smartctl conflicting and "Pre-fail" results

L

lbrtchx

Hi,
..
I am using smartctl to diagnose my drive. It is telling me something I
can't quite understand. In a sense it gave me results, but then it is
telling me it cannot know my type of drive?
..
How do you interpret this data? Is it safe to continue using this
drive?
..
lbrtxch
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 098 098 040 Old_age
Always - 2896
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail
Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000 Old_age
Always - 4219
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age
Always - 2844
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age
Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age
Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail
Offline - 0
..
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC AC310200R
Serial Number: WD-WM6750215698
Firmware Version: 17.01J17
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P
showall]
ATA Version is: 4
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST
SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't
show if SMART is enabled.
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options.
 
R

Rod Speed

I am using smartctl to diagnose my drive.
It is telling me something I can't quite understand.

Yeah, that's the main problem with smartctl,
its reports can leave a lot to be desired.
In a sense it gave me results, but then it is
telling me it cannot know my type of drive?
How do you interpret this data?
Is it safe to continue using this drive?

It appears to just be saying that it cant see from the response
from the drive whether SMART is enabled or not, even tho its
just reported values that show SMART must be enabled.

I wouldnt worry about it, looks like its just mindlessly nit picking.

root@1[~]# smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 098 098 040 Old_age
Always - 2896
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail
Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000 Old_age
Always - 4219
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age
Always - 2844
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age
Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age
Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail
Offline - 0
.
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC AC310200R
Serial Number: WD-WM6750215698
Firmware Version: 17.01J17
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P
showall]
ATA Version is: 4
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST
SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting.
To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.
 
A

Arno Wagner

Previously said:
Hi,
.
I am using smartctl to diagnose my drive. It is telling me something I
can't quite understand. In a sense it gave me results, but then it is
telling me it cannot know my type of drive?
.

That just means that it can only give you the standardized values.
Not all SMAT+RT values are standardized. There are vendor exceptions
that can mean something different on each drive. Drive temperature
is one of them, for example.
How do you interpret this data? Is it safe to continue using this
drive?

Looks fine to me. As to interpretation, the only safe thing
is that if a value is below the threshold, then the drive is dying.
However some manufacturers are overly optimistic. So basically
it comes down to experience and is a judgement call. Software cannot
really do anything for you expect report whether something is
below its threshold ...

Arno
.
lbrtxch
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 098 098 040 Old_age
Always - 2896
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail
Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000 Old_age
Always - 4219
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail
Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age
Always - 2844
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age
Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age
Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail
Offline - 0
.
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC AC310200R
Serial Number: WD-WM6750215698
Firmware Version: 17.01J17
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P
showall]
ATA Version is: 4
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST
SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't
show if SMART is enabled.
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options.
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

Rod Speed said:
Yeah, that's the main problem with smartctl,
its reports can leave a lot to be desired.
It appears to just be saying that it cant see from the response
from the drive whether SMART is enabled or not, even tho its
just reported values that show SMART must be enabled.

Or that the drive shows S.M.A.R.T. data when it shouldn't have.
I wouldnt worry about it, looks like its just mindlessly nit picking.

Nope, that ambiguity makes it unclear whether the data can be trusted
to be current.
root@1[~]# smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 098 098 040 Old_age Always - 2896
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000 Old_age Always - 4219
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2844
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0
.
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC AC310200R
Serial Number: WD-WM6750215698
Firmware Version: 17.01J17
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 4
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST
SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting.
To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

That just means that it can only give you the standardized values.

Nope. Just means that it decided to only give you those values.
Nothing to prevent it to give you all values, standardized or not.
Not all "SMAT+RT" values are standardized. There are vendor exceptions
that can mean something different on each drive. Drive temperature is one
of them, for example.
Looks fine to me.

Unfortunately it says nothing about the current state if the drive wasn't
monitoring before the snapshot was taken.
As to interpretation, the only safe thing
is that if a value is below the threshold, then the drive is dying.

Wrong again. Depends on the attribute type, obviously.
However some manufacturers are overly optimistic. So basically
it comes down to experience and is a judgement call. Software cannot
really do anything for you expect report whether something is
below its threshold ...

Arno
.
lbrtxch
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 098 098 040 Old_age Always - 2896
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000 Old_age Always - 4219
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2844
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0
.
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC AC310200R
Serial Number: WD-WM6750215698
Firmware Version: 17.01J17
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 4
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST
SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options.
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

Don't use google when inserting tables.
Hi,
.
I am using smartctl to diagnose my drive. It is telling me something I
can't quite understand. In a sense it gave me results,
but then it is telling me it cannot know my type of drive?

