Reverse order file dialog box

[Guest]

Whenever the standard windows file dialog box opens, called by any program
whatsoever, the entries appear in reverser order; i.e., files first, in
reverse alphabetical order, followed by the sub-folders

How do I get back to normal

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM]

Whenever the standard windows file dialog box opens, called by any program
whatsoever, the entries appear in reverser order; i.e., files first, in
reverse alphabetical order, followed by the sub-folders

How do I get back to normal

Incorrect Sort Order in Windows Explorer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318872

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Restore Sort order in Open and Save dialogs
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_opensaveorder.htm

Or...

<quote>
To resolve this behavior, reset the default sort order:
1. Right-click Start, click Explore and then click drive C.
2. On the View menu, click Details.
3. Click the Name column to sort items by name, press and hold down the CTRL
key, and then quit Windows Explorer by clicking Close in the upper-right
corner of the screen.
4. Release the CTRL key.
5. Restart your computer.

NOTE: You must perform these steps exactly as they are listed. For example,
do not quit Windows Explorer by clicking Exit on the File menu.
<quote>
from...
Items in "Open" and "Save As" Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229070

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Poprivet]

Incorrect Sort Order in Windows Explorer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318872

Frank, I believe the OP means that ONLY dialog boxes have the reverse order;
not everything. The reference you gave seems to apply to pre-SP1 and 2
versions of XP.

I've had the same issues for some time now myself; no matter how many times
you go to Details and set it correctly, the setting never "sticks", even for
subsequent uses of that same window.
Somehow, it only applies to dialog boxes with a file/folder display.
I -think- in my case it originated with the installation of a genealogy
program (RootsMagic) but it could also have been a coincidence; who knows?
I thought, for that program, it was good since you didn't have to dig tru
the folders first to get to the files, but for most other apps it's quite an
annoyance. Not to mention confusing when you go trapsing off in the wrong
direction and discover you went the wrong direction <g>.

Any other thoughts?

Regards,

Tom`

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM]

Frank, I believe the OP means that ONLY dialog boxes have the reverse
order; not everything. The reference you gave seems to apply to pre-SP1
and 2 versions of XP.

I've had the same issues for some time now myself; no matter how many
times you go to Details and set it correctly, the setting never "sticks",
even for subsequent uses of that same window.
Somehow, it only applies to dialog boxes with a file/folder display.
I -think- in my case it originated with the installation of a genealogy
program (RootsMagic) but it could also have been a coincidence; who knows?
I thought, for that program, it was good since you didn't have to dig tru
the folders first to get to the files, but for most other apps it's quite
an annoyance. Not to mention confusing when you go trapsing off in the
wrong direction and discover you went the wrong direction <g>.

Any other thoughts?

Regards,

Tom`

Wesley's suggestion:
Restore Sort order in Open and Save dialogs
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_opensaveorder.htm

 

[Poprivet]

Hi Wesley,

Thanks, you helped me solve an annoyance I've had for some time, but it
didnt' go smoothly in my case. I was particularly intrigued by the
CTRL-Xbutton(close) statement, too; I'd never heard of it before. In fact,
I still don't know what it does unless it's just a make-them-all-alike
shortcut?

I only provide this info as sort of an FYI in case it matters to anything,
or should you have any comments you feel like making. I'm just very happy
to be finally rid of that annoyance!

At first restart, your fix seemed to work. But then I noticed Windows
Explorer had the sort order reversed. So, I corrected that, used the
CTRL-Xbutton again, and did a Restart.
Hmm, NOW the dialog boxes had reversed again. Back to Explorer, and it
looked OK. So I tried the process again; no change.
THEN I happened to notice that C:\ was sorted properly, but ALL of the
subfolders of ANY subfolder under C:\ was NOT, they were all reverse sorted!
And of course, Dialog Boxes were still sorted wrong.
So, with nothing to lose, I went back to Explorer and set a subfolder to
be properly sorted and used Tools, Apply to All Folders. Then I did a
Restart, and now, -finally-, all is fine! I was prepared to repeat the
instructions you provided, but didn't have to. So far, three more Restarts
later, all is fine; all sort orders are as they should be.
I -think- the conditional is that one should run the Tools; Apply to All
Folders before running the fix.

