Slightly OT; Opinions on Forum type software

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Thomas A. Rowe

You should not have any problems using Access based on the info you have provide so far regarding
the number of users and the number you think will be active at any one time.

However this is all depending on how well the app was written.

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you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $ either).
if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.

just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.

thanks

robo


| asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have to
| have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it from the
| web(or site) properties dialog box.
|
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
| | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for reminding
| me.
|
| R.
|
|
| | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin something.
| | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and putting
| | it where you want it. (generally)
| |
| | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it seems
| | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage gets
| | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage but
| it's
| | just easier with asp.
| |
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| message
| | | | Hay Chris!
| |
| | I like the php look much better so far.
| |
| | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that could
| | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either way.
| |
| | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always like to
| | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| |
| | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| Delphi
| | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the alumni (or
| | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users, maybe
| 1000,
| | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| |
| | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no one
| pays
| | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| |
| | the quest continues...
| |
| | Thanks,
| |
| | Rob
| |
| |
| | | | | crash,
| | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my sql
| | | database your host will give you administration through the php my admin
| | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb software's
| | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a script
| to
| | | set up your db tables.
| | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an hour or
| | | less.
| | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and running
| with
| | | FrontPage.
| | |
| | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal" nice
| and
| | | simple here:
| | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it. it's
| | super
| | | FrontPage compatible.
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| | the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said they did.
| | |
| | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| MySQL.
| | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I really
| | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | |
| | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I finally
| | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server - now
| I'm
| | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use the
| | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too - I'm
| | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the aussie
| | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | |
| | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | |
| | | Rob
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | blasphemous,
| | | I
| | | | believe. :)
| | | |
| | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be easier to
| | | backup.
| | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer to use
| | | MySQL.
| | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in using
| | | Access
| | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| flames
| | | and
| | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | |
| | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| verified
| | | that
| | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | definitely
| | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts, and if
| | you
| | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is pretty
| | | | straightforward.
| | | |
| | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much directly
| | in
| | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and admin
| | | take
| | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only used
| on
| | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as the
| phpbb
| | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites so my
| | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | |
| | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP also.
| | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think they do
| | | charge
| | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or Snitz
| | for
| | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it myself
| | (hmmm
| | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | |
| | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about any
| of
| | | the
| | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then it's just
| | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is not bad
| | but
| | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Crash_Gordon=AE?=

Whew. Thanks Thomas.



| You should not have any problems using Access based on the info you have provide so far regarding
| the number of users and the number you think will be active at any one time.
|
| However this is all depending on how well the app was written.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
|
| FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| ==============================================
| To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
|
| | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $ either).
| if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
|
| just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
|
| thanks
|
| robo
|
|
| | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have to
| | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it from the
| | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| |
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for reminding
| | me.
| |
| | R.
| |
| |
| | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin something.
| | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and putting
| | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | |
| | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it seems
| | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage gets
| | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage but
| | it's
| | | just easier with asp.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| | the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | |
| | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | |
| | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that could
| | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either way.
| | |
| | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always like to
| | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | |
| | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | Delphi
| | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the alumni (or
| | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users, maybe
| | 1000,
| | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | |
| | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no one
| | pays
| | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | |
| | | the quest continues...
| | |
| | | Thanks,
| | |
| | | Rob
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | crash,
| | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my sql
| | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my admin
| | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb software's
| | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a script
| | to
| | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an hour or
| | | | less.
| | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and running
| | with
| | | | FrontPage.
| | | |
| | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal" nice
| | and
| | | | simple here:
| | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it. it's
| | | super
| | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said they did.
| | | |
| | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | MySQL.
| | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I really
| | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | |
| | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I finally
| | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server - now
| | I'm
| | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use the
| | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too - I'm
| | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the aussie
| | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | |
| | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | |
| | | | Rob
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | blasphemous,
| | | | I
| | | | | believe. :)
| | | | |
| | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be easier to
| | | | backup.
| | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer to use
| | | | MySQL.
| | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in using
| | | | Access
| | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | flames
| | | | and
| | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | |
| | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | verified
| | | | that
| | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | definitely
| | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts, and if
| | | you
| | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is pretty
| | | | | straightforward.
| | | | |
| | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much directly
| | | in
| | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and admin
| | | | take
| | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only used
| | on
| | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as the
| | phpbb
| | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites so my
| | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP also.
| | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think they do
| | | | charge
| | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or Snitz
| | | for
| | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it myself
| | | (hmmm
| | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | |
| | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about any
| | of
| | | | the
| | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then it's just
| | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is not bad
| | | but
| | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
J

Joe Rohn

Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:

http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp

--
Joe

Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage

you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
either).
if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.

just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.

thanks

robo


| asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have to
| have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it from
the
| web(or site) properties dialog box.
|
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
message
| | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
reminding
| me.
|
| R.
|
|
| | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin something.
| | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
putting
| | it where you want it. (generally)
| |
| | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it seems
| | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage gets
| | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage but
| it's
| | just easier with asp.
| |
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| message
| | | | Hay Chris!
| |
| | I like the php look much better so far.
| |
| | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that could
| | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either way.
| |
| | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always like
to
| | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| |
| | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| Delphi
| | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the alumni
(or
| | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users, maybe
| 1000,
| | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| |
| | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no one
| pays
| | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| |
| | the quest continues...
| |
| | Thanks,
| |
| | Rob
| |
| |
| | | | | crash,
| | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my sql
| | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
admin
| | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
software's
| | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a script
| to
| | | set up your db tables.
| | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an hour
or
| | | less.
| | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and running
| with
| | | FrontPage.
| | |
| | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal" nice
| and
| | | simple here:
| | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it. it's
| | super
| | | FrontPage compatible.
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
all
| | the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said they
did.
| | |
| | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| MySQL.
| | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
really
| | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | |
| | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
finally
| | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server - now
| I'm
| | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use the
| | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too - I'm
| | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the aussie
| | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | |
| | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | |
| | | Rob
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | blasphemous,
| | | I
| | | | believe. :)
| | | |
| | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be easier to
| | | backup.
| | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer to
use
| | | MySQL.
| | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in using
| | | Access
| | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| flames
| | | and
| | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | |
| | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| verified
| | | that
| | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | definitely
| | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts, and
if
| | you
| | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
pretty
| | | | straightforward.
| | | |
| | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
directly
| | in
| | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
admin
| | | take
| | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
used
| on
| | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as the
| phpbb
| | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites so my
| | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | |
| | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP also.
| | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think they
do
| | | charge
| | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
Snitz
| | for
| | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it myself
| | (hmmm
| | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | |
| | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about any
| of
| | | the
| | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then it's
just
| | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is not
bad
| | but
| | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Crash_Gordon=AE?=

Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.

