Size of picture in Word 2007

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Guest

Hi,
when I want to insert the picture into MS Word 2007 (by Insert Picture,
CTRL+V),... - everytime the size of picture is smaller (width, height).

What I mean - I have a picture 800x600 pixels. When I want to insert it into
Word, the size will change to 150x100. I know it's possible to change it
manually. But it's not OK if I am doing it very often. The only what I need -
to keep the original size of the picture.

Can anybody help me?
Regards, Jiri
 
R

Robert M. Franz (RMF)

Hi Jiri

Jiri said:
when I want to insert the picture into MS Word 2007 (by Insert Picture,
CTRL+V),... - everytime the size of picture is smaller (width, height).

You mean, either by Insert | Picture _or_ by using CTRL-C/CTRL-V (from
where are you copying it in the latter case?), correct?

What I mean - I have a picture 800x600 pixels. When I want to insert it into
Word, the size will change to 150x100.

Are you positive about the figures here? 800x600 means an aspect ratio
of 4:3, 150x100 3:2. That would mean your picture is not only rescaled,
but also skewed?

What kind of picture files are we dealing with here? Word is not
(usually) an HTML editor, and only with such an application a picture is
usually laid out by pixels only. If your picture file also has a
resolution, that means it has a predefined dimension axb cm (or inches).
I know it's possible to change it
manually. But it's not OK if I am doing it very often. The only what I need -
to keep the original size of the picture.

"Size" is usually not indicated in pixels (unless you're dealing with
web stuff), but with actual heightxwidth.

2cents
Robert
 
G

Guest

Hi Robert,
exactly. The result is same in both cases - when I will insert it by Insert
- Picture and CTRL+C and CTRL+V. In both cases - source is OK, result in Word
- too small.

About pixels/HeightAndWidth - it was just example. The same with ration 3:2.

Ok, now I probably found where is the problem. When I insert the picture
into MS Word, so the height, width is the same like original.

So, is it possible to increase it be default during inserting?

Regards, Jiri
 
R

Robert M. Franz (RMF)

Jiri said:
Ok, now I probably found where is the problem. When I insert the picture
into MS Word, so the height, width is the same like original.

I've once (in 2003) observed what happens when copying from PPT into
Word (through Edit | Paste Special). What Word usually does is insert
the picture in the dimension that the clipboard tells it. But if the
picture is larger than the text layer area (as defined as page size
minus margins), it scales down the picture accordingly (by maintaining
the aspect ratio) until both sides fit.

So, is it possible to increase it be default during inserting?

Yes, you can create a macro that does basically insert whatever it finds
in the clipboard, and sizes it to your wishes.

The following post (in a German group) lists a macro created by Shauna
Kelly that does that and a little more. You have to adjust the one
ocurrence of "15.4" in the lower half of the code to your body text width.

HTH
Robert
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Jiri,

I'm sure Robert will be along to add the link shortly to the macro he mentioned in the prior message :) I started this message
below very late at night so it may need some clarification later <g>.

Word 2007 has different rules than prior versions for handling graphics sizing. I've been told that it was what they meant to do,
to solve some complaints about 'confusion' on sizing in the past, but it's not entirely clear that the implementation succeeded as
well as the idea :)


If you right click on the picture you inserted and choose "size"what does it show at the bottom of the dialog for the 'original
size' and for percent reduction?

(The reset button should 'grow it' back to that size if it's different than what you currently have), as should the 'Reset Picture'
button on the Picture Tools=>Format tab in the 'Adjust group' (when a picture is selected).

What file format was the picture saved in and what app and version did you use to create it?

If the picture includes an embedded graphic size in Pixels per Inch (PPI) (JPG for example has that ability, GIF does not) then
Word tries to honor that. If not, since pixels don't have a 'size' of their own, Word scales the inserted/pasted picture, but does
it differently in Word 2007 than it did in Word 2000, 2002 and 2003. In those earlier versions, if the graphic did not have an
embedded PPI value Word woudl use the setting in
Tools=>Options=>General=>Web Options.
In Word 2007 the settings are still available, under
File Button=>Word Options=>Advanced=>General=>Web Options
but Word ignores the Picture pixel per inch settings and defaults to 96 Pixels per inch (screen resolution)

In Word 2007 the result can vary by the view you're in when inserting the graphic.

If, for example, you insert the graphic while in Web Layout view Word will accept the whole thing based on 'pixel size' as long as
it calculates that size to be under 22" in each direction (Word's maximum printed page size).

If, in Word 2007, you insert it in Print layout view Word tries to fit oversized pictures within the margin boundaries (page, text
box, frame, or drawing canvas, even, (at least on Insert into a 'page' for pictures not text wrapped as inline with text it tries
to not float things past the margins now.

If your picture extends beyond the margins in Print Layout view, select it, cut it and then paste it back and Word 2007 will likely
try to 'resize' it to fit the page margins.

If you're not sure if your graphic has them you can use a program such as http://irfanview.com, open the graphic and look at the
picture information screen for DPI, or you can open MS Office Picture Manager to look at the properties of your pictures. JPEGs
with no internal PPI setting are reported at 96PPI, but basically the value reported in Picture Manager picture Properties [More
settings] are what Word 2007 is using as a 'sizing figurerouter' tool.


To get the legacy (prior version rules), you can use
Insert=>Shapes=>New Drawing Canvas
and then Insert a picture in the canvas.

First legacy choice - Use the Pixel per inch detail stored in the actual graphic.

Limitation on first legacy choice - If the picture would be bigger than the boundaries of its container (page, text box, drawing
canvas, etc) then the inserted picture's stored settings for Pixel per Inch are overriden by the size limits of the container.


Second/fallback choice - If
if there are no PPI settings in the picture Word uses the Web Options=>Pictures=>Pixels per inch setting, not the default 96PPI,
unless the picture is bigger than the canvas size.

Table cells - Iceberg rules: If you insert a picture in a text box, the picture would usuallyshould be limited to the size of the
text box, but if you insert it in a table cell Word resizes based on the document margins (it's sort of in-but-under the table at
the same time). You can, for example see in the Word properties for a graphic that Word believes (and shows in the picture
properties) that the graphic is sized based on the page margin, not the table cell, but all you might see is the part visible in the
text box, which would usually be smaller.

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Hi Robert,
exactly. The result is same in both cases - when I will insert it by Insert
- Picture and CTRL+C and CTRL+V. In both cases - source is OK, result in Word
- too small.

About pixels/HeightAndWidth - it was just example. The same with ration 3:2.

Ok, now I probably found where is the problem. When I insert the picture
into MS Word, so the height, width is the same like original.

So, is it possible to increase it be default during inserting?

Regards, Jiri >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 

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