Seems that XP SP2 is a utter Cockup..

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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Hi,

Program writers are notorious for taking shortcuts. In many cases, they
often use known holes in the system code as a shortcut to accomplish
something in thier program. When the hole is later patched by a critical
update, their program (or part of it) no longer works. They do this
knowingly and intentionally. They have the opportunity to code it correctly
according to specs, they choose not to for expediency. So who's fault is
that? Or would you rather that the holes were not patched? You know, that
way everyone would be permanently susceptible to Nimda, Code Red, Blaster,
etc.......
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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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bAZZ

because SP2 made fundimental changes to the way certain things operate.
FFS roger, get a ****ing life.

MS told everyone that it will break things, I thought that list was
actually quite small.
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Heh and most of the apps were there own. Or rather MS apps were more
than other vendors. Looks like the firewall is one of the biggest
stumbling blocks but the end result is good for most ppl.

bAZZ
 
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JAX

Hi Rick,

Did you notice that many of the programs in the list are Microsoft's own
products?

JAX
 
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Tim

How many was that?
How many windows programs are there?
How many of these programs are superceeded?
What changes did they make?
What might a programmer have done wrong to make it incompatible?
What needs to be fixed / changed to make the apps work again (sodd all
usually)?

Now, would you like to compare these stats with App breakages going from
Windows 3.1 to Win 95? Or Win9x to Windows NT or Windows XP?

Or would you prefer a Mac and get new apps everytime?

- Tim
 
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Patrick Dunford

Heh and most of the apps were there own. Or rather MS apps were more
than other vendors. Looks like the firewall is one of the biggest
stumbling blocks but the end result is good for most ppl.
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It seems strange that this Firewall now is enabled on a corporate
network.
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Never said they were exempt from this. Could be other incompatibilities as
well, such as a change in api's, but the point is that the program needs to
be fixed by the vendor 99.9% of the time.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Star Fleet Admiral Q

Agreed, most are "out of date - superseded programs" or "games" - and the
spec writers for game programmers are notorious for exploiting code flaws in
the name of speed.
 
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Patrick Dunford

Aug 2004 22:21:47 -0400, <"Star Fleet Admiral Q" <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q
(NOSPAM)@(SPAMNOT)hotmail.com>> says...
Agreed, most are "out of date - superseded programs" or "games" - and the
spec writers for game programmers are notorious for exploiting code flaws in
the name of speed.
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Office XP is a current product, all of them are listed
 
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Tim

"The following table lists programs that may behave differently after you
install Windows XP SP2:"

- Tim
 
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Rob Schneider

One reason "so many" (and I don't think the list is very long
considering the scope of this upgrade) is that programmers often use
un-documented (knowingly or unknowingly) and somtimes utilisation of
these features will not survive an upgrade to the OS. They do this for
naive reasons, or sometimes with the realisation that even if the
application doesn't survive the upgrade of OS, it is more likely that
people will blame Microsoft before blaming the actual guilty party. The
other reason that could be happening to applications on this list is
that these applications depend on certain default user-configurable
configurations of the OS. As is well known and publicized by Microsoft,
many of these default settings have been changed in SP2.
 
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Patrick Dunford

Er, I bet that just about all these games refer to multiplayer stuff and
lots of these apps seem to be network related.

Could it be something to do with a firewall? You fail it.
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Absolutely, anything that connects peer to peer is going to be affected.
I had so much fun at home getting Zonealarm configured on various
machines to allow them to connect to each other just for Windows
Networking.
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Wasn't arguing either, didn't think you were, I was just expanding on it.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 

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