THANKS

Robo


| Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
|
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
|
| --
| Joe
|
| Forum Crafters:
| http://www.forumcrafters.com
| FrontPage Users Forums:
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
|
| | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| either).
| if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
|
| just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
|
| thanks
|
| robo
|
|
| | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have to
| | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it from
| the
| | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| |
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| message
| | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| reminding
| | me.
| |
| | R.
| |
| |
| | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin something.
| | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| putting
| | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | |
| | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it seems
| | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage gets
| | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage but
| | it's
| | | just easier with asp.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| | the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | |
| | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | |
| | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that could
| | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either way.
| | |
| | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always like
| to
| | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | |
| | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | Delphi
| | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the alumni
| (or
| | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users, maybe
| | 1000,
| | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | |
| | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no one
| | pays
| | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | |
| | | the quest continues...
| | |
| | | Thanks,
| | |
| | | Rob
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | crash,
| | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my sql
| | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| admin
| | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| software's
| | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a script
| | to
| | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an hour
| or
| | | | less.
| | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and running
| | with
| | | | FrontPage.
| | | |
| | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal" nice
| | and
| | | | simple here:
| | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it. it's
| | | super
| | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said they
| did.
| | | |
| | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | MySQL.
| | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| really
| | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | |
| | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| finally
| | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server - now
| | I'm
| | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use the
| | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too - I'm
| | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the aussie
| | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | |
| | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | |
| | | | Rob
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | blasphemous,
| | | | I
| | | | | believe. :)
| | | | |
| | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be easier to
| | | | backup.
| | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer to
| use
| | | | MySQL.
| | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in using
| | | | Access
| | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | flames
| | | | and
| | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | |
| | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | verified
| | | | that
| | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | definitely
| | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts, and
| if
| | | you
| | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| pretty
| | | | | straightforward.
| | | | |
| | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| directly
| | | in
| | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| admin
| | | | take
| | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| used
| | on
| | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as the
| | phpbb
| | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites so my
| | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP also.
| | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think they
| do
| | | | charge
| | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| Snitz
| | | for
| | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it myself
| | | (hmmm
| | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | |
| | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about any
| | of
| | | | the
| | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then it's
| just
| | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is not
| bad
| | | but
| | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
J

Joe Rohn

Hi Rob,

You are Welcome!

Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:

1. Web Wiz
2. phpBB
3. Snitz

Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer the
other two more.

--
Joe

Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage

Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.

THANKS

Robo


| Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
|
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
|
| --
| Joe
|
| Forum Crafters:
| http://www.forumcrafters.com
| FrontPage Users Forums:
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
|
message
| | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| either).
| if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
|
| just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
|
| thanks
|
| robo
|
|
| | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have
to
| | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it from
| the
| | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| |
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| message
| | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| reminding
| | me.
| |
| | R.
| |
| |
| | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
something.
| | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| putting
| | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | |
| | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it seems
| | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage
gets
| | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage
but
| | it's
| | | just easier with asp.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
all
| | the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | |
| | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | |
| | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that could
| | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either way.
| | |
| | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
like
| to
| | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | |
| | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | Delphi
| | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the alumni
| (or
| | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users, maybe
| | 1000,
| | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | |
| | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no
one
| | pays
| | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | |
| | | the quest continues...
| | |
| | | Thanks,
| | |
| | | Rob
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | crash,
| | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my sql
| | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| admin
| | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| software's
| | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
script
| | to
| | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
hour
| or
| | | | less.
| | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
running
| | with
| | | | FrontPage.
| | | |
| | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal"
nice
| | and
| | | | simple here:
| | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
it's
| | | super
| | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said they
| did.
| | | |
| | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | MySQL.
| | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| really
| | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | |
| | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| finally
| | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server -
now
| | I'm
| | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use
the
| | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too -
I'm
| | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
aussie
| | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | |
| | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | |
| | | | Rob
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | blasphemous,
| | | | I
| | | | | believe. :)
| | | | |
| | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be easier
to
| | | | backup.
| | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer to
| use
| | | | MySQL.
| | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
using
| | | | Access
| | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | flames
| | | | and
| | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | |
| | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | verified
| | | | that
| | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | definitely
| | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts, and
| if
| | | you
| | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| pretty
| | | | | straightforward.
| | | | |
| | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| directly
| | | in
| | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| admin
| | | | take
| | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| used
| | on
| | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as the
| | phpbb
| | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites so
my
| | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | |
in
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP also.
| | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think they
| do
| | | | charge
| | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| Snitz
| | | for
| | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
myself
| | | (hmmm
| | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | |
| | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about
any
| | of
| | | | the
| | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then it's
| just
| | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is not
| bad
| | | but
| | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Crash_Gordon=AE?=

I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me. Webwiz comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to setup.

I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)


| Hi Rob,
|
| You are Welcome!
|
| Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
|
| 1. Web Wiz
| 2. phpBB
| 3. Snitz
|
| Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer the
| other two more.
|
| --
| Joe
|
| Forum Crafters:
| http://www.forumcrafters.com
| FrontPage Users Forums:
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
|
| | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
|
| THANKS
|
| Robo
|
|
| | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| |
| | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| |
| | --
| | Joe
| |
| | Forum Crafters:
| | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| |
| message
| | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| | either).
| | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| |
| | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| |
| | thanks
| |
| | robo
| |
| |
| | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have
| to
| | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it from
| | the
| | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| | the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | reminding
| | | me.
| | |
| | | R.
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| something.
| | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | putting
| | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | |
| | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it seems
| | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage
| gets
| | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage
| but
| | | it's
| | | | just easier with asp.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | |
| | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | |
| | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that could
| | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either way.
| | | |
| | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| like
| | to
| | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | |
| | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | | Delphi
| | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the alumni
| | (or
| | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users, maybe
| | | 1000,
| | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | | |
| | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no
| one
| | | pays
| | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | |
| | | | the quest continues...
| | | |
| | | | Thanks,
| | | |
| | | | Rob
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my sql
| | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| | admin
| | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | software's
| | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| script
| | | to
| | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| hour
| | or
| | | | | less.
| | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| running
| | | with
| | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | |
| | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal"
| nice
| | | and
| | | | | simple here:
| | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| it's
| | | | super
| | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said they
| | did.
| | | | |
| | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | | MySQL.
| | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| | really
| | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | |
| | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | finally
| | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server -
| now
| | | I'm
| | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use
| the
| | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too -
| I'm
| | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| aussie
| | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | |
| | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | |
| | | | | Rob
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | I
| | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be easier
| to
| | | | | backup.
| | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer to
| | use
| | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| using
| | | | | Access
| | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | | flames
| | | | | and
| | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | verified
| | | | | that
| | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | | definitely
| | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts, and
| | if
| | | | you
| | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| | pretty
| | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | directly
| | | | in
| | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| | admin
| | | | | take
| | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| | used
| | | on
| | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as the
| | | phpbb
| | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites so
| my
| | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | |
| in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP also.
| | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think they
| | do
| | | | | charge
| | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| | Snitz
| | | | for
| | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| myself
| | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about
| any
| | | of
| | | | | the
| | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then it's
| | just
| | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is not
| | bad
| | | | but
| | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
C

chris leeds

I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
best way to start:
unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/ open
web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project like
this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.

