Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

P

Pierre Martin

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.
 
B

Bjarne Hansen /freya

Hi Pierre,

From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
work:
First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.

It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
Vista to see the two XP machines.

You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
things to check on the Vista machine:
->The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
case I think)
->In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
(I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
->Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
the firewalls on again.
->When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...

There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
that.

Other things I tried:
Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
the remote computer).

Good luck,
Bjarne
 
P

Pierre Martin

Just figured it out on the Vista Laptop.
Pinged the desktop by typing Ping 192.168.1.100 which is the IP address I
got off the router and I got 4 sent 4 answered so I guess I can ping the
desktop.
 
P

Pierre Martin

LLTD is activated
Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop
 
R

Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)

Can you ping it by name? if not, this is name resolution issue. Make sure
NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled. Or check this link.

Can't enable NetBIOS over TCP/IPI even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
restarting the PC, ... I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem
I have is that when I ...
www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?t=1170


--
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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
 
P

Pierre Martin

I can ping the XP desktop from the Vista laptop but not vice-versa. Got the
IP addresses from the DHCP clients table on the router. Laptop is
192.168.1.104 and desktop is 192.168.1.100
Can't find where to enable NetBIOS
 
B

Bjarne Hansen /freya

On my Vista box, I got to the NetBIOS by:
Control Panel -> Network and Sharing Center
Click on 'Manage Network Connections. You should see a list of ntwk
adapter(s).
Right-click on the ntwk adapter you are using:select Properties.
In the Networking tab, highlight the Internet Protocol Version 4(TCP/IPv4)
entry.
Click on the Properties button.
In the General tab, click on the Advanced button.
In the WINS tab, there should be several radio buttons for NetBIOS settings.
Choose the Enable NetBIOS option, and <OK> your way back out of the dialog
boxes...

Hope this helps,
Bjarne
 
M

Mick Murphy

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard
 
P

Pierre Martin

I have tried everything and still can't see the XP desktop from the Vista
laptop.
Situation is as follows;
Can see desktop/printer from second XP Desktop so desktop appears to be
properly configured for file and printer sharing.
Can ping desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop
All computers have internet access and same workgroup name
 
C

Chuck [MVP]

"Mick Murphy" wrote:
I have tried everything and still can't see the XP desktop from the Vista
laptop.
Situation is as follows;
Can see desktop/printer from second XP Desktop so desktop appears to be
properly configured for file and printer sharing.
Can ping desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop
All computers have internet access and same workgroup name

Do some diagnostics, and isolate the problem. Look at logs from "browstat
status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation",
from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!) (note the command window in Vista):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 
P

Pierre Martin

Network setup is;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys wireless router
XPHome desktop wireless + ip4200 printer
Vista home basic laptop wireless

Private network, all comps have same Workgroup name and all 3 see Internet
All 3 have file sharing turned on and have Norton 360
Can see wireless desktop from wired desktop
Can see wired desktop from wireless desktop but access is denied(not a
problem for now)
Can't see laptop from either desktop
Can't see either desktop from laptop
Can ping wireless desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop from from wireless desktop


Ran ipconfig /all on wireless desktop and got the following

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 5:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-44-FA-99

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Network
Adapter with SpeedBooster #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-B6-57-E4-4B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::216:b6ff:fe57:e44b%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 3 décembre 2007 06:35:49
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 4 décembre 2007 06:35:49

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%6
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-64
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.100%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ipconfig on Laptop says:

Windows IP Configuration

Wireless network connection
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
IPv4 address.......................192.168.1.104
Subnet mask.......................255.255.255.0
Default Gateway...................192.168.1.1

I just want to use the desktop's printer from the laptop!

Chuck said:
"Mick Murphy" wrote:
I have tried everything and still can't see the XP desktop from the Vista
laptop.
Situation is as follows;
Can see desktop/printer from second XP Desktop so desktop appears to be
properly configured for file and printer sharing.
Can ping desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop
All computers have internet access and same workgroup name

Do some diagnostics, and isolate the problem. Look at logs from "browstat
status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation",
from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!) (note the command window in Vista):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 
C

Chuck [MVP]

Network setup is;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys wireless router
XPHome desktop wireless + ip4200 printer
Vista home basic laptop wireless

Private network, all comps have same Workgroup name and all 3 see Internet
All 3 have file sharing turned on and have Norton 360
Can see wireless desktop from wired desktop
Can see wired desktop from wireless desktop but access is denied(not a
problem for now)
Can't see laptop from either desktop
Can't see either desktop from laptop
Can ping wireless desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop from from wireless desktop


Ran ipconfig /all on wireless desktop and got the following

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 5:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-44-FA-99

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Network
Adapter with SpeedBooster #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-B6-57-E4-4B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::216:b6ff:fe57:e44b%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 3 décembre 2007 06:35:49
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 4 décembre 2007 06:35:49

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%6
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-64
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.100%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ipconfig on Laptop says:

Windows IP Configuration

Wireless network connection
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
IPv4 address.......................192.168.1.104
Subnet mask.......................255.255.255.0
Default Gateway...................192.168.1.1

I just want to use the desktop's printer from the laptop!

