *exactly*
what I'm doing, hence the move away from XP. The issue here seems to be
that you have spat your dummy out and thrown all of your toys out of your
pram because someone disagrees with you and is perfectly happy to use Linux.
I'm so glad I don't work with arrogant arses like you, you sound like a
typical IT type, the type that think that MS Access is the work of the
devil. <PLONK>
 
L

Leythos

What an elitist and holier than thou statement to make. I know *exactly*
what I'm doing, hence the move away from XP. The issue here seems to be
that you have spat your dummy out and thrown all of your toys out of your
pram because someone disagrees with you and is perfectly happy to use Linux.
I'm so glad I don't work with arrogant arses like you, you sound like a
typical IT type, the type that think that MS Access is the work of the
devil. <PLONK>

LOL - if you actually know as much as you claim then you would not be
spending MORE time on Windows maintenance than Linux maintenance. Your
statement shows that you are most likely a troll or as you put it, and
Elitist yourself.

Instead of taking the BS road and acting like a baby you should be
assuming that there are many people that know a LOT more about these
things than you do and taking the opportunity to learn from them.

I've seen your type many times, fired may people that think like you,
and have only seen a few that were able to realize their arrogant error
and step back and say "Hey, I could have learned something from that
person", but I don't think you're that type.

What you seem to have missed is that I'm happy with Linux myself, also
happy with Windows, so you're the one on the trailing edge of reality
here.

When you want to learn something come ask, but get rid of that arrogant
attitude first.
 
B

Bob I

Bilky said:
What an elitist and holier than thou statement to make. I know *exactly*
what I'm doing, hence the move away from XP. The issue here seems to be
that you have spat your dummy out and thrown all of your toys out of
your pram because someone disagrees with you and is perfectly happy to
use Linux. I'm so glad I don't work with arrogant arses like you, you
sound like a typical IT type, the type that think that MS Access is the
work of the devil. <PLONK>

<PLONK>
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Top