HTH

--
The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--


I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me. Webwiz
comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to setup.

I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)


| Hi Rob,
|
| You are Welcome!
|
| Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
|
| 1. Web Wiz
| 2. phpBB
| 3. Snitz
|
| Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer the
| other two more.
|
| --
| Joe
|
| Forum Crafters:
| http://www.forumcrafters.com
| FrontPage Users Forums:
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
|
message
| | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
|
| THANKS
|
| Robo
|
|
| | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| |
| | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| |
| | --
| | Joe
| |
| | Forum Crafters:
| | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| |
| message
| | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| | either).
| | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| |
| | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| |
| | thanks
| |
| | robo
| |
| |
| | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have
| to
| | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
from
| | the
| | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
all
| | the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | reminding
| | | me.
| | |
| | | R.
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| something.
| | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | putting
| | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | |
| | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
seems
| | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage
| gets
| | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage
| but
| | | it's
| | | | just easier with asp.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | |
| | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | |
| | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
could
| | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either
way.
| | | |
| | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| like
| | to
| | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | |
| | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | | Delphi
| | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
alumni
| | (or
| | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
maybe
| | | 1000,
| | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | | |
| | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no
| one
| | | pays
| | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | |
| | | | the quest continues...
| | | |
| | | | Thanks,
| | | |
| | | | Rob
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my
sql
| | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| | admin
| | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | software's
| | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| script
| | | to
| | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| hour
| | or
| | | | | less.
| | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| running
| | | with
| | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | |
| | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal"
| nice
| | | and
| | | | | simple here:
| | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| it's
| | | | super
| | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
in
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
they
| | did.
| | | | |
| | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | | MySQL.
| | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| | really
| | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | |
| | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | finally
| | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server -
| now
| | | I'm
| | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use
| the
| | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too -
| I'm
| | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| aussie
| | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | |
| | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | |
| | | | | Rob
| | | | |
| | | | |
message
| | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | I
| | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
easier
| to
| | | | | backup.
| | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer
to
| | use
| | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| using
| | | | | Access
| | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | | flames
| | | | | and
| | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | verified
| | | | | that
| | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | | definitely
| | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts,
and
| | if
| | | | you
| | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| | pretty
| | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | directly
| | | | in
| | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| | admin
| | | | | take
| | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| | used
| | | on
| | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as
the
| | | phpbb
| | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites
so
| my
| | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | |
| | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
wrote
| in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
also.
| | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think
they
| | do
| | | | | charge
| | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| | Snitz
| | | | for
| | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| myself
| | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about
| any
| | | of
| | | | | the
| | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
it's
| | just
| | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is
not
| | bad
| | | | but
| | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Crash_Gordon=AE?=

Really?

So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....

I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the files yet, because dns hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the registrar...should happen today or tomorrow if the aussie registry would stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:

I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum software will be the only use for the db.

=====semi related question=======
ok I have this database on this web.
i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use for that web...can i cross access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??

Robo




| I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| best way to start:
| unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/ open
| web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project like
| this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
|
| HTH
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
| | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me. Webwiz
| comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to setup.
|
| I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
|
|
| | | Hi Rob,
| |
| | You are Welcome!
| |
| | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| |
| | 1. Web Wiz
| | 2. phpBB
| | 3. Snitz
| |
| | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer the
| | other two more.
| |
| | --
| | Joe
| |
| | Forum Crafters:
| | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| |
| message
| | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| |
| | THANKS
| |
| | Robo
| |
| |
| | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | |
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | |
| | | --
| | | Joe
| | |
| | | Forum Crafters:
| | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| | | either).
| | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| | |
| | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | |
| | | thanks
| | |
| | | robo
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have
| | to
| | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| from
| | | the
| | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | reminding
| | | | me.
| | | |
| | | | R.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | something.
| | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | | putting
| | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | |
| | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| seems
| | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage
| | gets
| | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage
| | but
| | | | it's
| | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | |
| | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | |
| | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| could
| | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either
| way.
| | | | |
| | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| | like
| | | to
| | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | |
| | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | | | Delphi
| | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| alumni
| | | (or
| | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| maybe
| | | | 1000,
| | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | | | |
| | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no
| | one
| | | | pays
| | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | | |
| | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | |
| | | | | Thanks,
| | | | |
| | | | | Rob
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my
| sql
| | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| | | admin
| | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | software's
| | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| | script
| | | | to
| | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| | hour
| | | or
| | | | | | less.
| | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | running
| | | | with
| | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal"
| | nice
| | | | and
| | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| | it's
| | | | | super
| | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
| of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| they
| | | did.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| | | really
| | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | | finally
| | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server -
| | now
| | | | I'm
| | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use
| | the
| | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too -
| | I'm
| | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| | aussie
| | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Rob
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | I
| | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| easier
| | to
| | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer
| to
| | | use
| | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| | using
| | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | | | flames
| | | | | | and
| | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | | verified
| | | | | | that
| | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts,
| and
| | | if
| | | | | you
| | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| | | pretty
| | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | | directly
| | | | | in
| | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| | | admin
| | | | | | take
| | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| | | used
| | | | on
| | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as
| the
| | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites
| so
| | my
| | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| | in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| also.
| | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think
| they
| | | do
| | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| | | Snitz
| | | | | for
| | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| | myself
| | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about
| | any
| | | | of
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| it's
| | | just
| | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is
| not
| | | bad
| | | | | but
| | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Create your subweb, then after download the app, unzip it, then select everything and drag/drop into
the current open subweb, when FP prompt to move the database, say no for the moment, then read
instructions for creating the connection, etc.

In general the answer is no, but that depends on the permissions on the site.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Really?

So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....

I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the files yet, because dns
hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the registrar...should happen today or tomorrow if the
aussie registry would stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:

I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum software will be the only
use for the db.

=====semi related question=======
ok I have this database on this web.
i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use for that web...can i cross
access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??

