Seagate 400GB drive reduced to 128GB after WinXP reinstall

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Guest

I installed a 400GB drive as a secondary drive on a WinXP SP2 system as a
single 372GB NTFS partition that I used as backup storage. I later
reinstalled XP, but did not disconnect the 400GB drive before the new
installation. XP recognized the 400GB drive as a single 128GB partition.
Even after installing SP2, I could not get the full capacity of the drive
back.

Since that time I have read this discussion group and have tried all of the
things that I have read but still have the problem. If everyone will bear
with me, I would like to go through everything again to make sure I am not
missing anything.

Here are things that I have done. I have slipstreamed a disk with SP2 and
my XP original disk, installing this on a newly NTFS partitioned 80GB drive,
then installed the 400GB drive as a second storage drive, used Seagate
DiscWizard for Windows to partition the drive with one NTFS partition (also
tried multiple NTFS partitions). XP still said the drive was 128 GB. I have
a ASUA A7V133 motherboard with upgrade BIOS 1010B. The motherboard has
Primary IDE, Secondary IDE, Primary ATA100, Secondary ATA100 connectors. I
have a CD ROM connected to the Primary IDE channel, nothing connected to the
Secondary IDE channel, Western Digital 80GB drive on the Primary ATA100
channel, and on the Secondary ATA100 channel a Maxtor 27GB drive was the
master and the Seagate 400GB drive was the slave drive (I have also tried
changing the positions of the drives to no avail). I had XP SP2 installed on
the 80GB and 27GB drives and could boot from either one (this configuration
worked fine until the reinstallation of XP).

When I boot the 80GB, 27GB, 400GB system, during the BIOS screens, I see D0
as 80GB, D1 is blank, D2 is 27GB, D3 is 372GB.
Seagate DiscWizard for Windows sees the full size of the drive and all NTFS
partitions.
I do not have the 400GB drive jumpered for 128GB operation.
I have deleted the IDE drivers and reinstalled as mentioned in one thread.
I have deleted the motherboard Promise IDE controller driver and reinstalled.
I have tried using XP Disk Management to reformat the drive as mentioned also.
I have erased the 400 GB drive using a DiscWizard boot floppy, then
connected the 400GB drive to a XP SP2 system, drive doesn't appear in
Explorer, gone to Disk Management, Initialized disk, formated disk, disk is
still shown to be 128GB.

I have now started from square one. I installed XP from my original disk
onto the 400GB drive attached to the Primary ATA100 channel. The BIOS
screens show the drive on D0 as 372GB. Partitioned drive as 128GB NTFS
partition - only choice I had with original XP installation disk. I have
installed all of the recommended updates, including SP2, from the Windows
Update website. I still only see a 128GB partition in the Disk Management
window even though one thread said that after installing SP2, I should be
able to right click on the available space on the drive and make new
partitions.

Does anyone know where I can look in WinXP SP2, I can look to see what is
going on? I have looked in the registry for the EnableBigLba value. There
is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE entry for it, but I believe that somewhere in the
discussions I have read that it is not necessary in SP2. I appreciate
anyone's help.
 
A

Anna

Danny said:
I installed a 400GB drive as a secondary drive on a WinXP SP2 system as a
single 372GB NTFS partition that I used as backup storage. I later
reinstalled XP, but did not disconnect the 400GB drive before the new
installation. XP recognized the 400GB drive as a single 128GB partition.
Even after installing SP2, I could not get the full capacity of the drive
back.

Since that time I have read this discussion group and have tried all of
the
things that I have read but still have the problem. If everyone will bear
with me, I would like to go through everything again to make sure I am not
missing anything.

Here are things that I have done. I have slipstreamed a disk with SP2 and
my XP original disk, installing this on a newly NTFS partitioned 80GB
drive,
then installed the 400GB drive as a second storage drive, used Seagate
DiscWizard for Windows to partition the drive with one NTFS partition
(also
tried multiple NTFS partitions). XP still said the drive was 128 GB. I
have
a ASUA A7V133 motherboard with upgrade BIOS 1010B. The motherboard has
Primary IDE, Secondary IDE, Primary ATA100, Secondary ATA100 connectors.
I
have a CD ROM connected to the Primary IDE channel, nothing connected to
the
Secondary IDE channel, Western Digital 80GB drive on the Primary ATA100
channel, and on the Secondary ATA100 channel a Maxtor 27GB drive was the
master and the Seagate 400GB drive was the slave drive (I have also tried
changing the positions of the drives to no avail). I had XP SP2 installed
on
the 80GB and 27GB drives and could boot from either one (this
configuration
worked fine until the reinstallation of XP).

