Slide Show "Advance After" xx Sec is "Broken" by PageUp Redisplay

[Guest]

My content owner and I (as PPT builder) have PPT 2002 and 2003 both available between us. Pls advise if one has a much better solution for the following than the other.

I'm building a PPT that will contain multiple alternating series of (Type1 followed by Type2) slides. Type1 slide attributes are set to "No Transition" and "Advance Slide Automatically After" 00:25. Type 2 needs to advance manually (either continuing to the next Type1, or returning to repeat the prior Type1) after the user clicks or presses anything we tell them to (in the Type2 body text) in order to either move forward or backward (as they wish).

Also, please note that we'll have various students running this PPT for a simple self-paced learning ap. We hope to use PPT Viewer on their PC's (either 2002 or 2003) to keep PPT license costs down, so please advise if any response to the following won't work with either or both of these viewers.

What can my Type2 slide tell the Slide Show's user to click or press in order to go back to the prior Type1 slide AND continue the timed Slide Show? PageUp and UpArrow from my Type2 slide do not work. Of course they do return the Slide Show to my prior (Type1, timed-advance) slide, but they unfortunately seem to "break" the runtime Slide Show, such that this Type1 slide no longer "remembers" to move on to its following Type2 slide after (another) 00:25. Auto Advance seems to "break" no matter what means I try to use to go back to the prior Type1 slide while running the Slide Show.

No option I've found under Set Up Show (PPT2003) seems to change this. And, neither the "Previous" nor the "Return" button from the Action Buttons menu (on my PPT2003), when added to my Type2 slide, will give me a TIMED redisplay of the prior Type1 slide. (I'm not sure if the "Custom" Action Button could - if so, please send specific programming details.)

Finally (after achieving that "timed replay"), I'd like to "lock down" the keyboard such that no other key (or button) other than those listed on my Type2 slide (see above) will have any effect while the learner is running this Slide Show. In particular, I don't want learners to accidentally break out of our runtime Slide Show, by accidentally leaning on the wrong key. Can you advise how to achieve such a "lockdown"? Note: if Esc cannot be locked down but everything else except the forward/back navigation buttons or keys listed on my Type2 slide can be locked down, that would be OK.

TUVM !!!
DewA

 

[B]

Good Morning,

The answer to why the auto-advance does not function is simple, but not
intuitive. The slide was not 'advanced into', it was backed into. The way
around this is to insert a blank auto-advance in 0:00 second slide prior to
the target, then link to this blank slide. The blank slide will advance
into the timed slide and life will be good again.

To lock-out the keyboard, you will need either a key trap, or to run the
show in kiosk mode. I'd recommend the latter. But because it locks out all
keys, you will need to provide links or mouse click advances to the user for
navigation.

B

My content owner and I (as PPT builder) have PPT 2002 and 2003 both

available between us. Pls advise if one has a much better solution for the
following than the other.

I'm building a PPT that will contain multiple alternating series of (Type1

followed by Type2) slides. Type1 slide attributes are set to "No Transition"
and "Advance Slide Automatically After" 00:25. Type 2 needs to advance
manually (either continuing to the next Type1, or returning to repeat the
prior Type1) after the user clicks or presses anything we tell them to (in
the Type2 body text) in order to either move forward or backward (as they
wish).

Also, please note that we'll have various students running this PPT for a

simple self-paced learning ap. We hope to use PPT Viewer on their PC's
(either 2002 or 2003) to keep PPT license costs down, so please advise if
any response to the following won't work with either or both of these
viewers.

What can my Type2 slide tell the Slide Show's user to click or press in

order to go back to the prior Type1 slide AND continue the timed Slide Show?
PageUp and UpArrow from my Type2 slide do not work. Of course they do return
the Slide Show to my prior (Type1, timed-advance) slide, but they
unfortunately seem to "break" the runtime Slide Show, such that this Type1
slide no longer "remembers" to move on to its following Type2 slide after
(another) 00:25. Auto Advance seems to "break" no matter what means I try to
use to go back to the prior Type1 slide while running the Slide Show.

No option I've found under Set Up Show (PPT2003) seems to change this.

And, neither the "Previous" nor the "Return" button from the Action Buttons
menu (on my PPT2003), when added to my Type2 slide, will give me a TIMED
redisplay of the prior Type1 slide. (I'm not sure if the "Custom" Action
Button could - if so, please send specific programming details.)

Finally (after achieving that "timed replay"), I'd like to "lock down" the

keyboard such that no other key (or button) other than those listed on my
Type2 slide (see above) will have any effect while the learner is running
this Slide Show. In particular, I don't want learners to accidentally break
out of our runtime Slide Show, by accidentally leaning on the wrong key. Can
you advise how to achieve such a "lockdown"? Note: if Esc cannot be locked
down but everything else except the forward/back navigation buttons or keys
listed on my Type2 slide can be locked down, that would be OK.

 

[Guest]

Thanks B! This worked like a charm!

So to restate for clarity of other readers, I confirm that I can "back into" any slide that has its auto-advance set to 0:00 in PPT2003 (and PPT Viewer 2003) and that slide WILL still auto-advance. But, I can NOT "back into" any slide that has its auto-advance set to any time > 0:00 or that slide will NOT auto-advance. Why respect EITHER, if MS really thinks all timings should be ignored in "Go Back" mode

As you say, that is NOT intuitive (and it will force me to add scores of otherwise-unnecessary blank slides)! I have to wonder what MS was thinking when they implemented this seemingly inconsistent default. Perhaps it was an unintended coding artifact that has since become "a feature"??

Anyway, I will give MS a feature request to add a "Respect Timings" check box to the Hyperlink options for their "Back" and "Return" Action Buttons (since the latest PPT 2003 still doesn't support "Go-back with Timing").

Again - thanks, B!!

DewA

 

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slide from it's previous slide. Here is a KB article for PowerPoint 2000
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;197701&Product=ppt

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