Restore won't die


L

Lil' Dave

I disabled system restore entirely. There were vestiges left behind with
empty System Volume Information folder on each partition. Those folders I
deleted with the exception on 2 different partitions where I was not allowed
access to these folders. These partitions are on separate hard drives.
Both are the last logical partition. One is NTFS, one is FAT32. Each
folder is 0 bytes, hidden, and read-only per properties.

I have since then, enabled system restore. Then, disabled system restore
for all "drives" except the c: drive. Restarted XP. Those same folders are
still inaccessible and cannot be deleted in the same locations I previously
described.

I am using HE XP w/SP3 up to date. I am the only user, and have
administrator rights.
How do I get rid of those folders within the default windows XP environment?
 
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SC Tom

Lil' Dave said:
I disabled system restore entirely. There were vestiges left behind with
empty System Volume Information folder on each partition. Those folders I
deleted with the exception on 2 different partitions where I was not
allowed access to these folders. These partitions are on separate hard
drives. Both are the last logical partition. One is NTFS, one is FAT32.
Each folder is 0 bytes, hidden, and read-only per properties.

I have since then, enabled system restore. Then, disabled system restore
for all "drives" except the c: drive. Restarted XP. Those same folders
are still inaccessible and cannot be deleted in the same locations I
previously described.

I am using HE XP w/SP3 up to date. I am the only user, and have
administrator rights.
How do I get rid of those folders within the default windows XP
environment?

Boot into Safe Mode, right click on each folder you want to remove and click
the Security tab. Add the user (probably you) that you want to use to have
access to the SVI folder. Reboot into normal mode and delete the folders you
don't need. You may have to change it from Read-only to get rid of it.

SC Tom
 
J

Jose

I disabled system restore entirely.  There were vestiges left behind with
empty System Volume Information folder on each partition.  Those folders I
deleted with the exception on 2 different partitions where I was not allowed
access to these folders.  These partitions are on separate hard drives.
Both are the last logical partition.  One is NTFS, one is FAT32.  Each
folder is 0 bytes, hidden, and read-only per properties.

I have since then, enabled system restore.  Then, disabled system restore
for all "drives" except the c: drive.  Restarted XP.  Those same folders are
still inaccessible and cannot be deleted in the same locations I previously
described.

I am using HE XP w/SP3 up to date.  I am the only user, and have
administrator rights.
How do I get rid of those folders within the default windows XP environment?

Disabling System Restore is a user choice - sometimes a bad one.

Are you are turning SR off and on and now tampering with the SVI
folders without knowing how things work, doing it for the heck of it,
because you don't like them, just because they are hidden, etc.

Some folks are just adamant about not having some folder on their
system that they can't get into and delete. It is most curious, but
it is better to understand what is going on and then deciding what to
do about it - if anything. Maybe nothing (probably better).

Stopping or starting SR does not change permissions on any SVI
folder. They are still inaccessible by default and on purpose. I
think they are created automatically on reboot even if SR is turned
off, you remove them in some "mode" other than a regular boot. I am
not in an experimenting mood today, but someone else will know for
sure.

Read here to start:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

A nice friendly article:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/getstarted/ballew_03may19.mspx

If you don't like or think you will never have use for SR, turn it
off, delete the contents of the SVIs and hope some day you never need
a Restore Point.
 
L

Lil' Dave

I disabled system restore entirely. There were vestiges left behind with
empty System Volume Information folder on each partition. Those folders I
deleted with the exception on 2 different partitions where I was not
allowed
access to these folders. These partitions are on separate hard drives.
Both are the last logical partition. One is NTFS, one is FAT32. Each
folder is 0 bytes, hidden, and read-only per properties.

I have since then, enabled system restore. Then, disabled system restore
for all "drives" except the c: drive. Restarted XP. Those same folders are
still inaccessible and cannot be deleted in the same locations I
previously
described.

I am using HE XP w/SP3 up to date. I am the only user, and have
administrator rights.
How do I get rid of those folders within the default windows XP
environment?

Disabling System Restore is a user choice - sometimes a bad one.

Are you are turning SR off and on and now tampering with the SVI
folders without knowing how things work, doing it for the heck of it,
because you don't like them, just because they are hidden, etc.

Some folks are just adamant about not having some folder on their
system that they can't get into and delete. It is most curious, but
it is better to understand what is going on and then deciding what to
do about it - if anything. Maybe nothing (probably better).

Stopping or starting SR does not change permissions on any SVI
folder. They are still inaccessible by default and on purpose. I
think they are created automatically on reboot even if SR is turned
off, you remove them in some "mode" other than a regular boot. I am
not in an experimenting mood today, but someone else will know for
sure.