Robo




| I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| best way to start:
| unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/ open
| web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project like
| this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
|
| HTH
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
| | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me. Webwiz
| comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to setup.
|
| I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
|
|
| | | Hi Rob,
| |
| | You are Welcome!
| |
| | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| |
| | 1. Web Wiz
| | 2. phpBB
| | 3. Snitz
| |
| | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer the
| | other two more.
| |
| | --
| | Joe
| |
| | Forum Crafters:
| | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| |
| message
| | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| |
| | THANKS
| |
| | Robo
| |
| |
| | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | |
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | |
| | | --
| | | Joe
| | |
| | | Forum Crafters:
| | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| | | either).
| | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| | |
| | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | |
| | | thanks
| | |
| | | robo
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have
| | to
| | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| from
| | | the
| | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | reminding
| | | | me.
| | | |
| | | | R.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | something.
| | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | | putting
| | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | |
| | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| seems
| | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage
| | gets
| | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage
| | but
| | | | it's
| | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | |
| | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | |
| | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| could
| | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either
| way.
| | | | |
| | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| | like
| | | to
| | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | |
| | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | | | Delphi
| | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| alumni
| | | (or
| | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| maybe
| | | | 1000,
| | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | | | |
| | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no
| | one
| | | | pays
| | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | | |
| | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | |
| | | | | Thanks,
| | | | |
| | | | | Rob
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my
| sql
| | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| | | admin
| | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | software's
| | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| | script
| | | | to
| | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| | hour
| | | or
| | | | | | less.
| | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | running
| | | | with
| | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal"
| | nice
| | | | and
| | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| | it's
| | | | | super
| | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
| of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| they
| | | did.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| | | really
| | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | | finally
| | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server -
| | now
| | | | I'm
| | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use
| | the
| | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too -
| | I'm
| | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| | aussie
| | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Rob
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | I
| | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| easier
| | to
| | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer
| to
| | | use
| | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| | using
| | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | | | flames
| | | | | | and
| | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | | verified
| | | | | | that
| | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts,
| and
| | | if
| | | | | you
| | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| | | pretty
| | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | | directly
| | | | | in
| | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| | | admin
| | | | | | take
| | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| | | used
| | | | on
| | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as
| the
| | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites
| so
| | my
| | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| | in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| also.
| | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think
| they
| | | do
| | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| | | Snitz
| | | | | for
| | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| | myself
| | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about
| | any
| | | | of
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| it's
| | | just
| | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is
| not
| | | bad
| | | | | but
| | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Crash_Gordon=AE?=

you mean no to the cross accessing of access?
i've never worked with dbs on the web so forgive the noobness.
i can't set permissions from one web db to the other web db?

ps - sorry for all the questions, im the kinda guy that has to have it allllll figured out in my peasized brain BEFORE i do it :)

| Create your subweb, then after download the app, unzip it, then select everything and drag/drop into
| the current open subweb, when FP prompt to move the database, say no for the moment, then read
| instructions for creating the connection, etc.
|
| In general the answer is no, but that depends on the permissions on the site.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
|
| FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| ==============================================
| To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
|
| | Really?
|
| So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....
|
| I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the files yet, because dns
| hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the registrar...should happen today or tomorrow if the
| aussie registry would stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:
|
| I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
| Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum software will be the only
| use for the db.
|
| =====semi related question=======
| ok I have this database on this web.
| i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use for that web...can i cross
| access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
| WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
| WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??
|
| Robo
|
|
|
|
| | I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| | best way to start:
| | unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/ open
| | web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| | FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project like
| | this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
| |
| | HTH
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| | | | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me. Webwiz
| | comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to setup.
| |
| | I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
| |
| |
| | | | | Hi Rob,
| | |
| | | You are Welcome!
| | |
| | | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| | |
| | | 1. Web Wiz
| | | 2. phpBB
| | | 3. Snitz
| | |
| | | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer the
| | | other two more.
| | |
| | | --
| | | Joe
| | |
| | | Forum Crafters:
| | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| | | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| | |
| | | THANKS
| | |
| | | Robo
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | | |
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Joe
| | | |
| | | | Forum Crafters:
| | | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| | | | either).
| | | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| | | |
| | | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | | |
| | | | thanks
| | | |
| | | | robo
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have
| | | to
| | | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| | from
| | | | the
| | | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | | reminding
| | | | | me.
| | | | |
| | | | | R.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | | something.
| | | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | | | putting
| | | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| | seems
| | | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage
| | | gets
| | | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage
| | | but
| | | | | it's
| | | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| | could
| | | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either
| | way.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| | | like
| | | | to
| | | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | | | | Delphi
| | | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| | alumni
| | | | (or
| | | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| | maybe
| | | | | 1000,
| | | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no
| | | one
| | | | | pays
| | | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Thanks,
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Rob
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my
| | sql
| | | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | | software's
| | | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| | | script
| | | | | to
| | | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| | | hour
| | | | or
| | | | | | | less.
| | | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | | running
| | | | | with
| | | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal"
| | | nice
| | | | | and
| | | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| | | it's
| | | | | | super
| | | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
| | of
| | | | all
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| | they
| | | | did.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| | | | really
| | | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | | | finally
| | | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server -
| | | now
| | | | | I'm
| | | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use
| | | the
| | | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too -
| | | I'm
| | | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| | | aussie
| | | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Rob
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | | I
| | | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| | easier
| | | to
| | | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer
| | to
| | | | use
| | | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| | | using
| | | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | | | | flames
| | | | | | | and
| | | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | | | verified
| | | | | | | that
| | | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts,
| | and
| | | | if
| | | | | | you
| | | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| | | | pretty
| | | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | | | directly
| | | | | | in
| | | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | take
| | | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| | | | used
| | | | | on
| | | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as
| | the
| | | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites
| | so
| | | my
| | | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| | wrote
| | | in
| | | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| | also.
| | | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think
| | they
| | | | do
| | | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| | | | Snitz
| | | | | | for
| | | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| | | myself
| | | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about
| | | any
| | | | | of
| | | | | | | the
| | | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| | it's
| | | | just
| | | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is
| | not
| | | | bad
| | | | | | but
| | | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

inline

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


you mean no to the cross accessing of access? YES
i've never worked with dbs on the web so forgive the noobness.
i can't set permissions from one web db to the other web db? IN GENERAL NO

ps - sorry for all the questions, im the kinda guy that has to have it allllll figured out in my
peasized brain BEFORE i do it :)

