ok, my apologies for
not explaining the
recovery console a
bit further.
here is link for additional
info of it. go to the second
section "how to use the
recovery console"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307654
basically, it entails
logging into the disk system,
similar to logging into
the windows system.
some people have more
than one operating system,
but for most regular folks
entering the number 1 will
log you into that line item.
then most people don't
use passwords for logging
into windows, so simply
pressing the enter key
will bypass those requests.
refer again to my prior posting
and once you get to the disk
prompt>:
run the checkdisk
also you might want
to run before the above
and then afterwards:
chkntfs.exe c:
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it is my belief that it
is imperative to complete
this checkdisk because the faulty
ones that had run numerously
and without success may have
created pending issues yet
to be resolved and finalized.
you can't be sure of anything
until a successful checkdisk
provides a confirmation.
just some added fyi:
the checkdisk and the
master boot record (mbr)
are linked together.
here is some read on
checkdisk which may
be enlightening.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457122.aspx
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I should also add that I checked for updates from Microsoft and there
were none. Also that I was able to make a System Restore Point but
wasn't able to strore it to an earlier date.
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ok, I tried to do this again but when I entered 1 and pressed enter it
restarted the computer. I guess it does need the adminstrator password
and perhaps I don't have the correct one, although I thought I did. If
indeed I am putting in the wrong one I don't know where or how to look
for the right one or to change it.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
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ok, I tried to do this again but when I entered 1 and pressed enter it
restarted the computer. I guess it does need the adminstrator password
and perhaps I don't have the correct one, although I thought I did. If
indeed I am putting in the wrong one I don't know where or how to look
for the right one or to change it.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
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ok, I tried to do this again but when I entered 1 and pressed enter it
restarted the computer. I guess it does need the adminstrator password
and perhaps I don't have the correct one, although I thought I did. If
indeed I am putting in the wrong one I don't know where or how to look
for the right one or to change it.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
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I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP2, Comodo firewall,
Superantispyware, Windows Defender, AVG, Spywareblaster.
I was away for a week and when I returned my computer had alot of
updates and emails. I thought that I had gone through the updates
correctly when I got a message that my computer had a serious problem.
I tried to do a System Restore but nothing happened.
It went through 'a process' came back with this reply:
The System has recovered from a serious error:
BCCode:f4 BCP1:000000003 BCP2:871D0340
BCP3:871D04b4 BCP4:805FA160
OSVer:5_1_2600 SP:2_0 Product: 768_1
After it gave me the above message I thought it best to reboot the
system to make sure all was normal, but it didn't come back up
normally. Instead in came up with the following.
Checking file system on C:
The type of file system in NTFS
One of your disks (I only have a C:drive and DVD/RW) needs to be
checked for consistency. You may cancel the disk check but it is
strongloy recommended that you continue. To skip disk checking, press
any key within 10 second(s).
1 of 3
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent
damage to your computer. If this is the first time you've seen this
stop error screen, restrat your computer(I did)
If this screen appears again follow these steps.
Check to make sure you have adequate disk space(I installed a new hard
drive several months ago which has more than enough disk space) If a
driver is indentified in the stop message, disable the driver or check
with the manufacturer for driver updates try changing viedo adapters.
Check with hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory
options such as caching, or shadowing.
If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart
your computer, press F8(actually F2=Setup, F12=boot menu) to select
advanced startup options and then select safe mode. (F8 doesn't do
anything)
Tecnical Information:
Stop 0X0000007E(OXF66BAC27 OXF7C4253C)
thespud.sys-address F66BAC27 base at F66A2000 Date stamp 3b8d7887
At present it has been in the above CHKDSK loop for 48 hours and
hasn't moved from 1 of 3 !@ I can't logon to my computer or do
anything because it's been disabled.
I would appreciate any advice/suggestions to help me resolve this
problem. I can't logon or do anything! It's as if it has a virus and
Chkdsk shouldn't take 2 days to complete. I run my anti-virus and anti-
spyware programs regularly and have never had anything like this
happen.
In case you were wondering, I'm writing this at the library.
Thank you,
Robert
if you are using windows xp,
there is no more dos.
the prompt you are trying to
get to is the windows xp
disk system prompt that
can be accessed via the
recovery console of "any"
windows setup cd or
via emergency start up
boot disks. sometimes
i refer to its similarity with
the old dos because most
people are highly familiar
with this methodology.