When I boot the 80GB, 27GB, 400GB system, during the BIOS screens, I see
D0
as 80GB, D1 is blank, D2 is 27GB, D3 is 372GB.
Seagate DiscWizard for Windows sees the full size of the drive and all
NTFS
partitions.
I do not have the 400GB drive jumpered for 128GB operation.
I have deleted the IDE drivers and reinstalled as mentioned in one thread.
I have deleted the motherboard Promise IDE controller driver and
reinstalled.
I have tried using XP Disk Management to reformat the drive as mentioned
also.
I have erased the 400 GB drive using a DiscWizard boot floppy, then
connected the 400GB drive to a XP SP2 system, drive doesn't appear in
Explorer, gone to Disk Management, Initialized disk, formated disk, disk
is
still shown to be 128GB.

I have now started from square one. I installed XP from my original disk
onto the 400GB drive attached to the Primary ATA100 channel. The BIOS
screens show the drive on D0 as 372GB. Partitioned drive as 128GB NTFS
partition - only choice I had with original XP installation disk. I have
installed all of the recommended updates, including SP2, from the Windows
Update website. I still only see a 128GB partition in the Disk Management
window even though one thread said that after installing SP2, I should be
able to right click on the available space on the drive and make new
partitions.

Does anyone know where I can look in WinXP SP2, I can look to see what is
going on? I have looked in the registry for the EnableBigLba value.
There
is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE entry for it, but I believe that somewhere in the
discussions I have read that it is not necessary in SP2. I appreciate
anyone's help.


Danny:
I assume you know that there are two - and only two - requirements for the
XP OS to recognize the full capacity of large-capacity disks, i.e., disks >
137 GB (approx 128 GB binary)...
1. The motherboard's BIOS must support large-capacity disks; and
2. The XP installation CD must contain SP1 and/or SP2 at the time the OS is
installed and the large-capacity disk is present in the system.

That's it. Those two requirements.

From what you've indicated it appears your ASUS motherboard does support
large-capacity disks.

You say you installed XP from your "original disk" when that 400 GB HDD was
connected. It appears from your description of events that the XP
installation CD you used at that time did *not* include either SP1 or SP2.
Is that right? If so, that would account for the fact that only 128 GB of
that disk was originally recognized. When you later installed SP2
(presumably) the full capacity of that HDD (approx 372 GB) would be
recognized, however, the disk space above the 128 GB originally detected
would (or should) be reflected as "unallocated space" in Disk Management;
disk space that you can partition & format.

Are you indicating that Disk Management does not show that "unallocated
space"? Should that be the case - you're sure of that - what I would suggest
is to use Disk Management to delete the present 128 GB partition, reboot the
machine and using DM (that hopefully now reflects the full capacity of that
disk) partition & format the 400 GB HDD as you please. All this presupposes
that there's either no data on that 400 GB HDD or if so, any data that you
need. And again, it assumes your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and your
XP OS contains SP1 and/or SP2.
Anna
 
L

Lil' Dave

Danny said:
I installed a 400GB drive as a secondary drive on a WinXP SP2 system as a
single 372GB NTFS partition that I used as backup storage. I later
reinstalled XP, but did not disconnect the 400GB drive before the new
installation. XP recognized the 400GB drive as a single 128GB partition.
Even after installing SP2, I could not get the full capacity of the drive
back.

Since that time I have read this discussion group and have tried all of
the
things that I have read but still have the problem. If everyone will bear
with me, I would like to go through everything again to make sure I am not
missing anything.

Here are things that I have done. I have slipstreamed a disk with SP2 and
my XP original disk, installing this on a newly NTFS partitioned 80GB
drive,
then installed the 400GB drive as a second storage drive, used Seagate
DiscWizard for Windows to partition the drive with one NTFS partition
(also
tried multiple NTFS partitions). XP still said the drive was 128 GB. I
have
a ASUA A7V133 motherboard with upgrade BIOS 1010B. The motherboard has
Primary IDE, Secondary IDE, Primary ATA100, Secondary ATA100 connectors.
I
have a CD ROM connected to the Primary IDE channel, nothing connected to
the
Secondary IDE channel, Western Digital 80GB drive on the Primary ATA100
channel, and on the Secondary ATA100 channel a Maxtor 27GB drive was the
master and the Seagate 400GB drive was the slave drive (I have also tried
changing the positions of the drives to no avail). I had XP SP2 installed
on
the 80GB and 27GB drives and could boot from either one (this
configuration
worked fine until the reinstallation of XP).