OK, try reading about "ipconfig /all" and "browstat status". Even though the
logs from each may look like gobbledegook to you, they can be very useful when
you have a problem. You've given us "ipconfig /all" from Office, and nothing
useful from Laptop. How about "browstat status" from both too?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 
P

Pierre Martin

Thanks for getting back to me. The Vista on the laptop is in French, do you
need me to translate the ipconfig /all and Browstat results?
Ran browstat on the XP machine. Results are as follows;
Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5F360CE7-B211-4C98-921C-C539FB098A55}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus

Chuck said:
Network setup is;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys wireless router
XPHome desktop wireless + ip4200 printer
Vista home basic laptop wireless

Private network, all comps have same Workgroup name and all 3 see Internet
All 3 have file sharing turned on and have Norton 360
Can see wireless desktop from wired desktop
Can see wired desktop from wireless desktop but access is denied(not a
problem for now)
Can't see laptop from either desktop
Can't see either desktop from laptop
Can ping wireless desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop from from wireless desktop


Ran ipconfig /all on wireless desktop and got the following

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 5:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-44-FA-99

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Network
Adapter with SpeedBooster #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-B6-57-E4-4B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::216:b6ff:fe57:e44b%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 3 décembre 2007 06:35:49
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 4 décembre 2007 06:35:49

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%6
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-64
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.100%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ipconfig on Laptop says:

Windows IP Configuration

Wireless network connection
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
IPv4 address.......................192.168.1.104
Subnet mask.......................255.255.255.0
Default Gateway...................192.168.1.1

I just want to use the desktop's printer from the laptop!

OK, try reading about "ipconfig /all" and "browstat status". Even though the
logs from each may look like gobbledegook to you, they can be very useful when
you have a problem. You've given us "ipconfig /all" from Office, and nothing
useful from Laptop. How about "browstat status" from both too?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 
P

Pierre Martin

In case I don't need to translate it, here is the ipconfig /all fir the Vista
laptop

Configuration IP de Windows

Nom de l'hote . . . . . . . . . . : PC-de-Eliane
Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :
Type de noeud. . . . . . . . . . : Hybride
Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Non
Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Carte réseau sans fil Connexion réseau sans fil:

Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5007EG Wireless
Network Adapter
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-19-7E-72-20-1F
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Oui
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui
Adresse IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104(pr‚f‚r‚)
Masque de sous-réseau. . . .. . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Bail obtenu. . . . . . . . .. . . . . : 4 décembre 2007 09:10:27
Bail expirant. . . . . . . . .. . . . : 5 décembre 2007 09:10:50
Passerelle par défaut. . . .. . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Serveur DHCP . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Serveurs DNS. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
NetBIOS sur Tcpip. . . . . . . . . . . : Activé

Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local :

Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté
Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8038 PCI-E Fast
Ethernet Controller
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-24-3D-3B-89
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Oui
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui

Carte Tunnel Connexion au réseau local* :

Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté
Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{9F87095F-F93D-4FA8-99E7-B8F0BE71440B}
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Non
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui

Carte Tunnel Connexion au réseau local* 2 :

Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{449B4BC6-C984-4C20-B638-82C2A9A4DF09}
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Non
Configuration automatique activ‚e. . . : Oui
Adresse IPv6 de liaison locale. . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.104%11(pr‚f‚r‚)
Passerelle par défaut. . . .. . . . . :
Serveurs DNS. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
NetBIOS sur TCPIP. . . . . . . . . . . : Désactivé

Carte Tunnel Connexion au réseau local* 6 :

Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Non
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui
Adresse IPv6. . . . . . . . . . .:
2001:0:4136:e388:14a7:2a:3f57:fe97(pr‚f‚r‚)
Adresse IPv6 de liaison locale. . : fe80::14a7:2a:3f57:fe97%12(pr‚f‚r‚)
Passerelle par d‚faut. . . .. . . . . : ::
NetBIOS sur TCPIP. . . . . . . . . . . : Désactivé

Pierre Martin said:
Thanks for getting back to me. The Vista on the laptop is in French, do you
need me to translate the ipconfig /all and Browstat results?
Ran browstat on the XP machine. Results are as follows;
Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5F360CE7-B211-4C98-921C-C539FB098A55}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus

Chuck said:
:

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:24:01 -0800, Pierre Martin

:

:

LLTD is activated
Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop

:

Hi Pierre,

From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
work:
First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.

It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
Vista to see the two XP machines.

You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
things to check on the Vista machine:
->The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
case I think)
->In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
(I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
->Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
the firewalls on again.
->When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...

There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
that.

Other things I tried:
Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
the remote computer).