---------------
it is unfortunate that an
otherwise simple task of
checking the integrity of
your file system directly
from the disk has become
a burden.
unfortunately, there could
many things that are causing
this to be a complex matter
and because there are millions
of combinations involving
hardware and software, it is
impossible to find out where
the needle is in the haystack.
what seems to be the best
course of action is to bring
your system back to its' basic
and tested functionality.
my suggestion is to:
1) get into you o.s. and begin
the process of copying all your
personal files off the disk and onto
cd's or dvds. Or if you have a
another partition or harddrive,
transfer your files over to them.
2) bring your pc back to its
basic hardware configuration by remove
all peripherals except kb, video and
mouse. If you have a special video
adaptor temporarily remove this as
well.
3) then reinstall windows from
scratch and install "nothing" else
that is none microsoft onto your
pc (including updates) in order to
ensure it functions without errors
for a couple of days.
the above could be avoided perhaps
with a "repair installation", however
your disk system has locked you out
because of the administrator password.
and though there are freewares that
will get you the passwords, if any, i
think that your system is doomed because
of the faulty check disks. so in my
opinion, it would be a further waste
of time trying to repair what you have.
another way to see this is that if
the method of reinstalling windows
was used several days ago, it would
have taken only a couple of hours to
get you back online. however, as
you can see, it has now been many
days struggling with this issue.
there may be a possibility that if
simply reinstalling windows over
your current one doesn't work then
you may need to format the disk.
the alternative to the above is
to buy a second harddrive and
simply install a new windows
onto it.
having a secondary windows that
is functional will provide you with
the opportunity to operate and
repair the dysfunctional
one or wipe it away.
if you are using windows xp,
there is no more dos.
the prompt you are trying to
get to is the windows xp
disk system prompt that
can be accessed via the
recovery console of "any"
windows setup cd or
via emergency start up
boot disks. sometimes
i refer to its similarity with
the old dos because most
people are highly familiar
with this methodology.
---------------
it is unfortunate that an
otherwise simple task of
checking the integrity of
your file system directly
from the disk has become
a burden.
unfortunately, there could
many things that are causing
this to be a complex matter
and because there are millions
of combinations involving
hardware and software, it is
impossible to find out where
the needle is in the haystack.
what seems to be the best
course of action is to bring
your system back to its' basic
and tested functionality.
my suggestion is to:
1) get into you o.s. and begin
the process of copying all your
personal files off the disk and onto
cd's or dvds. Or if you have a
another partition or harddrive,
transfer your files over to them.
2) bring your pc back to its
basic hardware configuration by remove
all peripherals except kb, video and
mouse. If you have a special video
adaptor temporarily remove this as
well.
3) then reinstall windows from
scratch and install "nothing" else
that is none microsoft onto your
pc (including updates) in order to
ensure it functions without errors
for a couple of days.
the above could be avoided perhaps
with a "repair installation", however
your disk system has locked you out
because of the administrator password.
and though there are freewares that
will get you the passwords, if any, i
think that your system is doomed because
of the faulty check disks. so in my
opinion, it would be a further waste
of time trying to repair what you have.
another way to see this is that if
the method of reinstalling windows
was used several days ago, it would
have taken only a couple of hours to
get you back online. however, as
you can see, it has now been many
days struggling with this issue.
there may be a possibility that if
simply reinstalling windows over
your current one doesn't work then
you may need to format the disk.
the alternative to the above is
to buy a second harddrive and
simply install a new windows
onto it.
having a secondary windows that
is functional will provide you with
the opportunity to operate and
repair the dysfunctional
one or wipe it away.
no, you don't need
to buy a new harddrive,
it was only an alternative.
lets review what has occurred
with your system:
supposedly, your system
was running fine, until there
was an update that caused
an issue. then a check disk
was initiated and was unable
to complete and reran numerously,
locking you out of the system.
then it was a failed attempt to
log into the recovery console, it
seems that your windows cd may
have made a marginal correction
to your faulty system and gave
you access again.
at this time there is no proof
that an update caused the problem
and could be an assumption or
coincidence. (if it is an update
then you can uninstall it/them)
next we are not certain that your
system was perfectly functional
and may have seem ok, but it
may have not been operating
perfectly. for one thing the
check disk issue and secondly
you are unable to log into the
disk system because of ntpassword.
both the failed check disk
and the inability to log into
the recovery console is
indicative of other issues.
the above is only what we
know of, but there may still
be more issues involved.
