service pack 3, do I need it?

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k7mg

Since installing SP3 I have much trouble. Computer freezing, not able to
open program after about 3 minutes after booting, also not able to close any
open programs or even to shut down in a normal manner. I cannot even keep it
working long enough to uninstall SP3. If anyone can suggest how to solve
this please let me know. Thanks
 
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Shenan Stanley

k7mg said:
Since installing SP3 I have much trouble. Computer freezing, not
able to open program after about 3 minutes after booting, also not
able to close any open programs or even to shut down in a normal
manner. I cannot even keep it working long enough to uninstall
SP3. If anyone can suggest how to solve this please let me know.

Safe Mode --> System Restore.
 
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Pdigmking

Don't want it - don't download it - you realize my whole point is that
no one cares what you do with your computer system as long as you are
happy with it and you do not harm them directly or indirectly.

Actually, that's the problem, you seem to be preoccupied with proving
that you don't care what I do. I never asked anyone here to meet my
needs or care about me or my computer. This is a newsgroup, a place to
share information, in this case, about MS service pack 3. I'm not
interested in anything else here. I don't know what you care about, and
I dont' care.
It's the way things work - they will stop support for Windows XP with
SP2 in 2010.
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
Specifically:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifesupsps

Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 released on 17-Sep-2004 will
have its support retired on 13-Jul-2010. After that date - there will
be patches you will not be offered unless you have SP3 installed.

Once you strip away all crap about "needs", "caring", and snotty remarks
about my computers EoL and the fact that one can back-up data (I use
"Migrate Easy" to copy HDs by the way, and "Safe Sync" for back-ups) I am
left with the following information:

Were I to install SP3 it would be a 60-70MB download that would install
only those files that I have not previously installed.

No one knows how long this would take on my machine, it could be anywhere
from 30 minutes to over an hour.

The only reason I've been consistantly given to install the SP is that in
Jul of 2010 I will no longer be able to get XP patches without SP3. Even
MS doesn't describe SP3 as a significant change to the OS of any kind,
the handful of new features added are of no use to me. No one has said
anything about this SP improving performance, or providing additional
security given the fact that I've been auto updating since I installed
SP2 years ago.

There may be over a 1000 patches in SP3 that I have not already
installed, but apparently I don't need those patches because my machine
is running just fine as it is. Looking at the list provided provided by
Shenen most of those patches are things I would have chosen to not
install in the first place, and a sample of five security patches found
none that I've not already installed.

Judging from posts at other places like PC magazine :

http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2008/05/windows_xp_service_pack_3
_actu.php

and even one post here, a significant number of people are experiencing
problems with this SP ranging from annoying to severe. It's not a
pandemic, but it's significant.

I realize no one cares what I do with my computer, but given the
information outlined here, I've decided to forgoe SP3 for now. I am a
photographer, I'm running one PC, a wireless router with a couple laptops
in the house. I'm not rolling out any new systems, or connecting to
multiple routers that may be dumping packets or anything so I don't need
the additional features in SP3, nor do I appear to need the any of the
patches that I may not have gotten already. Very few people are
reporting improved performance after installing SP3, most just seem to be
relieved that their system is still running at all.

I'm not interested in experimenting with SP3 to see if will or won't
crash my system, and I'm not interested in spending hours preparing back
ups to restore my system if SP3 does crash it.

By the way, Craig, I found that I already have Frame.net 2 and five or
six others installed.

For all I know in two years MS won't be supporting XP at all anymore so
continuing patches will be moot point. I may very well have a new
computer by then, and would probably opt for Vista instead of XP anyways.
By then they should have most of the Vista bugs worked out.

I just don't think given my situation SP3 is worth the risk. I need to
be using my computer, not screwing around with it.

I'm sharing my reasoning here because others, in similar situations to my
own, may wish to make the decision.

Paul.
 
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peter

Did you not answer your own question when you said updates will not be
supported for SP2 after 2010???
Actually...the decision ultimately is yours to make and since support for
SP2 wont stop for 2 years....you have 2 years to decide!!!
I personally always wait a few months before installing a major update like
SP2 ..SP3...that way some of the bugs get fixed.
No update is absolutely necesary............
pk



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DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)
 
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Robert Moir

Pdigmking said:
A little less "snot" would make these responses more helpful.

So might a little less "I already know my answer but I'll ask anyway to jerk
you all around".
 
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Pdigmking

Select quotes:
Did you not answer your own question when you said updates will not be
supported for SP2 after 2010???
Actually...the decision ultimately is yours to make and since support
for SP2 wont stop for 2 years....you have 2 years to decide!!!
I personally always wait a few months before installing a major update
like SP2 ..SP3...that way some of the bugs get fixed.
No update is absolutely necesary............
pk


"Why don't you go to MS and do some research on your own, smart ass."

"So might a little less "I already know my answer but I'll ask anyway to
jerk you all around". "


Man- what a bunch of piss-ants. I did not answer my own question, Shenan
provided the information that MS will stop supporting non-SP3 systems in
two years, ( amongst other things ) I didn't know that when I posted my
original question. Why do you guys keep pointing out that this is my
decision as if it's some kind of shrewd insight? Duh. Necessary
updates? One assumes that MS releases these updates for a reason, what
are you saying- no one needs any of them? I've been doing this for over
20 years, the first OS I worked with was MS DOS, there was a time when
you had to type in an MIT address in order to get to newsgroups like
this. I don't mean to be a smart ass, but news groups were originally
set up for people share information about research they were doing, and
discuss questions they had. An astute observer would deduce from my many
references to the MS PDF, and othter messege boards, that my inquiry at
this newsgroup was not my only attempt find information about the SP. I
was inclinded to skip this update, but prudent human beings recognize the
limits of their knowledge and seek additional information before making a
decision. I'm not jerking anyone around here, I was prepared to install
the SP if someone had some information about it that indicated it was
worth the potential risk. The fact that I didn't change my mind about
the SP doesn't mean I'm jerking anyone around. I don't know why so many
of you have such a bizzare attitude, maybe I'm talking to a bunch of 13
year olds, but I remind you, the name of this newsgroup:
microsoft.PUBLIC.windowsxp.perform_maintain. This isn't a private club,
deal with it.

Paul.
 
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SparkieCuddles01

Hey pdigmking! you are right the snot really is coming out there! Someone is
being huffy and almighty! Public relations class you think?
 
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Shenan Stanley

SparkieCuddles01 said:
Hey pdigmking! you are right the snot really is coming out there!
Someone is being huffy and almighty! Public relations class you
think?

No snot from me - I do see it from you and pdigmking...
 

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