| Create your subweb, then after download the app, unzip it, then select everything and drag/drop
into
| the current open subweb, when FP prompt to move the database, say no for the moment, then read
| instructions for creating the connection, etc.
|
| In general the answer is no, but that depends on the permissions on the site.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
|
| FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| ==============================================
| To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
|
| | Really?
|
| So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....
|
| I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the files yet, because dns
| hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the registrar...should happen today or tomorrow if the
| aussie registry would stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:
|
| I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
| Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum software will be the
only
| use for the db.
|
| =====semi related question=======
| ok I have this database on this web.
| i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use for that web...can i
cross
| access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
| WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
| WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??
|
| Robo
|
|
|
|
| | I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| | best way to start:
| | unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/ open
| | web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| | FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project like
| | this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
| |
| | HTH
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| | | | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me. Webwiz
| | comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to setup.
| |
| | I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
| |
| |
| | | | | Hi Rob,
| | |
| | | You are Welcome!
| | |
| | | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| | |
| | | 1. Web Wiz
| | | 2. phpBB
| | | 3. Snitz
| | |
| | | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer the
| | | other two more.
| | |
| | | --
| | | Joe
| | |
| | | Forum Crafters:
| | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| | | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| | |
| | | THANKS
| | |
| | | Robo
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | | |
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Joe
| | | |
| | | | Forum Crafters:
| | | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much $
| | | | either).
| | | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| | | |
| | | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | | |
| | | | thanks
| | | |
| | | | robo
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't have
| | | to
| | | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| | from
| | | | the
| | | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | | reminding
| | | | | me.
| | | | |
| | | | | R.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | | something.
| | | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | | | putting
| | | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| | seems
| | | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and FrontPage
| | | gets
| | | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in FrontPage
| | | but
| | | | | it's
| | | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| | could
| | | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either
| | way.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| | | like
| | | | to
| | | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting on
| | | | | Delphi
| | | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| | alumni
| | | | (or
| | | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| | maybe
| | | | | 1000,
| | | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe 10-30.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since no
| | | one
| | | | | pays
| | | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Thanks,
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Rob
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my
| | sql
| | | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php my
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | | software's
| | | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| | | script
| | | | | to
| | | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| | | hour
| | | | or
| | | | | | | less.
| | | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | | running
| | | | | with
| | | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great "portal"
| | | nice
| | | | | and
| | | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| | | it's
| | | | | | super
| | | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
| | of
| | | | all
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| | they
| | | | did.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to learn
| | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but I
| | | | really
| | | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | | | finally
| | | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows server -
| | | now
| | | | | I'm
| | | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will use
| | | the
| | | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on too -
| | | I'm
| | | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| | | aussie
| | | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Rob
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | | I
| | | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| | easier
| | | to
| | | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer
| | to
| | | | use
| | | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| | | using
| | | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct all
| | | | | flames
| | | | | | | and
| | | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | | | verified
| | | | | | | that
| | | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd say
| | | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts,
| | and
| | | | if
| | | | | | you
| | | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL is
| | | | pretty
| | | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | | | directly
| | | | | | in
| | | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance and
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | take
| | | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've only
| | | | used
| | | | | on
| | | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as
| | the
| | | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites
| | so
| | | my
| | | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure by.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| | wrote
| | | in
| | | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| | also.
| | | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think
| | they
| | | | do
| | | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB or
| | | | Snitz
| | | | | | for
| | | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| | | myself
| | | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing about
| | | any
| | | | | of
| | | | | | | the
| | | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| | it's
| | | | just
| | | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is
| | not
| | | | bad
| | | | | | but
| | | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
C

chris leeds

IMHO
it makes it a lot easier. you should put the whole download into a subweb
like I described. I'd leave the db in the subweb too. you can mark it as
"writable" using FrontPage's database connection wizard.

--
The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--


Really?

So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....

I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the
files yet, because dns hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the
registrar...should happen today or tomorrow if the aussie registry would
stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:

I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum
software will be the only use for the db.

=====semi related question=======
ok I have this database on this web.
i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use for
that web...can i cross access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??

Robo




| I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| best way to start:
| unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/
open
| web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project like
| this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
|
| HTH
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
message
| | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me.
Webwiz
| comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to
setup.
|
| I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
|
|
| | | Hi Rob,
| |
| | You are Welcome!
| |
| | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| |
| | 1. Web Wiz
| | 2. phpBB
| | 3. Snitz
| |
| | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer
the
| | other two more.
| |
| | --
| | Joe
| |
| | Forum Crafters:
| | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| |
| message
| | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| |
| | THANKS
| |
| | Robo
| |
| |
| | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | |
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | |
| | | --
| | | Joe
| | |
| | | Forum Crafters:
| | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much
$
| | | either).
| | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| | |
| | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | |
| | | thanks
| | |
| | | robo
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't
have
| | to
| | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| from
| | | the
| | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| all
| | | the
| | | | spam.
| | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | --
| | | |
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | reminding
| | | | me.
| | | |
| | | | R.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | something.
| | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | | putting
| | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | |
| | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| seems
| | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and
FrontPage
| | gets
| | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in
FrontPage
| | but
| | | | it's
| | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
in
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | |
| | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | |
| | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| could
| | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either
| way.
| | | | |
| | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| | like
| | | to
| | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | |
| | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting
on
| | | | Delphi
| | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| alumni
| | | (or
| | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| maybe
| | | | 1000,
| | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe
10-30.
| | | | |
| | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since
no
| | one
| | | | pays
| | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | | |
| | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | |
| | | | | Thanks,
| | | | |
| | | | | Rob
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my
| sql
| | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php
my
| | | admin
| | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | software's
| | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| | script
| | | | to
| | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| | hour
| | | or
| | | | | | less.
| | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | running
| | | | with
| | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great
"portal"
| | nice
| | | | and
| | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| | it's
| | | | | super
| | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got
tired
| of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
wrote
| in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| they
| | | did.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to
learn
| | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but
I
| | | really
| | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | | finally
| | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows
server -
| | now
| | | | I'm
| | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will
use
| | the
| | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on
too -
| | I'm
| | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| | aussie
| | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Rob
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | I
| | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| easier
| | to
| | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer
| to
| | | use
| | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| | using
| | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct
all
| | | | flames
| | | | | | and
| | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | | verified
| | | | | | that
| | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd
say
| | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts,
| and
| | | if
| | | | | you
| | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL
is
| | | pretty
| | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | | directly
| | | | | in
| | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance
and
| | | admin
| | | | | | take
| | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've
only
| | | used
| | | | on
| | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as
| the
| | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites
| so
| | my
| | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure
by.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| | in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| also.
| | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think
| they
| | | do
| | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB
or
| | | Snitz
| | | | | for
| | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| | myself
| | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing
about
| | any
| | | | of
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| it's
| | | just
| | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is
| not
| | | bad
| | | | | but
| | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
C

chris leeds

dude! yer freakin out and you don't even have the d/l ;-)
when you get it I'll help you directly if you want to help me debug my "live
help" simultaneously. I've done tons of these type of things and it's
really easy to use FrontPage in this capacity. believe me if it's easy for
me......It's easy.