my suggestion was simply
to reinstall windows from
scratch as an easy method.
at this time you should
copy all your personal files
off the disk. then you will
have the freedom to work on
the o.s..
fortunately, you have regain
access to the o.s. and to the
registry, but who knows for
how long. until the o.s. is
perfect and you can log into
the recovery console, safemodes
and run complete checkdisks,
your are on shaky ground.
as i mentioned who knows what
all else is dysfunctional. further
what you may see as acceptable
functionality, we would likely
see your system as needing much
optimization. but we don't have
supergeek vision.
here is some info on
the recovery console. somewhere
in the middle there is a
registry tweak regarding the
administrator password.
http://www.theeldergeek.com/recovery_console.htm
keep in mind here is that
1) get your personal files to safety
2) log into the recovery console
and get a clean bill of health from
the check disk. (do a chkdsk /r).
no, you don't need
to buy a new harddrive,
it was only an alternative.
lets review what has occurred
with your system:
supposedly, your system
was running fine, until there
was an update that caused
an issue. then a check disk
was initiated and was unable
to complete and reran numerously,
locking you out of the system.
then it was a failed attempt to
log into the recovery console, it
seems that your windows cd may
have made a marginal correction
to your faulty system and gave
you access again.
at this time there is no proof
that an update caused the problem
and could be an assumption or
coincidence. (if it is an update
then you can uninstall it/them)
next we are not certain that your
system was perfectly functional
and may have seem ok, but it
may have not been operating
perfectly. for one thing the
check disk issue and secondly
you are unable to log into the
disk system because of ntpassword.
both the failed check disk
and the inability to log into
the recovery console is
indicative of other issues.
the above is only what we
know of, but there may still
be more issues involved.
my suggestion was simply
to reinstall windows from
scratch as an easy method.
at this time you should
copy all your personal files
off the disk. then you will
have the freedom to work on
the o.s..
fortunately, you have regain
access to the o.s. and to the
registry, but who knows for
how long. until the o.s. is
perfect and you can log into
the recovery console, safemodes
and run complete checkdisks,
your are on shaky ground.
as i mentioned who knows what
all else is dysfunctional. further
what you may see as acceptable
functionality, we would likely
see your system as needing much
optimization. but we don't have
supergeek vision.
here is some info on
the recovery console. somewhere
in the middle there is a
registry tweak regarding the
administrator password.
http://www.theeldergeek.com/recovery_console.htm
keep in mind here is that
1) get your personal files to safety
2) log into the recovery console
and get a clean bill of health from
the check disk. (do a chkdsk /r).
no, you don't need
to buy a new harddrive,
it was only an alternative.
lets review what has occurred
with your system:
supposedly, your system
was running fine, until there
was an update that caused
an issue. then a check disk
was initiated and was unable
to complete and reran numerously,
locking you out of the system.
then it was a failed attempt to
log into the recovery console, it
seems that your windows cd may
have made a marginal correction
to your faulty system and gave
you access again.
at this time there is no proof
that an update caused the problem
and could be an assumption or
coincidence. (if it is an update
then you can uninstall it/them)
next we are not certain that your
system was perfectly functional
and may have seem ok, but it
may have not been operating
perfectly. for one thing the
check disk issue and secondly
you are unable to log into the
disk system because of ntpassword.
both the failed check disk
and the inability to log into
the recovery console is
indicative of other issues.
the above is only what we
know of, but there may still
be more issues involved.
my suggestion was simply
to reinstall windows from
scratch as an easy method.
at this time you should
copy all your personal files
off the disk. then you will
have the freedom to work on
the o.s..
fortunately, you have regain
access to the o.s. and to the
registry, but who knows for
how long. until the o.s. is
perfect and you can log into
the recovery console, safemodes
and run complete checkdisks,
your are on shaky ground.
as i mentioned who knows what
all else is dysfunctional. further
what you may see as acceptable
functionality, we would likely
see your system as needing much
optimization. but we don't have
supergeek vision.
here is some info on
the recovery console. somewhere
in the middle there is a
registry tweak regarding the
administrator password.
http://www.theeldergeek.com/recovery_console.htm
keep in mind here is that
1) get your personal files to safety
2) log into the recovery console
and get a clean bill of health from
the check disk. (do a chkdsk /r).
ok,
you did a good job
of regaining control
of your system.