What exactly makes you think that, your drive is not a WDC AC310200R?
.
How do you interpret this data? Is it safe to continue using this drive?
.
lbrtxch
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 098 098 040 Old_age Always - 2896
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000 Old_age Always - 4219
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2844
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0
.
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC AC310200R
Serial Number: WD-WM6750215698
Firmware Version: 17.01J17
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 4
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST
SMART support is: Ambiguous -

There is nothing ambiguous about it, it is either enabled or it is not.
If it's not, there isn't really a point to show the data as it may be old.
So IF you show it, it should actually say whether S.M.A.R.T. was already
active or that it was just activated to show the data.
ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.

Actually, it is only word 85 that shows that and it not whether S.M.A.R.T.
is enabled but whether the whole S.M.A.R.T. feature set is enabled,
i.o.w., whether the drive will respond to S.M.A.R.T. commands at all.
It does appear though that enabling the feature set makes it also start the
monitoring.

What is ambiguous is whether it is monitoring or not when it 'apparently'
says S.M.A.R.T. is not enabled, yet still responds to S.M.A.R.T. commands.
So, ambiguous is whether the shown data is old (inaccurate) or accurate, not
whether it is supported.

From ATA/ATAPI-6:

word 85-Mandatory-Command set/feature enabled.
bit-0 1 = SMART feature set enabled

word 86-Mandatory-Command set/feature enabled.
No S.M.A.R.T. features listed here, has nothing to do with S.M.A.R.T.

word 87 Mandatory Command set/feature default.
bit-1 1 = SMART self-test supported
bit-0 1 = SMART error logging supported

Again, nothing to do with S.M.A.R.T. being active or not.

Btw, these don't apply to/aren't listed in ATA/ATAPI-4:
word 87 Variable Command set/feature default.
If words 85, 86, and 87 = 0000h or FFFFh com-
mand set default notification is not supported.
bit-15 Shall be cleared to zero
bit-14 Shall be set to one
bits13-0 Reserved
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting.

Would have been nice it had said which one.
Can also indicate that S.M.A.R.T. was indeed disabled and that this
should be the expected and correct response.
Sounds very much like the author doesn't actually know S.M.A.R.T.
 
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Don't use google when inserting tables.
Hi,
.
I am using smartctl to diagnose my drive. It is telling me something I
can't quite understand. In a sense it gave me results,
but then it is telling me it cannot know my type of drive?

What exactly makes you think that, your drive is not a WDC AC310200R?
.
How do you interpret this data? Is it safe to continue using this drive?
.
lbrtxch
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 098 098 040 Old_age Always - 2896
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000 Old_age Always - 4219
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2844
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0
.
// __
root@1[~]# smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC AC310200R
Serial Number: WD-WM6750215698
Firmware Version: 17.01J17
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 4
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST
SMART support is: Ambiguous -

There is nothing ambiguous about it, it is either enabled or it is not.
If it's not, there isn't really a point to show the data as it may be old.
So IF you show it, it should actually say whether S.M.A.R.T. was already
active or that it was just activated to show the data.
ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.

Actually, it is only word 85 that shows that and it not whether S.M.A.R.T.
is enabled but whether the whole S.M.A.R.T. feature set is enabled,
i.o.w., whether the drive will respond to S.M.A.R.T. commands at all.
It does appear though that enabling the feature set makes it also start the
monitoring.

What is ambiguous is whether it is monitoring or not when it 'apparently'
says S.M.A.R.T. is not enabled, yet still responds to S.M.A.R.T. commands.
So, ambiguous is whether the shown data is old (inaccurate) or accurate, not
whether it is supported.

From ATA/ATAPI-6:

word 85-Mandatory-Command set/feature enabled.
bit-0 1 = SMART feature set enabled

word 86-Mandatory-Command set/feature enabled.
No S.M.A.R.T. features listed here, has nothing to do with S.M.A.R.T.

word 87 Mandatory Command set/feature default.
bit-1 1 = SMART self-test supported
bit-0 1 = SMART error logging supported

Again, nothing to do with S.M.A.R.T. being active or not.

Btw, these don't apply to/aren't listed in ATA/ATAPI-4:
word 87 Variable Command set/feature default.
If words 85, 86, and 87 = 0000h or FFFFh com-
mand set default notification is not supported.
bit-15 Shall be cleared to zero
bit-14 Shall be set to one
bits13-0 Reserved
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting.

Would have been nice it had said which one.
Can also indicate that S.M.A.R.T. was indeed disabled and that this
should be the expected and correct response.
Sounds very much like the author doesn't actually know S.M.A.R.T.
To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.