--
The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
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you mean no to the cross accessing of access?
i've never worked with dbs on the web so forgive the noobness.
i can't set permissions from one web db to the other web db?

ps - sorry for all the questions, im the kinda guy that has to have it
allllll figured out in my peasized brain BEFORE i do it :)

| Create your subweb, then after download the app, unzip it, then select
everything and drag/drop into
| the current open subweb, when FP prompt to move the database, say no for
the moment, then read
| instructions for creating the connection, etc.
|
| In general the answer is no, but that depends on the permissions on the
site.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
|
| FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| ==============================================
| To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
|
message
| | Really?
|
| So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....
|
| I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the
files yet, because dns
| hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the registrar...should happen
today or tomorrow if the
| aussie registry would stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:
|
| I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
| Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum
software will be the only
| use for the db.
|
| =====semi related question=======
| ok I have this database on this web.
| i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use
for that web...can i cross
| access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
| WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
| WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??
|
| Robo
|
|
|
|
| | I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| | best way to start:
| | unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/
open
| | web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| | FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project
like
| | this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
| |
| | HTH
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
message
| | | | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me.
Webwiz
| | comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to
setup.
| |
| | I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
| |
| |
| | | | | Hi Rob,
| | |
| | | You are Welcome!
| | |
| | | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| | |
| | | 1. Web Wiz
| | | 2. phpBB
| | | 3. Snitz
| | |
| | | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer
the
| | | other two more.
| | |
| | | --
| | | Joe
| | |
| | | Forum Crafters:
| | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I
want.
| | | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| | |
| | | THANKS
| | |
| | | Robo
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | | |
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Joe
| | | |
| | | | Forum Crafters:
| | | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too
much $
| | | | either).
| | | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually
lame.
| | | |
| | | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | | |
| | | | thanks
| | | |
| | | | robo
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't
have
| | | to
| | | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| | from
| | | | the
| | | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
in
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | | reminding
| | | | | me.
| | | | |
| | | | | R.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | | something.
| | | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code
and
| | | | putting
| | | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| | seems
| | | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and
FrontPage
| | | gets
| | | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in
FrontPage
| | | but
| | | | | it's
| | | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got
tired of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
wrote in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| | could
| | | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm
either
| | way.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i
always
| | | like
| | | | to
| | | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been
hosting on
| | | | | Delphi
| | | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| | alumni
| | | | (or
| | | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| | maybe
| | | | | 1000,
| | | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe
10-30.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since
no
| | | one
| | | | | pays
| | | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance
:)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Thanks,
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Rob
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an
my
| | sql
| | | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the
php my
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | | software's
| | | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has
a
| | | script
| | | | | to
| | | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in
an
| | | hour
| | | | or
| | | | | | | less.
| | | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | | running
| | | | | with
| | | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great
"portal"
| | | nice
| | | | | and
| | | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into
it.
| | | it's
| | | | | | super
| | | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got
tired
| | of
| | | | all
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
wrote
| | in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| | they
| | | | did.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to
learn
| | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free,
but I
| | | | really
| | | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now.
I
| | | | finally
| | | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows
server -
| | | now
| | | | | I'm
| | | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will
use
| | | the
| | | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on
too -
| | | I'm
| | | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum
site...the
| | | aussie
| | | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Rob
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | | I
| | | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| | easier
| | | to
| | | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still
prefer
| | to
| | | | use
| | | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence
in
| | | using
| | | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct
all
| | | | | flames
| | | | | | | and
| | | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois)
and
| | | | | verified
| | | | | | | that
| | | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd
say
| | | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch
hosts,
| | and
| | | | if
| | | | | | you
| | | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL
is
| | | | pretty
| | | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do
much
| | | | directly
| | | | | | in
| | | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance
and
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | take
| | | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've
only
| | | | used
| | | | | on
| | | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much
as
| | the
| | | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of
sites
| | so
| | | my
| | | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure
by.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| | wrote
| | | in
| | | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| | also.
| | | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I
think
| | they
| | | | do
| | | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB
or
| | | | Snitz
| | | | | | for
| | | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install
it
| | | myself
| | | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing
about
| | | any
| | | | | of
| | | | | | | the
| | | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| | it's
| | | | just
| | | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz
is
| | not
| | | | bad
| | | | | | but
| | | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Crash_Gordon=AE?=

ah it's my job to freeque out :)

I was etawkin to the new server dood and he was really nice - I think he liked webwiz because:...I have a feeling he installed it for me for free...but I can't tell yet.

I can't mess with it yet since dns is still in transfer mode - can't get to it to see it.

I'll let ya know.
Lemme know when you wanna play with your live help thing...you have my email.

rob.