in the check disk results
this is what it provided:
156159832 kilobytes total space
138734552 kilobytes are available
but the numbers can also
read as
156,159,832 kilobytes total space
138,734,552 kilobytes are available
156,159 megabytes total space
138,734 megabytes are available
156 gigabytes total space
138 gigabytes are available
if you do a little calculation:
156-138= 18 gigs of used
space.
what you should do now is
to make a system restore point
for today.
i don't think you need to
run anymore commands
via the recovery console.
however, if it is now listed
on your boot menu, leave
it there for future use.
the next thing to review is
that when you restore your
system to a prior date, did
something get reinstalled/
restored that is beneficial
or detrimental for your
system.
remember that i had mentioned
that what may seem normal
for normal users, computer
geeks can spot issues that
are detrimental to the system.
unfortunately, there is
no way of knowing from
our end how well your
system is performing.
the rule of thumb is
as long as the user is
happy, then who are
we to argue.
what i would suggest is
to refrain from freeware
grazing and if you find
something of interests
ask here firstly and before
installing.
next, you might want
to try out a software
called system mechanic
for a couple of days, then
uninstall it if you wish.
but a program like the
above will cover a lot
of basis and will also
let you know more
about your system as
well.
what you can also run
at this time is this:
http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm
and most importantly,
do not allow updates to
download automatically.
updates are provided
once a month by microsoft,
usually around the second
tuesday of each month.
manually check for what
updates their servers have
selected for your machine
and prevent any that would
override your drivers, like
video drivers.
http://www.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us
before selecting the updates
and before downloading any
of them remember to make a
system restore point first.
as for me, i might download
updates every three months
or so and i have a number
of updates that are flagged
not to install. so not
installing updates is not
the end of the world and
not everyone needs updates
as well.
again good job. you are
now becoming a computer
geek!
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On Mar 17, 4:35 pm, db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. .
ok,
you did a good job
of regaining control
of your system.
in the check disk results
this is what it provided:
156159832 kilobytes total space
138734552 kilobytes are available
but the numbers can also
read as
156,159,832 kilobytes total space
138,734,552 kilobytes are available
156,159 megabytes total space
138,734 megabytes are available
156 gigabytes total space
138 gigabytes are available
if you do a little calculation:
156-138= 18 gigs of used
space.
what you should do now is
to make a system restore point
for today.
i don't think you need to
run anymore commands
via the recovery console.
however, if it is now listed
on your boot menu, leave
it there for future use.
the next thing to review is
that when you restore your
system to a prior date, did
something get reinstalled/
restored that is beneficial
or detrimental for your
system.
remember that i had mentioned
that what may seem normal
for normal users, computer
geeks can spot issues that
are detrimental to the system.
unfortunately, there is
no way of knowing from
our end how well your
system is performing.
the rule of thumb is
as long as the user is
happy, then who are
we to argue.
what i would suggest is
to refrain from freeware
grazing and if you find
something of interests
ask here firstly and before
installing.
next, you might want
to try out a software
called system mechanic
for a couple of days, then
uninstall it if you wish.
but a program like the
above will cover a lot
of basis and will also
let you know more
about your system as
well.
what you can also run
at this time is this:
http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm
and most importantly,
do not allow updates to
download automatically.
updates are provided
once a month by microsoft,
usually around the second
tuesday of each month.
manually check for what
updates their servers have
selected for your machine
and prevent any that would
override your drivers, like
video drivers.
http://www.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us
before selecting the updates
and before downloading any
of them remember to make a
system restore point first.
as for me, i might download
updates every three months
or so and i have a number
of updates that are flagged
not to install. so not
installing updates is not
the end of the world and
not everyone needs updates
as well.
again good job. you are
now becoming a computer
geek!
--
db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
ok, I tweaked the password with the link you provided and tried to
access the Recovery Console again and this time it let me through! I
tuped chkdsk and it came back with the following:
Volume created 12/15/01 07:08a
Volume Serial Number is 9C54-d88F
The volume appears to be in good condition and was not checked. Use /P
if you want to check it anyway.
156159832 kilobytes total space
138734552 kilobytes are available
4096 bytes in allocation unit
39039958 total allocation units on disk
34683638 allocation units available on disk
I tried typing the /P but it came back with command not reconized.
Also I believe that the above information is referring to the original
40GB hard drive not my new 160GB hard drive. Should I of typed chkdsk/
r ?
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re-ran the deep analysis, and it came back with errors detected on
hard drive.
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