Sharing the BCM database

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itlogic

I will try to make this as brief and as simple to understand as possible. I
have been trying to figure this out for 2 days and finally got it. I wanted
to pass this on in case anyone else might have a similar situation.

SOME HISTORY

I have my main PC with Vista. I have two users my wife and myself. My
account is named "Joe". I got a new laptop for Christmas, also Vista, where
the only account is mine and I also named it "Joe". They both belong to the
same workgroup, not a domain.

MY INTENTION

I wanted to give access to the BCM database on my main computer with BCM on
my laptop. First, I didn't completely understand how to accomplish this in a
workgroup. I've done it many times in a domain, but a workgroup is different.
After some research I figured out, in a workgroup environment, I had to have
an identical account on my main PC that matched the account on my laptop.

Easy enough. I simply added a password to my "Joe" account on the laptop,
then had to add "Joe" as a user with rights to share the BCM database on my
main PC and a temporary password that matched the password I had just set up
on the laptop account. That part was done in the Share Database tool of BCM
on my main PC.

THE PROBLEM

When I went to the databse utilities, on BCM on my main computer, to add the
account I had just set up on my laptop, I noticed a problem. I could not add
the user "Joe" because "Joe" was already the name of the account on my main
PC.

Normally, that wouldn't be an issue in a domain. In a domain the user name
is preceaded by the computer name. So "//computer1/Joe" and "//computer2/Joe"
would be two different Joe's. In a workgroup, you can only read accounts on
the computer hosting the database server. So, in this case, I technically had
"//mainpc/Joe" and "//sonylaptop/Joe", but because this was a workgroup, they
would both be setup as local accounts on the main PC as "//mainpc/Joe" and
"//mainpc/Joe". That is not possible, so the only way to remidy the problem
was to rename the account on the laptop.

Ok, that might have been a little technical. The bottom line, in a
workgroup, you cannot have two accounts sharing a databse with the same name
even if they are on seperate computers.

THE SOLUTION

On the laptop, I went to my Users Accounts in Control Panel. Went to my
"Joe" account and renamed it to "Joe02". Piece of cake right? Not so fast! I
still could't get them to connect. I added "Joe02" to my users list in BCM
and made the temporary password the same as the password I set for the
"Joe02" account. I must have tried a million things to no avail. I'm one of
those crazy people that can't stand having an unsolved problem. So, it wasn't
surprising to me that it was 3 AM and I had to get up in 2.5 hours to get
ready for work. I tried one more idea, but that didn't work. But, I did
notice something just before I shut it down. The error message read somthing
like "blah blah blah user Joe blah blah blah". I thought to mysef... Joe? I
renamed it to Joe02, why is it reporting Joe?

I continued to shut it down so I could take a nap before going to work. The
next day I was reading an article from the Microsoft KB about sharing
databases in a workgroup. It didn't say anything I hadn't read already,
except for one sentence I would have probably missed any other day. It said
something about changing names of an account was just for display and didn't
actually change the identification of the account.

So, that would explain why the error message was reporting Joe instead of
Joe02. I changed the display name to "Joe02", not the actual account name.
So, I renamed "Joe02" back to "Joe" and then created a new account called
"Joe02" with that same password. "Joe02" was already setup in my BCM database
utilitied on the main PC, so I didn't have to do anything there.

After the new "Joe02" account was created, I went to the New or Change
databse tool in BCM on the laptop. Connected to MAINPC and there it was! The
name of the database on my main PC. I connected and it worked like a charm.
Wooo hoooo!!

CONCLUSION

Ok, sorry that wasn't as short as I had intended it to be, but hopefully it
is understandable. So far everything works GREAT! Now I just have to reset
things in my Joe02 profile that was set in my Joe profile on my laptop
becuase when creating a new account, you get everything back to square one as
far as desktop preferences and settings.
 
C

Chris

Joe, thanks for your post! Hopefully this will help others with
similar configurations.

Chris [msft]
 
B

Bob Potocki

This worked great!!!!!!!!

Thank you , thank you , thank you!!!!!!!!!

Lots of people hand their laptop down, or keep it as a backup. Inevitable
two computers named bob.

Unbelievable that none of the forums or help services don't let you know you
have to create a completely new ID. Not just change the name on the
existing ID.

Really a lot of work to re-install outlook on the new ID too.

Thanks again.
 
L

Luther

This worked great!!!!!!!!

Thank you , thank you , thank you!!!!!!!!!

Lots of people hand their laptop down, or keep it as a backup.  Inevitable
two computers named bob.

Unbelievable that none of the forums or help services don't let you know you
have to create a completely new ID.  Not just change the name on the
existing ID.

Really a lot of work to re-install outlook on the new ID too.

Thanks again.




















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Microsoft is to blame for some of the confusion in these cases. To
make Windows more "friendly" the login name in the UI differs from the
name Windows uses internally. Sure "Joe" is friendlier than "Joe02",
but without any indication that a user name is really "Joe02" you can
go nuts trying to figure out why you can connect to a shared folder or
BCM.

Another problem with the above, is that as far as I can tell, the Home
editions don't give you any tools to manage those details. You have to
be aware of possible name mismatchs and know how to manipulate names
in the Registry to fix problems.

On top of that, the Home edition's default behavior is to convert
every user into user "guest" when acessing another PC. If aren't
aware of that, it'll be a while before you learn that you need to turn
that feature off. That's why some business applications say they will
only work with Professional versions or higher.
 

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