As I mentioned to, I think it was Frank, I -think- this sorting issue
started with the install of an application for genealogy, but I can't be
certain. I'm going to purposely not run that program for a few days to be
sure this fix holds. If it does, I'll try a reinstall of that app to see if
it recreates the problem. At least I'll know what causes the problem then,
assuming it does, and what to do about it. <g>.

Regards,

Pop`

 

[Wesley Vogel]

ShellState gets messed up is what causes it.

"Ctrl + Close button
Sets the system default settings, mainly sort order. Icon style is not
affected"
from David Candy

Ctrl + Close [X] saves folder settings. Sometimes the settings are saved
anyway, but Ctrl + Close is added insurance. I use Ctrl + Close all of the
time just out of habit.

Sets a couple of bits in ShellState here...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

Doug Knox's xp_shellstate.reg also resets the ShellState.

ShellState is a hex number that has 36 bits, if I counted correctly. Two of
those bits are used for sorting (20? & 21?). I "think" that the Members in
the following link correspond to the bits.

Two of those...

<quote>
lParamSort
The column to sort by.

iSortDirection
Alphabetical sort direction for the column specified by lParamSort. Use 1
for an ascending sort, -1 for a descending sort.
<quote>
from...
SHELLSTATE Structure
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

Gives the value for ShellState with the wrong number of bits (28) for XP...
Contents of the Open and Save As Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/233526

"ShellState" author:david author:candy
http://groups.google.com/groups?q="...1&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=4&as_maxy=2007&safe=off&

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Poprivet]

Hmm, thank you. Those are good leads and look like something interesting to
follow up on for my own edge-a-cashun. There is more to it than I thought
there would be: Nuttin' new 'bout that! <g>

Best Regards,

Pop`

ShellState gets messed up is what causes it.

"Ctrl + Close button
Sets the system default settings, mainly sort order. Icon style is not
affected"
from David Candy

Ctrl + Close [X] saves folder settings. Sometimes the settings are
saved anyway, but Ctrl + Close is added insurance. I use Ctrl +
Close all of the time just out of habit.

Sets a couple of bits in ShellState here...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

Doug Knox's xp_shellstate.reg also resets the ShellState.

ShellState is a hex number that has 36 bits, if I counted correctly. Two
of those bits are used for sorting (20? & 21?). I "think" that
the Members in the following link correspond to the bits.

Two of those...

<quote>
lParamSort
The column to sort by.

iSortDirection
Alphabetical sort direction for the column specified by lParamSort.
Use 1 for an ascending sort, -1 for a descending sort.
<quote>
from...
SHELLSTATE Structure
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

Gives the value for ShellState with the wrong number of bits (28) for
XP... Contents of the Open and Save As Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/233526

"ShellState" author:david author:candy
http://groups.google.com/groups?q="...1&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=4&as_maxy=2007&safe=off&


In

Hi Wesley,

Thanks, you helped me solve an annoyance I've had for some time, but
it didnt' go smoothly in my case. I was particularly intrigued by
the CTRL-Xbutton(close) statement, too; I'd never heard of it
before. In fact, I still don't know what it does unless it's just a
make-them-all-alike shortcut?

I only provide this info as sort of an FYI in case it matters to
anything, or should you have any comments you feel like making. I'm
just very happy to be finally rid of that annoyance!

