Show the entire drive regardless of the BIOS capability???

[Kenny S]

Someone on these newsgroups posted this information:

"If you are running XP with SP2, and the 200G drive is a second drive
to the one that is already in the PC, run XP's Disk Management. It
should show the entire drive regardless of the BIOS capability. Use
Disk Managment to partition and format."

Is this true? If my bios:
Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG
07/18/03
07/18/2003-P4X400-8235-6A6LXE19C-00

does not see the 200 GB drive in ints entirety will XPSP2 be able to use the
full Drive?


Why is ths infomation not available to the public? What bios supports what
hard drives....

Thanks in advance

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi Kenny,

The BIOS has to be capable of 48-bit LBA and you must have at least SP1
installed to use a drive larger than 137GB on an atapi-connected disk drive.
A workaround is to attach the drive to a pci controller card (most available
now support it, and do not rely on the BIOS) rather than the IDE cable if
the BIOS does not support 48-bit LBA. Check with the motherboard maker to
see if the system supports 48-bit LBA or not, and if there is an updated
BIOS available that does. All this information is publicly available on
various support sites and manufacturer pages, you just have to search a bit
for it.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Kenny S]

I have tried to find out if it supports lba 48 bit by:

-Calling my local dealer (they have no idea)
-Sending Email for support at matsonic.com (tried twice and never got a
reply)
- Searching the Matsonic site (found nothing)
- Reading the manuals (found nothing)
- Looking in the bios (found nothing)
- Searching Google, and Google Groups (found nothing)


now I found a page that has all the international branches of matsonic and
sent emails.

If that fails I will start calling long distance ( I am in europe) to
matsonic USA.


I have tried everything and I cant find this simple information......

 

[Yves Leclerc]

If you can not get 48Bit LBA to work on your system then your main recourse
is to buy a separate IDE/ATA PCI controller card. This card does not rely
on the motherboard BIOS since it includes its own. It still requires SP1 or
SP2 in order to use the complete drive.

 

[Jim Macklin]

| >> Is this true? If my bios:
| >> Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG
| >> 07/18/03
| >> 07/18/2003-P4X400-8235-6A6LXE19C-00

This is recent technology and revisions. It does support
LBA48. I did a search on Google for the BIOS and quickly
found lots of data. Here is a sample of what I found
http://www.48bitlba.com/
http://www.esupport.com/techsupport/index.cfm
http://www.phoenix.com/en/Customer+...oenixBIOS+and+AwardBIOS+Documents/default.htm
This is a two-line URL, if you don't have the entire link,
copy and paste it into your browser. This last page has all
the data on the BIOS.

The secret of doing a Google search is picking out the
subject, paste this into Google "Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG"
to begin.

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.



|I have tried to find out if it supports lba 48 bit by:
|
| -Calling my local dealer (they have no idea)
| -Sending Email for support at matsonic.com (tried twice
and never got a
| reply)
| - Searching the Matsonic site (found nothing)
| - Reading the manuals (found nothing)
| - Looking in the bios (found nothing)
| - Searching Google, and Google Groups (found nothing)
|
|
| now I found a page that has all the international branches
of matsonic and
| sent emails.
|
| If that fails I will start calling long distance ( I am in
europe) to
| matsonic USA.
|
|
| I have tried everything and I cant find this simple
information......
|
|
|
| | > Hi Kenny,
| >
| > The BIOS has to be capable of 48-bit LBA and you must
have at least SP1
| > installed to use a drive larger than 137GB on an
atapi-connected disk
| > drive. A workaround is to attach the drive to a pci
controller card (most
| > available now support it, and do not rely on the BIOS)
rather than the IDE
| > cable if the BIOS does not support 48-bit LBA. Check
with the motherboard
| > maker to see if the system supports 48-bit LBA or not,
and if there is an
| > updated BIOS available that does. All this information
is publicly
| > available on various support sites and manufacturer
pages, you just have
| > to search a bit for it.
| >
| > --
| > Best of Luck,
| >
| > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
| >
| > Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
| >
| > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
| >
| > | >>
| >> Someone on these newsgroups posted this information:
| >>
| >> "If you are running XP with SP2, and the 200G drive is
a second drive
| >> to the one that is already in the PC, run XP's Disk
Management. It
| >> should show the entire drive regardless of the BIOS
capability. Use
| >> Disk Managment to partition and format."
| >>
| >> Is this true? If my bios:
| >> Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG
| >> 07/18/03
| >> 07/18/2003-P4X400-8235-6A6LXE19C-00
| >>
| >> does not see the 200 GB drive in ints entirety will
XPSP2 be able to use
| >> the full Drive?
| >>
| >>
| >> Why is ths infomation not available to the public? What
bios supports
| >> what hard drives....
| >>
| >> Thanks in advance
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Alex Nichol]

"If you are running XP with SP2, and the 200G drive is a second drive
to the one that is already in the PC, run XP's Disk Management. It
should show the entire drive regardless of the BIOS capability. Use
Disk Managment to partition and format."

Is this true?

AFAIK it is not. XP will take the report on the disk's size sent to it
from BIOS through the DMPI

 

[Kenny S]

what does "XP will take the report on the disk's size sent to it
from BIOS through the DMPI"
acctually mean lol, in english?

How do you know that it is not?