When I boot the 80GB, 27GB, 400GB system, during the BIOS screens, I see
D0
as 80GB, D1 is blank, D2 is 27GB, D3 is 372GB.
Seagate DiscWizard for Windows sees the full size of the drive and all
NTFS
partitions.
I do not have the 400GB drive jumpered for 128GB operation.
I have deleted the IDE drivers and reinstalled as mentioned in one thread.
I have deleted the motherboard Promise IDE controller driver and
reinstalled.
I have tried using XP Disk Management to reformat the drive as mentioned
also.
I have erased the 400 GB drive using a DiscWizard boot floppy, then
connected the 400GB drive to a XP SP2 system, drive doesn't appear in
Explorer, gone to Disk Management, Initialized disk, formated disk, disk
is
still shown to be 128GB.

I have now started from square one. I installed XP from my original disk
onto the 400GB drive attached to the Primary ATA100 channel. The BIOS
screens show the drive on D0 as 372GB. Partitioned drive as 128GB NTFS
partition - only choice I had with original XP installation disk. I have
installed all of the recommended updates, including SP2, from the Windows
Update website. I still only see a 128GB partition in the Disk Management
window even though one thread said that after installing SP2, I should be
able to right click on the available space on the drive and make new
partitions.

Does anyone know where I can look in WinXP SP2, I can look to see what is
going on? I have looked in the registry for the EnableBigLba value.
There
is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE entry for it, but I believe that somewhere in the
discussions I have read that it is not necessary in SP2. I appreciate
anyone's help.

Have only seen this when a hard drive over 128GB capacity is installed
somewhere where the bios including an external enclosure's bios recognizes
the full capacity, and partitioned and formatted from that location. Then,
the hard drive is moved to a connection where the bios does not recognize
the full capacity of the hard drive.

You need a minimum of SP1.
Dave
 
G

Guest

W/o disconnecting the drive (or any add-on,printers,etc),youre xp install is
probably corrupted,reinstall xp,or find out later that you have problems...
 
P

Paul

Anna said:
Danny:
I assume you know that there are two - and only two - requirements for the
XP OS to recognize the full capacity of large-capacity disks, i.e., disks >
137 GB (approx 128 GB binary)...
1. The motherboard's BIOS must support large-capacity disks; and
2. The XP installation CD must contain SP1 and/or SP2 at the time the OS is
installed and the large-capacity disk is present in the system.

That's it. Those two requirements.

From what you've indicated it appears your ASUS motherboard does support
large-capacity disks.

You say you installed XP from your "original disk" when that 400 GB HDD was
connected. It appears from your description of events that the XP
installation CD you used at that time did *not* include either SP1 or SP2.
Is that right? If so, that would account for the fact that only 128 GB of
that disk was originally recognized. When you later installed SP2
(presumably) the full capacity of that HDD (approx 372 GB) would be
recognized, however, the disk space above the 128 GB originally detected
would (or should) be reflected as "unallocated space" in Disk Management;
disk space that you can partition & format.

Are you indicating that Disk Management does not show that "unallocated
space"? Should that be the case - you're sure of that - what I would suggest
is to use Disk Management to delete the present 128 GB partition, reboot the
machine and using DM (that hopefully now reflects the full capacity of that
disk) partition & format the 400 GB HDD as you please. All this presupposes
that there's either no data on that 400 GB HDD or if so, any data that you
need. And again, it assumes your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and your
XP OS contains SP1 and/or SP2.
Anna

48 bit support appeared in the 1009 BIOS. So his 1010 BIOS should be OK.

http://www.a7vtroubleshooting.com/info/bios/index.htm#133

The driver for the Promise Controller listed here, says it
supports 48 bit LBA. I understand you have to be a bit
careful with Promise, to match the driver version to
the BIOS or add-in ROM it is using. So maybe this
is appropriate for the latest BIOS, but I don't know
where to look to verify that. I think this is for the
Promise chip when it is in non-RAID mode. (PDC20265R)

http://support.asus.com.tw/download...=A7V133&product=1&type=Latest&SLanguage=en-us

Version 2.00.0.29 2003/03/26 update
OS Win98SE / WinME / WinNT / Win2K / WinXP
Description Promise Controller UltraATA Driver REV:2.00.0.29
Support 48bit LBA HDD
File Size 145.68 (KBytes)

According to this, the B29 driver is still recommended for
the 1010 BIOS. (Post by Tuan.)

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.c..._frm/thread/c4964e55aff29844/f69070cc4458e1e8

Rather than just downloading that driver and slapping it in, I'd
check to see what driver version is currently in use. That
Promise chip won't work without some driver in place, so there
should already be something there.

Also, I'm not that crazy about the Disk Wizard, as it can
use a DDO and fix all your problems :) I don't know anything
about the subject of DDO, but post #6 here has some links that help
explain what the Disk Wizard type applications can do.

http://groups.google.ca/group/comp...._frm/thread/404f66e93aed6f00/64d6e3631fd047e4

48 bit LBA is why I don't have any disks larger than 120GB :)
Haven't had a problem yet :) :)

Paul
 
G

Guest

I have some great news to share with everyone. I have recovered the full
capacity of the Seagate 400GB drive. I want to thank all for their thought
provoking comments. Here is what evolved.