At first restart, your fix seemed to work. But then I noticed
Windows Explorer had the sort order reversed. So, I corrected that,
used the CTRL-Xbutton again, and did a Restart.
Hmm, NOW the dialog boxes had reversed again. Back to Explorer,
and it looked OK. So I tried the process again; no change.
THEN I happened to notice that C:\ was sorted properly, but ALL of
the subfolders of ANY subfolder under C:\ was NOT, they were all
reverse sorted! And of course, Dialog Boxes were still sorted wrong.
So, with nothing to lose, I went back to Explorer and set a
subfolder to be properly sorted and used Tools, Apply to All
Folders. Then I did a Restart, and now, -finally-, all is fine! I
was prepared to repeat the instructions you provided, but didn't
have to. So far, three more Restarts later, all is fine; all sort
orders are as they should be. I -think- the conditional is that
one should run the Tools; Apply to All Folders before running the
fix. As I mentioned to, I think it was Frank, I -think- this sorting
issue
started with the install of an application for genealogy, but I
can't be certain. I'm going to purposely not run that program for a
few days to be sure this fix holds. If it does, I'll try a
reinstall of that app to see if it recreates the problem. At least
I'll know what causes the problem then, assuming it does, and what
to do about it. <g>. Regards,

Pop`

 

[Wesley Vogel]

UserPreferencesMask is another one that uses multiple bits for many
settings.

UserPreferencesMask
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/55198.mspx?mfr=true

Settings here is another.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

See...
The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.
here...
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/69a7c561cde0897b?hl=en

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hmm, thank you. Those are good leads and look like something interesting
to follow up on for my own edge-a-cashun. There is more to it than I
thought there would be: Nuttin' new 'bout that! <g>

Best Regards,

Pop`

ShellState gets messed up is what causes it.

"Ctrl + Close button
Sets the system default settings, mainly sort order. Icon style is not
affected"
from David Candy

Ctrl + Close [X] saves folder settings. Sometimes the settings are
saved anyway, but Ctrl + Close is added insurance. I use Ctrl +
Close all of the time just out of habit.

Sets a couple of bits in ShellState here...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

Doug Knox's xp_shellstate.reg also resets the ShellState.

ShellState is a hex number that has 36 bits, if I counted correctly. Two
of those bits are used for sorting (20? & 21?). I "think" that
the Members in the following link correspond to the bits.

Two of those...

<quote>
lParamSort
The column to sort by.

iSortDirection
Alphabetical sort direction for the column specified by lParamSort.
Use 1 for an ascending sort, -1 for a descending sort.
<quote>
from...
SHELLSTATE Structure
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

Gives the value for ShellState with the wrong number of bits (28) for
XP... Contents of the Open and Save As Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/233526

"ShellState" author:david author:candy
http://groups.google.com/groups?q="...1&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=4&as_maxy=2007&safe=off&


In

Hi Wesley,

Thanks, you helped me solve an annoyance I've had for some time, but
it didnt' go smoothly in my case. I was particularly intrigued by
the CTRL-Xbutton(close) statement, too; I'd never heard of it
before. In fact, I still don't know what it does unless it's just a
make-them-all-alike shortcut?

I only provide this info as sort of an FYI in case it matters to
anything, or should you have any comments you feel like making. I'm
just very happy to be finally rid of that annoyance!

At first restart, your fix seemed to work. But then I noticed
Windows Explorer had the sort order reversed. So, I corrected that,
used the CTRL-Xbutton again, and did a Restart.
Hmm, NOW the dialog boxes had reversed again. Back to Explorer,
and it looked OK. So I tried the process again; no change.
THEN I happened to notice that C:\ was sorted properly, but ALL of
the subfolders of ANY subfolder under C:\ was NOT, they were all
reverse sorted! And of course, Dialog Boxes were still sorted wrong.
So, with nothing to lose, I went back to Explorer and set a
subfolder to be properly sorted and used Tools, Apply to All
Folders. Then I did a Restart, and now, -finally-, all is fine! I
was prepared to repeat the instructions you provided, but didn't
have to. So far, three more Restarts later, all is fine; all sort
orders are as they should be. I -think- the conditional is that
one should run the Tools; Apply to All Folders before running the
fix. As I mentioned to, I think it was Frank, I -think- this sorting
issue
started with the install of an application for genealogy, but I
can't be certain. I'm going to purposely not run that program for a
few days to be sure this fix holds. If it does, I'll try a
reinstall of that app to see if it recreates the problem. At least
I'll know what causes the problem then, assuming it does, and what
to do about it. <g>. Regards,

Pop`



Wesley Vogel wrote:
Restore Sort order in Open and Save dialogs
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_opensaveorder.htm

Or...

