SP1 Opinions

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> "On the Bridge!"

No I have tested both on a multitude of comptuers from low end to high end.
XP wins hands down
EVERY time. There is no doubt about this, what you are saying is a MYTH!

Perhaps, but I am speaking from my own experience on my desktop (Asus
P5W DH, Intel Core 2 Q6600 quad 2.4GHz CPU, dual ATI Radeon 2600 Pro
PCI-E cards, two gigabit ethernet connections connected, with dual
AHCI-enabled 7200.11 SATA drives) that Vista performs noticeably better
then XP.

Turn off AHCI, NCQ, Aero (and by extension, DX10+EVR), and it's more or
less a wash in terms of performance. Of course, I don't leave those
turned off.

 

[On the Bridge!]

Are you dual booting a fresh copy of XP and Vista and comparing them both???

Test done all over the internet show that Vista is slower.. its not just me
who is saying this

 

[That Guy]

Thanks for the heads up diamontina... I am running flawless (mostly) 64 bit
original now. I will wait on the sp1 for awhile as my system is business /
gaming critical.

 

[Bob F.]

ok cool , thanks

Please include enough of the previous message(s) so that others trying to
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[CJM]

On what sort of machine, please?

P5B Deluxe WiFi, 6GB PC2-6400 (running at 5-5-5-15), Core 2 Quad 6600
currently runnign at Stock, 8800GTS/640, 1.75TB worth of Samsung Spinpoints.

A decent machine, but nothing unusual - in fact, virtually all components
are best-of-breed/best-value, meaning that they are all very popular,
therefore one would expect that my experiences are shared by a lot of
people.

 

[CJM]

Nope. Nothing in my machine appears on the "incompatible" list with
Microsoft.

My Creative XtremeGamer soundcard is recognised as being fully compatible
with Vista. But it still doesn't work.

Creative have said that they are aware of a 'small minority' of people
having similar problems, and they are looking to improve the drivers - but
that was 6 months ago so I'm still running with onboard sound.

They better try. The machine was running GREAT on Vista pre SP1. Now it
isn't and there is no driver at fault here - that is to say no driver from
a non-MS company causing this.

Besides, if I were the only one, you'd be justified. If I were only 7 of 9
then I'd be damned good looking but you would still be justified but
seeing I am one voice in the middle of a mass of voices saying the same
thing then there really must be something for MS to consider, wouldn't you
say?

I'm afraid your stats aren't verifiable. From my perspective, I'd claim that
SP1 has a 100% success rate in improving (the performance of) Vista - but
clearly there are bound to be *some* who have problems.

 

[CJM]

AFAIK, only MSDN and Technet subscribers can access it.

You'll have to wait a couple of weeks for it to appear on Windows Update,
and another month for a download.

 

[CJM]

Thanks for the heads up diamontina... I am running flawless (mostly) 64
bit original now. I will wait on the sp1 for awhile as my system is
business / gaming critical.

If your machine is business-critical, I would assume that you would have a
back-up system in place?? If so, why not backup, give it a go, and rollback
if you are not happy.

If Diamontina is correct and a lot of people with certain hardware
configurations are having problems, do you not think you are still going to
have problems, even if millions of people apply SP1 successfully.

Don't be paralyzed by scare-mongering and fear. If your machine is that
important, you should have backup provision, thus and upgrade to SP1
shouldn't be a problem (I accept that extra time would be required for a
rollback, which would certainly be inconvenient).

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

My Creative XtremeGamer soundcard is recognised as being fully compatible
with Vista. But it still doesn't work.

Creative have said that they are aware of a 'small minority' of people
having similar problems, and they are looking to improve the drivers - but
that was 6 months ago so I'm still running with onboard sound.



I'm afraid your stats aren't verifiable. From my perspective, I'd claim
that SP1 has a 100% success rate in improving (the performance of) Vista -
but clearly there are bound to be *some* who have problems.

Oh yes those stats ARE verifiable.

http://www.google.com.au/search?as_...as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images


http://www.google.com.au/search?as_...as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images

Check through those two for a start.

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

If you had 64 bit you got it last week but if you are a technet subscriber
that means stuff all. You have to be a PAID technet subscriber who pays many
hundreds of bucks a year and for what? They only got it 2 weeks early!

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

You wont be disappointed if you wait. All MS needs is a couple of weeks of
it being released and listening to complaint after complaint and they are
likely to realise they stuffed it and start looking into it at the very
least.

Thanks for the heads up diamontina... I am running flawless (mostly) 64
bit original now. I will wait on the sp1 for awhile as my system is
business / gaming critical.

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

If your machine is business-critical, I would assume that you would have a
back-up system in place?? If so, why not backup, give it a go, and
rollback if you are not happy.

If Diamontina is correct and a lot of people with certain hardware
configurations are having problems, do you not think you are still going
to have problems, even if millions of people apply SP1 successfully.

Don't be paralyzed by scare-mongering and fear. If your machine is that
important, you should have backup provision, thus and upgrade to SP1
shouldn't be a problem (I accept that extra time would be required for a
rollback, which would certainly be inconvenient).

Don't be paralysed by scare-mongering fear? Correct! Just be paralysed by
proof. I am living the proof.

 

[CJM]

If you had 64 bit you got it last week but if you are a technet subscriber
that means stuff all. You have to be a PAID technet subscriber who pays
many hundreds of bucks a year and for what? They only got it 2 weeks
early!

I'm really not sure what axe you are grinding here...

The guy asked if it was available, and I stated that it was only currently
available to MSDN and Technet subscribers. What are you getting hot under
the collar for?

 

[CJM]

Don't be paralysed by scare-mongering fear? Correct! Just be paralysed by
proof. I am living the proof.

Are you the norm or the exception?

I say the exception. You reckon the norm. The reality is that the true
answer will come out in due course when many more people have tried. So why
don't you keep your powder dry, and wait until the result filter through.

Oh and making a judgement by comparing USENET post counts is hardly
effective. People don't post a message when everything is working OK, do
they?

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

I'm really not sure what axe you are grinding here...

The guy asked if it was available, and I stated that it was only currently
available to MSDN and Technet subscribers. What are you getting hot under
the collar for?

I am a technet subscriber who does testing (albeit not a lot) for MS but
cant get SP1 unless I pay $512 for the privilege of getting it 2 weeks
early. Does that clarify that point?

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

Are you the norm or the exception?

The normal. I just got SP1 for 32 bit Business Edition too and the same old
crap that was there pre SP1. Still cant set the VIEWS I want and have them
stay put. No speed increase.

Nothing good came out of installing the 64 bit on Ultimate a few weeks back
or the 32 bit last night on Business.