Good luck,
Bjarne

:

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard



I have tried everything and still can't see the XP desktop from the Vista
laptop.
Situation is as follows;
Can see desktop/printer from second XP Desktop so desktop appears to be
properly configured for file and printer sharing.
Can ping desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop
All computers have internet access and same workgroup name

Do some diagnostics, and isolate the problem. Look at logs from "browstat
status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation",
from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!) (note the command window in Vista):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
Network setup is;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys wireless router
XPHome desktop wireless + ip4200 printer
Vista home basic laptop wireless

Private network, all comps have same Workgroup name and all 3 see Internet
All 3 have file sharing turned on and have Norton 360
Can see wireless desktop from wired desktop
Can see wired desktop from wireless desktop but access is denied(not a
problem for now)
Can't see laptop from either desktop
Can't see either desktop from laptop
Can ping wireless desktop from laptop
Can't ping laptop from from wireless desktop


Ran ipconfig /all on wireless desktop and got the following

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 5:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-44-FA-99

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Network
Adapter with SpeedBooster #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-B6-57-E4-4B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::216:b6ff:fe57:e44b%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 3 décembre 2007 06:35:49
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 4 décembre 2007 06:35:49

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%6
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-64
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.100%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ipconfig on Laptop says:

Windows IP Configuration

Wireless network connection
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
IPv4 address.......................192.168.1.104
Subnet mask.......................255.255.255.0
Default Gateway...................192.168.1.1

I just want to use the desktop's printer from the laptop!

OK, try reading about "ipconfig /all" and "browstat status". Even though the
logs from each may look like gobbledegook to you, they can be very useful when
you have a problem. You've given us "ipconfig /all" from Office, and nothing
useful from Laptop. How about "browstat status" from both too?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 
C

Chuck [MVP]

In case I don't need to translate it, here is the ipconfig /all fir the Vista
laptop

Configuration IP de Windows

Nom de l'hote . . . . . . . . . . : PC-de-Eliane
Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :
Type de noeud. . . . . . . . . . : Hybride
Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Non
Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Carte réseau sans fil Connexion réseau sans fil:

Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5007EG Wireless
Network Adapter
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-19-7E-72-20-1F
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Oui
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui
Adresse IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104(pr‚f‚r‚)
Masque de sous-réseau. . . .. . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Bail obtenu. . . . . . . . .. . . . . : 4 décembre 2007 09:10:27
Bail expirant. . . . . . . . .. . . . : 5 décembre 2007 09:10:50
Passerelle par défaut. . . .. . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Serveur DHCP . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Serveurs DNS. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
NetBIOS sur Tcpip. . . . . . . . . . . : Activé

Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local :

Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté
Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8038 PCI-E Fast
Ethernet Controller
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-24-3D-3B-89
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Oui
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui

Carte Tunnel Connexion au réseau local* :

Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté
Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{9F87095F-F93D-4FA8-99E7-B8F0BE71440B}
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Non
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui

Carte Tunnel Connexion au réseau local* 2 :

Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{449B4BC6-C984-4C20-B638-82C2A9A4DF09}
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Non
Configuration automatique activ‚e. . . : Oui
Adresse IPv6 de liaison locale. . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.104%11(pr‚f‚r‚)
Passerelle par défaut. . . .. . . . . :
Serveurs DNS. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.200.241.37
24.201.245.77
24.200.243.189
NetBIOS sur TCPIP. . . . . . . . . . . : Désactivé

Carte Tunnel Connexion au réseau local* 6 :

Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . :
Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Non
Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui
Adresse IPv6. . . . . . . . . . .:
2001:0:4136:e388:14a7:2a:3f57:fe97(pr‚f‚r‚)
Adresse IPv6 de liaison locale. . : fe80::14a7:2a:3f57:fe97%12(pr‚f‚r‚)
Passerelle par d‚faut. . . .. . . . . : ::
NetBIOS sur TCPIP. . . . . . . . . . . : Désactivé

So how about one more browstat log? This information is most useful when
presented for each computer involved - it saves a lot of guessing.

Right now, I'm guessing a NetBT setting mismatch, or a personal firewall
problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

Maybe an antivirus with an antiworm component, or another overlooked personal
firewall.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 
P

Pierre Martin

Hi Chuck
I have Norton 360 on the 3 comps
Removed it from the laptop
Checked Norton firewall settings on XP Desktop and under network had 3
SSID's and 1 Gateway Physical address(Didn't know what it was). Changed all
of them to Trusted.
Miracle!!
I can now see the XPdesktop and printer from the laptop.
Will reinstall Norton on laptop and configure firewall same as XPDesktop.
Learned a bit about networking in the process.
You're a good guy to have around when you're pulling out your hair.
Thank you very much
Pierre Martin
Pierrefonds, QC, Canada
 
C

Chuck [MVP]

Hi Chuck
I have Norton 360 on the 3 comps
Removed it from the laptop
Checked Norton firewall settings on XP Desktop and under network had 3
SSID's and 1 Gateway Physical address(Didn't know what it was). Changed all
of them to Trusted.
Miracle!!
I can now see the XPdesktop and printer from the laptop.
Will reinstall Norton on laptop and configure firewall same as XPDesktop.
Learned a bit about networking in the process.
You're a good guy to have around when you're pulling out your hair.
Thank you very much
Pierre Martin
Pierrefonds, QC, Canada

Hi Pierre,

It's good that one of us was able to save hair. ;-) I'm glad that I was able
to help you sort out the problem. Thanks for letting us know.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 

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