Where did you find this information because I havent been able to find
anything

 

[JJ]

AIDA32 list the information that you seek under storage / ATA. AIDA32 can be
downloaded for free. My three year old MSI board is listed as not supported.
JJ

 

[Kenny S]

I have tried EVEREST. The only thing that does is sends you to a site were
they sell bios upgrades for
60 $

 

[Malke]

I have tried EVEREST. The only thing that does is sends you to a site
were they sell bios upgrades for
60 $

You are looking in the wrong place then. Here is the link for the free
Everest Home program from Lavalys:

http://www.lavalys.com/index.php?page=product&view=1

Malke

 

[Jim Macklin]

Bull


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


|I have tried EVEREST. The only thing that does is sends you
to a site were
| they sell bios upgrades for
| 60 $
|
|
|
in message
| | > Try EVEREST from www.lavalys.com It is the follow on
| > program to AIDA32.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > | > | AIDA32 list the information that you seek under
storage /
| > ATA. AIDA32 can be
| > | downloaded for free. My three year old MSI board is
listed
| > as not supported.
| > | JJ
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > I have tried to find out if it supports lba 48 bit
by:
| > | >
| > | > -Calling my local dealer (they have no idea)
| > | > -Sending Email for support at matsonic.com (tried
twice
| > and never got a
| > | > reply)
| > | > - Searching the Matsonic site (found nothing)
| > | > - Reading the manuals (found nothing)
| > | > - Looking in the bios (found nothing)
| > | > - Searching Google, and Google Groups (found
nothing)
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > now I found a page that has all the international
| > branches of matsonic and
| > | > sent emails.
| > | >
| > | > If that fails I will start calling long distance ( I
am
| > in europe) to
| > | > matsonic USA.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > I have tried everything and I cant find this simple
| > information......
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
message
| > | > | > | > > Hi Kenny,
| > | > >
| > | > > The BIOS has to be capable of 48-bit LBA and you
must
| > have at least SP1
| > | > > installed to use a drive larger than 137GB on an
| > atapi-connected disk
| > | > > drive. A workaround is to attach the drive to a
pci
| > controller card
| > | (most
| > | > > available now support it, and do not rely on the
BIOS)
| > rather than the
| > | IDE
| > | > > cable if the BIOS does not support 48-bit LBA.
Check
| > with the
| > | motherboard
| > | > > maker to see if the system supports 48-bit LBA or
not,
| > and if there is
| > | an
| > | > > updated BIOS available that does. All this
information
| > is publicly
| > | > > available on various support sites and
manufacturer
| > pages, you just have
| > | > > to search a bit for it.
| > | > >
| > | > > --
| > | > > Best of Luck,
| > | > >
| > | > > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
| > | > >
| > | > > Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
| > | > >
| > | > > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
| > | > >
| > | > > | > | > >>
| > | > >> Someone on these newsgroups posted this
information:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> "If you are running XP with SP2, and the 200G
drive
| > is a second drive
| > | > >> to the one that is already in the PC, run XP's
Disk
| > Management. It
| > | > >> should show the entire drive regardless of the
BIOS
| > capability. Use
| > | > >> Disk Managment to partition and format."
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Is this true? If my bios:
| > | > >> Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG
| > | > >> 07/18/03
| > | > >> 07/18/2003-P4X400-8235-6A6LXE19C-00
| > | > >>
| > | > >> does not see the 200 GB drive in ints entirety
will
| > XPSP2 be able to
| > | use
| > | > >> the full Drive?
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Why is ths infomation not available to the
public?
| > What bios supports
| > | > >> what hard drives....
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Thanks in advance
| > | > >>
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Kenny S]

I know what I am saying .....

I know what everest is from lavalys... if YOU look closer it sends you to
www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfn?refererid=40
bios upgrades
and suggestions, when you click on BIOS, run it for your self and look.

I called them, they wanted 59.95 for a bios upgrade. My motherboard costs
45$ now...lol so the update would cost more than the motherboard.

Everest cannot give the information about if a bios can have 48 bit or not.

But I was finally contacted by matsonic, they told me for sure that the
current bios does in fact support larget drives than 137 gb.

Now I can go buy the disk knowing that it will work.

 

[Jim Macklin]

BIOS upgrade are almost always free from the mobo
manufacturer or computer company.

Here is what Lavaly's says...
http://www.lavalys.com/news.php?article=21&selcat=PN&lang=en
Did not see any offer to sell a $50 BIOS
Print view
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|I know what I am saying .....
|
| I know what everest is from lavalys... if YOU look closer
it sends you to
| www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfn?refererid=40
| bios upgrades
| and suggestions, when you click on BIOS, run it for your
self and look.
|
| I called them, they wanted 59.95 for a bios upgrade. My
motherboard costs
| 45$ now...lol so the update would cost more than the
motherboard.
|
| Everest cannot give the information about if a bios can
have 48 bit or not.
|
| But I was finally contacted by matsonic, they told me for
sure that the
| current bios does in fact support larget drives than 137
gb.
|
| Now I can go buy the disk knowing that it will work.
|
|
|
| | > Kenny S wrote:
| >
| >> I have tried EVEREST. The only thing that does is sends
you to a site
| >> were they sell bios upgrades for
| >> 60 $
| >
| > You are looking in the wrong place then. Here is the
link for the free
| > Everest Home program from Lavalys:
| >
| > http://www.lavalys.com/index.php?page=product&view=1
| >
| > Malke
| > --
| > MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
| > Elephant Boy Computers
| > www.elephantboycomputers.com
| > "Don't Panic!"
|
|

 

[Kenny S]

Here is a screen capture....Look at what is marked.

Bios upgrades and suggestion

ALso see that there is nothing there about LBA 48-bit

http://www.computerboom.net/_support/everest.jpg