JS's comments about the latest ASUS BIOS upgrade and Promise Controller
driver didn't register with me because I had already flashed the latest BIOS
update. Unfortunately, I didn't pursue the onboard Promise Controller driver
because I hadn't changed the driver, and I had XP SP2 installed. I figured
the driver was okay.

Next, I want to apologize to Anna and thank Anna at the same time. When
Anna said that all I needed was the latest motherboard BIOS and XP SP2, I
thought, "...Anna, I have that and it doesn't work..." However, I kept that
in mind, albeit, frustratingly so.

I followed JS's advice and went to www.driverstock.com and ran a test on my
system. I was surprised to find that not only did it report that the Promise
Controller driver needed updating, but there were some other drivers that
needed updating. This website was quite helpful.

I updated the onboard Promise Controller driver, restarted the system,
looked in Computer Management/Disk Management, and found my original 128GB
partition and 244GB of available space. Just because I am skeptical, I
created a new partition in the available space with no problems.

In review, always look for the things you don't suspect, like an onboard
controller driver that you have not changed but is corrupted. Also, keep in
mind that BIOS updates and onboard controller drivers must be investigated
separately. I was surprised that I could install XP from the original XP (no
SP1/SP2) disk, later install SP2, and have XP SP2 recognize the full capacity
of the drive. I am one happy camper today.

Thanks to all for their help in this matter
 
J

JS

You're Welcome.

JS

Danny said:
I have some great news to share with everyone. I have recovered the full
capacity of the Seagate 400GB drive. I want to thank all for their
thought
provoking comments. Here is what evolved.

JS's comments about the latest ASUS BIOS upgrade and Promise Controller
driver didn't register with me because I had already flashed the latest
BIOS
update. Unfortunately, I didn't pursue the onboard Promise Controller
driver
because I hadn't changed the driver, and I had XP SP2 installed. I
figured
the driver was okay.

Next, I want to apologize to Anna and thank Anna at the same time. When
Anna said that all I needed was the latest motherboard BIOS and XP SP2, I
thought, "...Anna, I have that and it doesn't work..." However, I kept
that
in mind, albeit, frustratingly so.

I followed JS's advice and went to www.driverstock.com and ran a test on
my
system. I was surprised to find that not only did it report that the
Promise
Controller driver needed updating, but there were some other drivers that
needed updating. This website was quite helpful.

I updated the onboard Promise Controller driver, restarted the system,
looked in Computer Management/Disk Management, and found my original 128GB
partition and 244GB of available space. Just because I am skeptical, I
created a new partition in the available space with no problems.

In review, always look for the things you don't suspect, like an onboard
controller driver that you have not changed but is corrupted. Also, keep
in
mind that BIOS updates and onboard controller drivers must be investigated
separately. I was surprised that I could install XP from the original XP
(no
SP1/SP2) disk, later install SP2, and have XP SP2 recognize the full
capacity
of the drive. I am one happy camper today.

Thanks to all for their help in this matter
 
G

Guest

Anna, wanted to make sure you have seen my response. Thanks for the help.

I have some great news to share with everyone. I have recovered the full
capacity of the Seagate 400GB drive. I want to thank all for their thought
provoking comments. Here is what evolved.

JS's comments about the latest ASUS BIOS upgrade and Promise Controller
driver didn't register with me because I had already flashed the latest BIOS
update. Unfortunately, I didn't pursue the onboard Promise Controller driver
because I hadn't changed the driver, and I had XP SP2 installed. I figured
the driver was okay.

Next, I want to apologize to Anna and thank Anna at the same time. When
Anna said that all I needed was the latest motherboard BIOS and XP SP2, I
thought, "...Anna, I have that and it doesn't work..." However, I kept that
in mind, albeit, frustratingly so.

I followed JS's advice and went to www.driverstock.com and ran a test on my
system. I was surprised to find that not only did it report that the Promise
Controller driver needed updating, but there were some other drivers that
needed updating. This website was quite helpful.

I updated the onboard Promise Controller driver, restarted the system,
looked in Computer Management/Disk Management, and found my original 128GB
partition and 244GB of available space. Just because I am skeptical, I
created a new partition in the available space with no problems.

In review, always look for the things you don't suspect, like an onboard
controller driver that you have not changed but is corrupted. Also, keep in
mind that BIOS updates and onboard controller drivers must be investigated
separately. I was surprised that I could install XP from the original XP (no
SP1/SP2) disk, later install SP2, and have XP SP2 recognize the full capacity
of the drive. I am one happy camper today.

Thanks to all for their help in this matter
 

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