| dude! yer freakin out and you don't even have the d/l ;-)
| when you get it I'll help you directly if you want to help me debug my "live
| help" simultaneously. I've done tons of these type of things and it's
| really easy to use FrontPage in this capacity. believe me if it's easy for
| me......It's easy.
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
| | you mean no to the cross accessing of access?
| i've never worked with dbs on the web so forgive the noobness.
| i can't set permissions from one web db to the other web db?
|
| ps - sorry for all the questions, im the kinda guy that has to have it
| allllll figured out in my peasized brain BEFORE i do it :)
|
| | | Create your subweb, then after download the app, unzip it, then select
| everything and drag/drop into
| | the current open subweb, when FP prompt to move the database, say no for
| the moment, then read
| | instructions for creating the connection, etc.
| |
| | In general the answer is no, but that depends on the permissions on the
| site.
| |
| | --
| | ==============================================
| | Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| | WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| |
| | FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| | ==============================================
| | To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| |
| message
| | | | Really?
| |
| | So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....
| |
| | I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the
| files yet, because dns
| | hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the registrar...should happen
| today or tomorrow if the
| | aussie registry would stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:
| |
| | I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
| | Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum
| software will be the only
| | use for the db.
| |
| | =====semi related question=======
| | ok I have this database on this web.
| | i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use
| for that web...can i cross
| | access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
| | WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
| | WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??
| |
| | Robo
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | | | I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| | | best way to start:
| | | unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/
| open
| | | web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| | | FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project
| like
| | | this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
| | |
| | | HTH
| | |
| | | --
| | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| the
| | | spam.
| | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | --
| | |
| | |
| message
| | | | | | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me.
| Webwiz
| | | comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to
| setup.
| | |
| | | I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | Hi Rob,
| | | |
| | | | You are Welcome!
| | | |
| | | | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| | | |
| | | | 1. Web Wiz
| | | | 2. phpBB
| | | | 3. Snitz
| | | |
| | | | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer
| the
| | | | other two more.
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Joe
| | | |
| | | | Forum Crafters:
| | | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I
| want.
| | | | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| | | |
| | | | THANKS
| | | |
| | | | Robo
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | | | |
| | | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Joe
| | | | |
| | | | | Forum Crafters:
| | | | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too
| much $
| | | | | either).
| | | | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually
| lame.
| | | | |
| | | | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | | | |
| | | | | thanks
| | | | |
| | | | | robo
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't
| have
| | | | to
| | | | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| | | from
| | | | | the
| | | | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
| of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | | | reminding
| | | | | | me.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | R.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | | | something.
| | | | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code
| and
| | | | | putting
| | | | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| | | seems
| | | | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and
| FrontPage
| | | | gets
| | | | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in
| FrontPage
| | | | but
| | | | | | it's
| | | | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got
| tired of
| | | | all
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| wrote in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| | | could
| | | | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm
| either
| | | way.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i
| always
| | | | like
| | | | | to
| | | | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been
| hosting on
| | | | | | Delphi
| | | | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| | | alumni
| | | | | (or
| | | | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| | | maybe
| | | | | | 1000,
| | | | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe
| 10-30.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since
| no
| | | | one
| | | | | | pays
| | | | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance
| :)
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Thanks,
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Rob
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an
| my
| | | sql
| | | | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the
| php my
| | | | | admin
| | | | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | | | software's
| | | | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has
| a
| | | | script
| | | | | | to
| | | | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in
| an
| | | | hour
| | | | | or
| | | | | | | | less.
| | | | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | | | running
| | | | | | with
| | | | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great
| "portal"
| | | | nice
| | | | | | and
| | | | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into
| it.
| | | | it's
| | | | | | | super
| | | | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got
| tired
| | | of
| | | | | all
| | | | | | | the
| | | | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| | | in
| | | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| | | they
| | | | | did.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to
| learn
| | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free,
| but I
| | | | | really
| | | | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now.
| I
| | | | | finally
| | | | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows
| server -
| | | | now
| | | | | | I'm
| | | | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will
| use
| | | | the
| | | | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on
| too -
| | | | I'm
| | | | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum
| site...the
| | | | aussie
| | | | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | Rob
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | | | I
| | | | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| | | easier
| | | | to
| | | | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still
| prefer
| | | to
| | | | | use
| | | | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence
| in
| | | | using
| | | | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct
| all
| | | | | | flames
| | | | | | | | and
| | | | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois)
| and
| | | | | | verified
| | | | | | | | that
| | | | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd
| say
| | | | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch
| hosts,
| | | and
| | | | | if
| | | | | | | you
| | | | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL
| is
| | | | | pretty
| | | | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do
| much
| | | | | directly
| | | | | | | in
| | | | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance
| and
| | | | | admin
| | | | | | | | take
| | | | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've
| only
| | | | | used
| | | | | | on
| | | | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much
| as
| | | the
| | | | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of
| sites
| | | so
| | | | my
| | | | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure
| by.
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| | | wrote
| | | | in
| | | | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| | | also.
| | | | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I
| think
| | | they
| | | | | do
| | | | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB
| or
| | | | | Snitz
| | | | | | | for
| | | | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install
| it
| | | | myself
| | | | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing
| about
| | | | any
| | | | | | of
| | | | | | | | the
| | | | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| | | it's
| | | | | just
| | | | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz
| is
| | | not
| | | | | bad
| | | | | | | but
| | | | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Crash_Gordon=AE?=

I'm chompin' at the bit to play with it!