<quote>
To resolve this behavior, reset the default sort order:
1. Right-click Start, click Explore and then click drive C.
2. On the View menu, click Details.
3. Click the Name column to sort items by name, press and hold down
the CTRL key, and then quit Windows Explorer by clicking Close in
the upper-right corner of the screen.
4. Release the CTRL key.
5. Restart your computer.

NOTE: You must perform these steps exactly as they are listed. For
example, do not quit Windows Explorer by clicking Exit on the File
menu. <quote>
from...
Items in "Open" and "Save As" Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229070


In Paul <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Whenever the standard windows file dialog box opens, called by any
program whatsoever, the entries appear in reverser order; i.e.,
files first, in reverse alphabetical order, followed by the
sub-folders How do I get back to normal

 

[Poprivet]

Wesley, you have a knack and a half sometimes for answering questions that
didn't get asked; it only takes reading to discover it! I've been thinking
about going after the Classic Menu Setting too, for some time now.

You don't by any chance have a brother by the name of Jack, do you? I
forget the middle initial but I could find it. He'd have worked in Chgo for
quite awhile at Hammond Organ - there are some written 'mannerisms' that
seem to almost but not quite connect the two of you sometimes.

Regards,

Pop`

UserPreferencesMask is another one that uses multiple bits for many
settings.

UserPreferencesMask
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/55198.mspx?mfr=true

Settings here is another.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

See...
The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.
here...
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/69a7c561cde0897b?hl=en


In

Hmm, thank you. Those are good leads and look like something
interesting to follow up on for my own edge-a-cashun. There is more
to it than I thought there would be: Nuttin' new 'bout that! <g>

Best Regards,

Pop`

ShellState gets messed up is what causes it.

"Ctrl + Close button
Sets the system default settings, mainly sort order. Icon style is
not affected"
from David Candy

Ctrl + Close [X] saves folder settings. Sometimes the settings are
saved anyway, but Ctrl + Close is added insurance. I use Ctrl +
Close all of the time just out of habit.

Sets a couple of bits in ShellState here...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

Doug Knox's xp_shellstate.reg also resets the ShellState.

ShellState is a hex number that has 36 bits, if I counted
correctly. Two of those bits are used for sorting (20? & 21?). I
"think" that the Members in the following link correspond to the bits.

Two of those...

<quote>
lParamSort
The column to sort by.

iSortDirection
Alphabetical sort direction for the column specified by lParamSort.
Use 1 for an ascending sort, -1 for a descending sort.
<quote>
from...
SHELLSTATE Structure
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

Gives the value for ShellState with the wrong number of bits (28)
for XP... Contents of the Open and Save As Dialog Boxes Sorted
Incorrectly http://support.microsoft.com/kb/233526

"ShellState" author:david author:candy
http://groups.google.com/groups?q="...1&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=4&as_maxy=2007&safe=off&


In Poprivet <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wesley,

Thanks, you helped me solve an annoyance I've had for some time,
but it didnt' go smoothly in my case. I was particularly
intrigued by the CTRL-Xbutton(close) statement, too; I'd never
heard of it before. In fact, I still don't know what it does
unless it's just a make-them-all-alike shortcut?

I only provide this info as sort of an FYI in case it matters to
anything, or should you have any comments you feel like making. I'm
just very happy to be finally rid of that annoyance!