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Old_age&nbsp; Always&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2844<BR>&gt; 198=20
Offline_Uncorrectable&nbsp;&nbsp; 0x0012&nbsp;&nbsp; 200&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
200&nbsp;&nbsp; 000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Old_age&nbsp;=20
Always&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
0<BR>&gt; 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0x000a&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
200&nbsp;&nbsp; 200&nbsp;&nbsp; 000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Old_age&nbsp;=20
Always&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
0<BR>&gt; 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate&nbsp;&nbsp; 0x0009&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
200&nbsp;&nbsp; 200&nbsp;&nbsp; 051&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pre-fail=20
Offline&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
0<BR>&gt; .<BR>&gt; // __<BR>&gt; </FONT><A class=3D1 =
href=3D"mailto:root@1"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>root@1</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New" size=3D2>[~]#=20
smartctl -a /dev/hda<BR>&gt; smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 =
Bruce=20
Allen<BR>&gt; Home page is </FONT><A class=3D1=20
href=3D"http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/"><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"=20
size=3D2>http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/</FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; =3D=3D=3D START OF =
INFORMATION SECTION=20
=3D=3D=3D<BR>&gt; Device Model:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WDC =
AC310200R<BR>&gt; Serial=20
Number:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WD-WM6750215698<BR>&gt; Firmware Version:=20
17.01J17<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3Dq0><BR></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3Dq1><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&gt; Device=20
is:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Not in smartctl database =
[for=20
details use: -P showall]<BR></FONT></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3Dq1>&gt; ATA =
Version=20
is:&nbsp;&nbsp; 4<BR></SPAN><SPAN class=3Dq1>&gt; ATA Standard is:&nbsp; =
Exact ATA=20
specification draft version not =
indicated</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN=20
class=3Dq1>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&gt; Local Time =
is:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Sun Jan 21 20:24:46 2007 EST<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3Dq0><BR></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3Dq1><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&gt; SMART support is: =
Ambiguous -=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq1></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq1><FONT color=3D#000000>There is nothing ambiguous =
about it, it=20
is either enabled or it is not.</FONT>=20
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0>If it's not, there isn't really a point to show =
the data as=20
it may be old.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0>So&nbsp;IF you show it, it should actually say =
whether=20
S.M.A.R.T. was already </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0>active or that it was just activated to show the=20
data.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq1><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&gt; ATA =
IDENTIFY DEVICE=20
words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3Dq0><BR>Actually, it is only word 85 that shows that and it not =
whether=20
S.M.A.R.T. <BR>is enabled but whether the&nbsp; whole S.M.A.R.T. feature =
set is=20
enabled,<BR>i.o.w., whether the drive will respond to S.M.A.R.T. =
commands at=20
all.<BR>It does appear though that enabling the feature set makes it =
also start=20
the </DIV>
<DIV>monitoring.<BR><BR>What is ambiguous is whether it is&nbsp; =
monitoring or=20
not when it 'apparently' <BR>says S.M.A.R.T. is not enabled, yet still =
responds=20
to S.M.A.R.T. commands.<BR>So, ambiguous is whether the shown data is =
old=20
(inaccurate) or accurate, not <BR>whether it is supported.<BR><BR>From=20
ATA/ATAPI-6:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0>word 85-Mandatory-Command set/feature=20
enabled.<BR>bit-0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 =3D SMART feature set=20
enabled<BR><BR>word 86-Mandatory-Command set/feature enabled.<BR>No =
S.M.A.R.T.=20
features listed here, has nothing to do with S.M.A.R.T.<BR><BR>word 87 =
Mandatory=20
Command set/feature default.<BR>bit-1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 =3D =
SMART=20
self-test supported<BR>bit-0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;1 =3D SMART error =
logging=20
supported<BR><BR>Again, nothing to do with S.M.A.R.T. being active or=20
not.<BR><BR>Btw, these don't apply&nbsp;to/aren't listed=20
in&nbsp;ATA/ATAPI-4:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
size=3D3>word 87 Variable Command set/feature default. =
</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS" size=3D3>If=20
words 85, 86, and 87 =3D 0000h or FFFFh com-</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
size=3D3>mand </FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3Dq0><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3>set default notification is not=20
supported.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
size=3D3>bit-15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Shall be cleared to=20
zero</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
size=3D3>bit-14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Shall be set to =
one</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
size=3D3>bits13-0 Reserved</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0><BR></SPAN><SPAN class=3Dq1><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"=20
size=3D2>&gt; A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. =
<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3Dq0><BR>Would have been nice it had said which one.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0>Can also indicate that S.M.A.R.T. was indeed =
disabled and=20
that this </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0>should be the expected and</SPAN><SPAN class=3Dq0> =
correct=20
response.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq0>Sounds very much like the author doesn't actually =
know=20
S.M.A.R.T.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN class=3Dq1><FONT face=3D"Courier New" =
size=3D2>&gt; To=20
continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dq1><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Why the **** are you posting in HTML, tard?
 
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Eric Gisin

Please top post or trim the quoting, retard. He did post in text/plain, idiot troll.
 

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