| IMHO
| it makes it a lot easier. you should put the whole download into a subweb
| like I described. I'd leave the db in the subweb too. you can mark it as
| "writable" using FrontPage's database connection wizard.
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
| | Really?
|
| So, by frontpageification it makes it easier?....
|
| I don't want to get ahead of myself yet though. I haven't downloaded the
| files yet, because dns hasn't been transferred (still waiting on the
| registrar...should happen today or tomorrow if the aussie registry would
| stop drinkin Fosters) anyway...more basic question:
|
| I should put the forum in a subweb right? (i think yes)
| Should I or can I relocate the access db to the subweb as well? The forum
| software will be the only use for the db.
|
| =====semi related question=======
| ok I have this database on this web.
| i have another free database on another web that i'll probably never use for
| that web...can i cross access Access dbs? Inotherwords...
| WebA the one with the forum will use webA.mdb
| WebB has no use for a db, can WebA access webB.mdb??
|
| Robo
|
|
|
|
| | | I'm a nut for "frontpageification" of this type of script.
| | best way to start:
| | unzip the distro to a folder on your machine, then open FrontPage file/
| open
| | web and open the folder as if it were a web. Now the distribution is "a
| | FrontPage web", it's always seemed the easiest way to start a project like
| | this. then you can edit it and publish it to wherever you want.
| |
| | HTH
| |
| | --
| | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
| the
| | spam.
| | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | --
| |
| |
| message
| | | | I couldn't find that many mods for snitz. It also looks "flat" to me.
| Webwiz
| | comes closest to looking like phpbb. Webwiz also looks pretty easy to
| setup.
| |
| | I'm sure I'll have tons of questions once I start ;-)
| |
| |
| | | | | Hi Rob,
| | |
| | | You are Welcome!
| | |
| | | Just my personal order of preference..But I would go with this order:
| | |
| | | 1. Web Wiz
| | | 2. phpBB
| | | 3. Snitz
| | |
| | | Snitz probably has the most mods etc, available though. I just prefer
| the
| | | other two more.
| | |
| | | --
| | | Joe
| | |
| | | Forum Crafters:
| | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | |
| | message
| | | | | | Hey joe,,, I forgot you were using it! Looks great. Exactly what I want.
| | | I'm gonna go with that one...as soon as dns gets switched.
| | |
| | | THANKS
| | |
| | | Robo
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | | Live Web Wiz Forum..Access Database. is here:
| | | |
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Joe
| | | |
| | | | Forum Crafters:
| | | | http://www.forumcrafters.com
| | | | FrontPage Users Forums:
| | | | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| | | |
| | | message
| | | | | | | | you tawked me into it...and so far i like the webwiz one (not too much
| $
| | | | either).
| | | | if I can't find any others i'll probably go with that one.
| | | | did you say you have one running somewhere? - demos are usually lame.
| | | |
| | | | just hope access can handle more than 2 users at a time.
| | | |
| | | | thanks
| | | |
| | | | robo
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | | | | | | asp to an access db is the easiest with FrontPage since you won't
| have
| | | to
| | | | | have the admins set a folder or file as "writable". you can do it
| | from
| | | | the
| | | | | web(or site) properties dialog box.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
| | all
| | | | the
| | | | | spam.
| | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | --
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | I forgot all about webwiz...that one looks the coolest. thanks for
| | | | reminding
| | | | | me.
| | | | |
| | | | | R.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | forget the look. it's just a template or skin. you can skin
| | | something.
| | | | | | it's just like making a regular page then hunting for the code and
| | | | putting
| | | | | | it where you want it. (generally)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | IMHO, if you can use .asp I'd probably use the webwiz forum. it
| | seems
| | | | | | pretty nice. asp is just easier on my brain than php and
| FrontPage
| | | gets
| | | | | | along with it a lot better. not that you can't do php in
| FrontPage
| | | but
| | | | | it's
| | | | | | just easier with asp.
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired
| of
| | | all
| | | | | the
| | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | --
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| in
| | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | Hay Chris!
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I like the php look much better so far.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I probably will try to install it myself...what's the worst that
| | could
| | | | | | happen...my machine (or brain) will implode right? No harm either
| | way.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | I would install it in a subweb if it will work that way - i always
| | | like
| | | | to
| | | | | | keep that kind of thing separate if possible.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Use: To replace a High School Alumni forum that I've been hosting
| on
| | | | | Delphi
| | | | | | for a zillion years. I want more control and less cost for the
| | alumni
| | | | (or
| | | | | | whatever the plural is suppposed to be). A fair amount of users,
| | maybe
| | | | | 1000,
| | | | | | but there's never to many posting or reading at a time maybe
| 10-30.
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Yah I've seen the aspportal thing - I gotta keep cost down since
| no
| | | one
| | | | | pays
| | | | | | me to run this one, it comes out of my weekly lunch allowance :)
| | | | | |
| | | | | | the quest continues...
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Thanks,
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Rob
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | crash,
| | | | | | | trust me the php/ my sql stuff isn't so bad. usually with an my
| | sql
| | | | | | | database your host will give you administration through the php
| my
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | utility. it's easy to work with.
| | | | | | | I'd make a FrontPage subweb and put all the files from the bb
| | | | software's
| | | | | | | .zip into it. you can edit and publish with FrontPage.
| | | | | | | there should be a script in the distro for the forum that has a
| | | script
| | | | | to
| | | | | | | set up your db tables.
| | | | | | | $50 is a little high, you should be able to do it yourself in an
| | | hour
| | | | or
| | | | | | | less.
| | | | | | | I know I could, and I'm no guru. ;-) I got a php nuke up and
| | | running
| | | | | with
| | | | | | | FrontPage.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | btw what are you looking to use it for? there's a great
| "portal"
| | | nice
| | | | | and
| | | | | | | simple here:
| | | | | | | http://aspportal.net it's got a "forum" of sorts built into it.
| | | it's
| | | | | | super
| | | | | | | FrontPage compatible.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got
| tired
| | of
| | | | all
| | | | | | the
| | | | | | | spam.
| | | | | | | Please feel free to contact me here:
| | | | | | | http://nedp.net/contact/
| | | | | | | --
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| | in
| | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | hehee.. dunno how/why they run phpbb with access but they said
| | they
| | | | did.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | at least either one will get me started while/if I decide to
| learn
| | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | Actually I have another Linux host that has MySQL for free, but
| I
| | | | really
| | | | | | | wanted to try Windows server this time around.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | You probably found my site, just a construction sign for now. I
| | | | finally
| | | | | | | committed to redoing my old site and moved it to windows
| server -
| | | now
| | | | | I'm
| | | | | | | forced to get motivated. However that's not the site that will
| use
| | | the
| | | | | | | forum, but it is the same host the forum website will be on
| too -
| | | I'm
| | | | | | | waiting for dns transfer to go through for the forum site...the
| | | aussie
| | | | | | | registrar is a tad slow on that one.
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Welp.. thanks again!
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Rob
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I've never heard of anyone using phpbb with Access...kind of
| | | | | | blasphemous,
| | | | | | | I
| | | | | | | | believe. :)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plus side of using an Access file is that it should be
| | easier
| | | to
| | | | | | | backup.
| | | | | | | | Copy down the .mdb and you're done. That said, I still prefer
| | to
| | | | use
| | | | | | | MySQL.
| | | | | | | | Others will say otherwise, but I just don't have confidence in
| | | using
| | | | | | | Access
| | | | | | | | for anything other than a desktop database. (Please, direct
| all
| | | | | flames
| | | | | | | and
| | | | | | | | holy wars to dev@null.)
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | I just checked with who I _think_ is your host (ala whois) and
| | | | | verified
| | | | | | | that
| | | | | | | | they do charge a monthly fee for MySQL. Based on that, I'd
| say
| | | | | | definitely
| | | | | | | | go with the Access back end. :) But if you ever switch hosts,
| | and
| | | | if
| | | | | | you
| | | | | | | | have any confidence with SQL (the language) then using MySQL
| is
| | | | pretty
| | | | | | | | straightforward.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | For the purposes of the forums, you shouldn't need to do much
| | | | directly
| | | | | | in
| | | | | | | | the database to get your forums online. All the maintenance
| and
| | | | admin
| | | | | | | take
| | | | | | | | place in the phpbb interface. As for Snitz vs. phpbb, I've
| only
| | | | used
| | | | | on
| | | | | | | | Snitz forum that I can recall and I didn't like it as much as
| | the
| | | | | phpbb
| | | | | | | | sites I frequent. Then again, Snitz is used on a lot of sites
| | so
| | | my
| | | | | | | | uninformed opinion may not be the best yardstick to measure
| by.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | --
| | | | | | | | Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | "Crash Gordon®" <[email protected]>
| | wrote
| | | in
| | | | | | | message
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | The plan I'm on comes with MS Access standard, and PHP & ASP
| | also.
| | | | | | | | They say that PHPBB or Snitz will run with Access ok. I think
| | they
| | | | do
| | | | | | | charge
| | | | | | | | extra for any of the sql dbs. They will install either PHPBB
| or
| | | | Snitz
| | | | | | for
| | | | | | | | onetime fee of 50.00 - no extra monthly - or I can install it
| | | myself
| | | | | | (hmmm
| | | | | | | | can I or will I?? )
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | Point is that I can get around in Access, but know nothing
| about
| | | any
| | | | | of
| | | | | | | the
| | | | | | | | sql dbs at all. So if either will work with Access ok...then
| | it's
| | | | just
| | | | | | | | deciding whether to go with an ASP or PHP type forum. Snitz is
| | not
| | | | bad
| | | | | | but
| | | | | | | | doesn't look as nice as the phpbb ones do.
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
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