At first restart, your fix seemed to work. But then I noticed
Windows Explorer had the sort order reversed. So, I corrected
that, used the CTRL-Xbutton again, and did a Restart.
Hmm, NOW the dialog boxes had reversed again. Back to Explorer,
and it looked OK. So I tried the process again; no change.
THEN I happened to notice that C:\ was sorted properly, but ALL
of the subfolders of ANY subfolder under C:\ was NOT, they were all
reverse sorted! And of course, Dialog Boxes were still sorted
wrong. So, with nothing to lose, I went back to Explorer and set a
subfolder to be properly sorted and used Tools, Apply to All
Folders. Then I did a Restart, and now, -finally-, all is fine! I
was prepared to repeat the instructions you provided, but didn't
have to. So far, three more Restarts later, all is fine; all sort
orders are as they should be. I -think- the conditional is that
one should run the Tools; Apply to All Folders before running the
fix. As I mentioned to, I think it was Frank, I -think- this
sorting issue
started with the install of an application for genealogy, but I
can't be certain. I'm going to purposely not run that program for
a few days to be sure this fix holds. If it does, I'll try a
reinstall of that app to see if it recreates the problem. At least
I'll know what causes the problem then, assuming it does, and what
to do about it. <g>. Regards,

Pop`



Wesley Vogel wrote:
Restore Sort order in Open and Save dialogs
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_opensaveorder.htm

Or...

<quote>
To resolve this behavior, reset the default sort order:
1. Right-click Start, click Explore and then click drive C.
2. On the View menu, click Details.
3. Click the Name column to sort items by name, press and hold
down the CTRL key, and then quit Windows Explorer by clicking
Close in the upper-right corner of the screen.
4. Release the CTRL key.
5. Restart your computer.

NOTE: You must perform these steps exactly as they are listed. For
example, do not quit Windows Explorer by clicking Exit on the File
menu. <quote>
from...
Items in "Open" and "Save As" Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229070


In Paul <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Whenever the standard windows file dialog box opens, called by
any program whatsoever, the entries appear in reverser order;
i.e., files first, in reverse alphabetical order, followed by the
sub-folders How do I get back to normal

 

[Wesley Vogel]

You don't by any chance have a brother by the name of Jack, do you?

No. One brother who works for Harcourt Assessment, Inc. in San Antonio, TX.

The other brother lives in Iowa and is a Marine Engineer. Right now he's on
the Horizon Tacoma, a container ship, about -150 00 latitude and 38 00
longitude. I wouldn't know that except I looked at the tracking map. ;-)

HORIZON TACOMA tracking map
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=KGTY

The Horizon Tacoma left Tacoma, Washington on 4/13/2007 10:00:00 PM and is
scheduled to arrive in Anchorage, Alaska on 4/17/2007 7:00:00 AM. He has
sailed with Horizon Lines on about the last half a dozen cruises. Horizon
Lines has 15 ships and I have lost count on many of those he has sailed on.

picture of the the Horizon Tacoma
http://www.oz.net/~bruce/Tour2/HorizonShips/pages/PICT0162.html

Profile For Horizon Tacoma
http://www.horizon-lines.com/sailstat/vslprofile.asp?VVD=TW677N&NAME=HORIZON+TACOMA

http://www.horizon-lines.com

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wesley, you have a knack and a half sometimes for answering questions that
didn't get asked; it only takes reading to discover it! I've been
thinking about going after the Classic Menu Setting too, for some time
now.
You don't by any chance have a brother by the name of Jack, do you? I
forget the middle initial but I could find it. He'd have worked in Chgo
for quite awhile at Hammond Organ - there are some written 'mannerisms'
that seem to almost but not quite connect the two of you sometimes.

Regards,

Pop`

UserPreferencesMask is another one that uses multiple bits for many
settings.

UserPreferencesMask
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/55198.mspx?mfr=true

Settings here is another.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

See...
The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.
here...
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/69a7c561cde0897b?hl=en


In

Hmm, thank you. Those are good leads and look like something
interesting to follow up on for my own edge-a-cashun. There is more
to it than I thought there would be: Nuttin' new 'bout that! <g>

Best Regards,

Pop`



Wesley Vogel wrote:
ShellState gets messed up is what causes it.

