Saving Movie Maker Projects

[steve]

This was one extremely long thread, but didn't anybody
notice that leeleeah saved each sub project as "high
quality" when her final output was to be DV-AVI? Shouldn't
she have saved each piece as DV-AVI so there would be no
loss of quality (or minimal, as Bob pointed out there is
slight loss each time you save as DV-AVI)? I know the
saving time was reduced by this method, but maybe it was
increased due to the lower quality as well.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
I have FINALLY figured out how to save in mm2. Thanks

papa john for your help on your web site.....it seemed a
little confusing at first but once I started splitting up
my project it worked like a charm. My project was 224 mb
long....I found that when I split it into two pieces it
did not work....so I went back and split it into five
pieces then the saving process was only 9 minutes long for
each piece....However I did not cut and paste or delete
any of my project. I made my project (224 mb long) and
made a back up copy...... then went in to my original
project and copied each segment and opened it to a new
project....saving each project as "high quality video" as
I went along.....then after I had each segment saved...I
opened yet a new project and imported all saved pieces
back into my project and pieced everything back together
(which was not hard since it was only a few pieces). So,
saving to my computer as dv-avi took only a few minutes
then I burned to disc. If everyone would read your website
on saving mm2 projects they would come to a better
understanding of how mm2 works in general when trying to
save a project. I've been reading the xp newsgroup
messages quite frequently while putting my project
together and it seems everyone had the same issues as me
such as: hanging, generic error messages, source files and
so on.....Also I called tech support and boosted my
virtual memory to Initial 1024 and Maximum 1024....I never
got another virtual memory message after that.......since
I was saving pieces of the project and not the entire
project all together. Hope this helps some of you with all
these issues on saving....If you will do it this way your
project will not hang and you won't get all those error
messages......Thanks again papa john!!!!

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

Yes Steve, but I didn't see the final output as being DV-AVI. It was burning
a disc... and it wasn't noted what kind of disc it was.

For a VCD or SVCD, the higher quality might be overkill... and for a DVD, it
might have still been good enough.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

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[Guest]

I meant to say . . . maybe it was DECREASED due to lower
quality . . . in last sentence, sorry!

Steve

 

[Bob [MVP]]

Good point, Steve. I guess the thread did stray a bit
off topic. Sorry about that...

Another tip for leeleeah, if you had to increase your
virtual memory to 1G, you might want to consider increasing
your physical memory to 1G if you plan to create similar-
size projects in the future. That should improve your
performance.

--
-Bob
____________________________
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Media Center Edition
www.microsoft.com/ehome

This was one extremely long thread, but didn't anybody
notice that leeleeah saved each sub project as "high
quality" when her final output was to be DV-AVI? Shouldn't
she have saved each piece as DV-AVI so there would be no
loss of quality (or minimal, as Bob pointed out there is
slight loss each time you save as DV-AVI)? I know the
saving time was reduced by this method, but maybe it was
increased due to the lower quality as well.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
I have FINALLY figured out how to save in mm2. Thanks

papa john for your help on your web site.....it seemed a
little confusing at first but once I started splitting up
my project it worked like a charm. My project was 224 mb
long....I found that when I split it into two pieces it
did not work....so I went back and split it into five
pieces then the saving process was only 9 minutes long for
each piece....However I did not cut and paste or delete
any of my project. I made my project (224 mb long) and
made a back up copy...... then went in to my original
project and copied each segment and opened it to a new
project....saving each project as "high quality video" as
I went along.....then after I had each segment saved...I
opened yet a new project and imported all saved pieces
back into my project and pieced everything back together
(which was not hard since it was only a few pieces). So,
saving to my computer as dv-avi took only a few minutes
then I burned to disc. If everyone would read your website
on saving mm2 projects they would come to a better
understanding of how mm2 works in general when trying to
save a project. I've been reading the xp newsgroup
messages quite frequently while putting my project
together and it seems everyone had the same issues as me
such as: hanging, generic error messages, source files and
so on.....Also I called tech support and boosted my
virtual memory to Initial 1024 and Maximum 1024....I never
got another virtual memory message after that.......since
I was saving pieces of the project and not the entire
project all together. Hope this helps some of you with all
these issues on saving....If you will do it this way your
project will not hang and you won't get all those error
messages......Thanks again papa john!!!!

 

[Guest]

DV-AVI didn't work for me because it wasn't 1024x768.

Uncompressed files saved with a custom profile after MM2
were huge and I couldn't access them with Virtual Dub (or
that conversion software) to compress with Divx.

I like MM2 but wish it would use DivX for compression like
Adobe Premiere, not that I can figure out how to get AP to
work.

As posted elsewhere, I got decent results importing
uncompressed files into MM2 and then saving using a
Windows Media 9 custom profile with 7 - 20 MB 1024x768. A
little big for uploading minutes more than a few minutes
long to the web, but fine for saving on a CD for friends.

Thank again.

-----Original Message-----
Bob,

I agree with you and Rehan, and will tweak the words on the website to
reflect DV-AVI files being DV-compressed, not uncompressed.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

..

Hi PapaJohn,

It is true that MM2 does not further compress the
video when it is captured from a DV camcorder. The
compression is done by the camera as it records to
the tape in DV format.

But you were not talking about capturing from a DV
camcorder - you were talking about saving a movie
using the Microsoft DV codec. So even though you
know and I know what you mean, your statement that
you'll get a file that's "not a compressed file",
was simply not accurate, and probably misleading to
those users with little video knowledge.

As far as wording for your web site, you could
just say that DV video is compressed using an
encoding method that produces high-quality video,
but very large file sizes (or something to that
effect).

--
-Bob
____________________________
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Media Center Edition
www.microsoft.com/ehome

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