rtf table numbering

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grammatim

Old FrameMaker files were outputted as "Microsoft RTF 1.6" (whatever
that means -- there were two varieties of rtf in FM's Save As list),
so that they could be turned into Word2007 files, and everything is
fine -- even the index entry markers -- except that the numbering of
table headings seems to have gotten stuck: successive tables in a
document do have numbers incremented, except once in a while they
restart at 1.

Right-clicking doesn't offer a "Resume Numbering" option.

The table label and number don't show up in Format > Numbering, and
they can't be selected (just like other automatic numbering).

Is there a way to get them to number properly, short of replacing them
with Insert Caption entries?

(Eventually it will all get fed into InDesign, so maybe I shouldn't
worry about it at all at this point?)
 
R

Robert M. Franz (RMF)

Hi grammatim
Old FrameMaker files were outputted as "Microsoft RTF 1.6" (whatever
that means -- there were two varieties of rtf in FM's Save As list),

that would be RTF in Word 9/2000 flavor [according to
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924944]

so that they could be turned into Word2007 files, and everything is
fine -- even the index entry markers -- except that the numbering of
table headings seems to have gotten stuck: successive tables in a
document do have numbers incremented, except once in a while they
restart at 1.

Right-clicking doesn't offer a "Resume Numbering" option.

Hmm, table numbers are done with captions, and these use SEQ fields. I
don't think you have this option there (short of using a field switch,
but you'd only need that for *not* numbering consecutively ...).

The table label and number don't show up in Format > Numbering, and
they can't be selected (just like other automatic numbering).

That probably means you don't have any SEQ fields there at all (not
surprisingly after a converstion from Frame, I reckon). If you select
such a table heading and hit SHIFT-F9 to display field codes, does
anything change?

Is there a way to get them to number properly, short of replacing them
with Insert Caption entries?

Probably not -- but that shouldn't be hard as you can use a single
Find-Replace run once you've got your syntax right.

(Eventually it will all get fed into InDesign, so maybe I shouldn't
worry about it at all at this point?)

I dunno (never had to work much with ID). It's supposed to be better
with numbers these days, so I'm sure you could do it there, too. Depends
if it converts the numbers to raw text anyway (then you will want them
right in Word first -- and I can hardly see this done easier in ID).

0.2¢
Robert
 
G

grammatim

Nope, I can't even get field codes to show.

The Adobe website says that InDesign CS4, the new version, which I'll
be getting, (finally) has the two most needed features: cross
referencing and automatic page creation (previously you had to make as
many new linked blank pages as you thought your imported text would
occupy, and then add or delete as needed).

Hi grammatim
Old FrameMaker files were outputted as "Microsoft RTF 1.6" (whatever
that means -- there were two varieties of rtf in FM's Save As list),

that would be RTF in Word 9/2000 flavor [according tohttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/924944]
so that they could be turned into Word2007 files, and everything is
fine -- even the index entry markers -- except that the numbering of
table headings seems to have gotten stuck: successive tables in a
document do have numbers incremented, except once in a while they
restart at 1.
Right-clicking doesn't offer a "Resume Numbering" option.

Hmm, table numbers are done with captions, and these use SEQ fields. I
don't think you have this option there (short of using a field switch,
but you'd only need that for *not* numbering consecutively ...).
The table label and number don't show up in Format > Numbering, and
they can't be selected (just like other automatic numbering).

That probably means you don't have any SEQ fields there at all (not
surprisingly after a converstion from Frame, I reckon). If you select
such a table heading and hit SHIFT-F9 to display field codes, does
anything change?
Is there a way to get them to number properly, short of replacing them
with Insert Caption entries?

Probably not -- but that shouldn't be hard as you can use a single
Find-Replace run once you've got your syntax right.
(Eventually it will all get fed into InDesign, so maybe I shouldn't
worry about it at all at this point?)

I dunno (never had to work much with ID). It's supposed to be better
with numbers these days, so I'm sure you could do it there, too. Depends
if it converts the numbers to raw text anyway (then you will want them
right in Word first -- and I can hardly see this done easier in ID).

0.2¢
Robert
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S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

<<(previously you had to make as
many new linked blank pages as you thought your imported text would
occupy, and then add or delete as needed).>>

Ouch! I'm sure this makes sense from a page layout standpoint, but speaking
from the viewpoint of a word processor, that sure sounds dumb!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Nope, I can't even get field codes to show.

The Adobe website says that InDesign CS4, the new version, which I'll
be getting, (finally) has the two most needed features: cross
referencing and automatic page creation (previously you had to make as
many new linked blank pages as you thought your imported text would
occupy, and then add or delete as needed).

Hi grammatim
Old FrameMaker files were outputted as "Microsoft RTF 1.6" (whatever
that means -- there were two varieties of rtf in FM's Save As list),

that would be RTF in Word 9/2000 flavor [according
tohttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/924944]
so that they could be turned into Word2007 files, and everything is
fine -- even the index entry markers -- except that the numbering of
table headings seems to have gotten stuck: successive tables in a
document do have numbers incremented, except once in a while they
restart at 1.
Right-clicking doesn't offer a "Resume Numbering" option.

Hmm, table numbers are done with captions, and these use SEQ fields. I
don't think you have this option there (short of using a field switch,
but you'd only need that for *not* numbering consecutively ...).
The table label and number don't show up in Format > Numbering, and
they can't be selected (just like other automatic numbering).

That probably means you don't have any SEQ fields there at all (not
surprisingly after a converstion from Frame, I reckon). If you select
such a table heading and hit SHIFT-F9 to display field codes, does
anything change?
Is there a way to get them to number properly, short of replacing them
with Insert Caption entries?

Probably not -- but that shouldn't be hard as you can use a single
Find-Replace run once you've got your syntax right.
(Eventually it will all get fed into InDesign, so maybe I shouldn't
worry about it at all at this point?)

I dunno (never had to work much with ID). It's supposed to be better
with numbers these days, so I'm sure you could do it there, too. Depends
if it converts the numbers to raw text anyway (then you will want them
right in Word first -- and I can hardly see this done easier in ID).

0.2¢
Robert
--
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\ / | MVP | Scientific Reports
X Against HTML | for | with Word?
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