"Ctrl + Close button
Sets the system default settings, mainly sort order. Icon style is
not affected"
from David Candy

Ctrl + Close [X] saves folder settings. Sometimes the settings are
saved anyway, but Ctrl + Close is added insurance. I use Ctrl +
Close all of the time just out of habit.

Sets a couple of bits in ShellState here...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

Doug Knox's xp_shellstate.reg also resets the ShellState.

ShellState is a hex number that has 36 bits, if I counted
correctly. Two of those bits are used for sorting (20? & 21?). I
"think" that the Members in the following link correspond to the bits.

Two of those...

<quote>
lParamSort
The column to sort by.

iSortDirection
Alphabetical sort direction for the column specified by lParamSort.
Use 1 for an ascending sort, -1 for a descending sort.
<quote>
from...
SHELLSTATE Structure
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

Gives the value for ShellState with the wrong number of bits (28)
for XP... Contents of the Open and Save As Dialog Boxes Sorted
Incorrectly http://support.microsoft.com/kb/233526

"ShellState" author:david author:candy
http://groups.google.com/groups?q="...1&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=4&as_maxy=2007&safe=off&


In Poprivet <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wesley,

Thanks, you helped me solve an annoyance I've had for some time,
but it didnt' go smoothly in my case. I was particularly
intrigued by the CTRL-Xbutton(close) statement, too; I'd never
heard of it before. In fact, I still don't know what it does
unless it's just a make-them-all-alike shortcut?

I only provide this info as sort of an FYI in case it matters to
anything, or should you have any comments you feel like making. I'm
just very happy to be finally rid of that annoyance!

At first restart, your fix seemed to work. But then I noticed
Windows Explorer had the sort order reversed. So, I corrected
that, used the CTRL-Xbutton again, and did a Restart.
Hmm, NOW the dialog boxes had reversed again. Back to Explorer,
and it looked OK. So I tried the process again; no change.
THEN I happened to notice that C:\ was sorted properly, but ALL
of the subfolders of ANY subfolder under C:\ was NOT, they were all
reverse sorted! And of course, Dialog Boxes were still sorted
wrong. So, with nothing to lose, I went back to Explorer and set a
subfolder to be properly sorted and used Tools, Apply to All
Folders. Then I did a Restart, and now, -finally-, all is fine! I
was prepared to repeat the instructions you provided, but didn't
have to. So far, three more Restarts later, all is fine; all sort
orders are as they should be. I -think- the conditional is that
one should run the Tools; Apply to All Folders before running the
fix. As I mentioned to, I think it was Frank, I -think- this
sorting issue
started with the install of an application for genealogy, but I
can't be certain. I'm going to purposely not run that program for
a few days to be sure this fix holds. If it does, I'll try a
reinstall of that app to see if it recreates the problem. At least
I'll know what causes the problem then, assuming it does, and what
to do about it. <g>. Regards,

Pop`



Wesley Vogel wrote:
Restore Sort order in Open and Save dialogs
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_opensaveorder.htm

Or...

<quote>
To resolve this behavior, reset the default sort order:
1. Right-click Start, click Explore and then click drive C.
2. On the View menu, click Details.
3. Click the Name column to sort items by name, press and hold
down the CTRL key, and then quit Windows Explorer by clicking
Close in the upper-right corner of the screen.
4. Release the CTRL key.
5. Restart your computer.

NOTE: You must perform these steps exactly as they are listed. For
example, do not quit Windows Explorer by clicking Exit on the File
menu. <quote>
from...
Items in "Open" and "Save As" Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229070


In Paul <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Whenever the standard windows file dialog box opens, called by
any program whatsoever, the entries appear in reverser order;
i.e., files first, in reverse alphabetical order, followed by the
sub-folders How do I get back to normal