Read here to start:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

A nice friendly article:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/getstarted/ballew_03may19.mspx

If you don't like or think you will never have use for SR, turn it
off, delete the contents of the SVIs and hope some day you never need
a Restore Point.
---------------------

I disabled system restore to purposely get at the System Volume Information
contents to be assured that those folders were void. AV detected a
potential virus threat in these folders. This seemed to be the quickest,
best way to do it. Obviously not in my case. Like or dislike has nothing
to do with it.

SVI is only needed in the XP windows partition. All others are a waste of
space and my PC's time.

Yes, I've seen the KB article on how to modify permissions for the SVI
folder. Thing is, I've never made any such permission to begin with. If
that exists, something else is broke iin XP.

SVI folders are not inaccessible by the system administartor IF system
restore is disabled, and everything is working as it should.

Consider a pulpit at eyelevel, not 30 stories above..
 
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J

Jose

Disabling System Restore is a user choice - sometimes a bad one.

Are you are turning SR off and on and now tampering with the SVI
folders without knowing how things work, doing it for the heck of it,
because you don't like them, just because they are hidden, etc.

Some folks are just adamant about not having some folder on their
system that they can't get into and delete.  It is most curious, but
it is better to understand what is going on and then deciding what to
do about it - if anything.  Maybe nothing (probably better).

Stopping or starting SR does not change permissions on any SVI
folder.  They are still inaccessible by default and on purpose.  I
think they are created automatically on reboot even if SR is turned
off, you remove them in some "mode" other than a regular boot.  I am
not in an experimenting mood today, but someone else will know for
sure.

Read here to start:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

A nice friendly article:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/getstarted/ba...

If you don't like or think you will never have use for SR, turn it
off, delete the contents of the SVIs and hope some day you never need
a Restore Point.
---------------------

I disabled system restore to purposely get at the System Volume Information
contents to be assured that those folders were void.  AV detected a
potential virus threat in these folders.  This seemed to be the quickest,
best way to do it.  Obviously not in my case.  Like or dislike has nothing
to do with it.

SVI is only needed in the XP windows partition.  All others are a wasteof
space and my PC's time.

Yes, I've seen the KB article on how to modify permissions for the SVI
folder.  Thing is, I've never made any such permission to begin with.  If
that exists, something else is broke iin XP.

SVI folders are not inaccessible by the system administartor IF system
restore is disabled, and everything is working as it should.

Consider a pulpit at eyelevel, not 30 stories above..

New information.

Do you mean something like:

My AV software reported infections in my system restore points and I
need to know the best way to remove all the suspicious restore points.

I also would like to be able to disable System Restore monitoring on
my second hard drive (NTFS). I don't care about restore points on
that drive.

After System Restore is no longer monitoring my second drive, is there
a method to permanently delete the SVI folder from the now unmonitored
drive?
 
L

Lil' Dave

Disabling System Restore is a user choice - sometimes a bad one.

Are you are turning SR off and on and now tampering with the SVI
folders without knowing how things work, doing it for the heck of it,
because you don't like them, just because they are hidden, etc.

Some folks are just adamant about not having some folder on their
system that they can't get into and delete. It is most curious, but
it is better to understand what is going on and then deciding what to
do about it - if anything. Maybe nothing (probably better).

Stopping or starting SR does not change permissions on any SVI
folder. They are still inaccessible by default and on purpose. I
think they are created automatically on reboot even if SR is turned
off, you remove them in some "mode" other than a regular boot. I am
not in an experimenting mood today, but someone else will know for
sure.

Read here to start:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

A nice friendly article:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/getstarted/ba...

If you don't like or think you will never have use for SR, turn it
off, delete the contents of the SVIs and hope some day you never need
a Restore Point.
---------------------

I disabled system restore to purposely get at the System Volume
Information
contents to be assured that those folders were void. AV detected a
potential virus threat in these folders. This seemed to be the quickest,
best way to do it. Obviously not in my case. Like or dislike has nothing
to do with it.

SVI is only needed in the XP windows partition. All others are a waste of
space and my PC's time.

Yes, I've seen the KB article on how to modify permissions for the SVI
folder. Thing is, I've never made any such permission to begin with. If
that exists, something else is broke iin XP.

SVI folders are not inaccessible by the system administartor IF system
restore is disabled, and everything is working as it should.

Consider a pulpit at eyelevel, not 30 stories above..

New information.

Do you mean something like:

My AV software reported infections in my system restore points and I
need to know the best way to remove all the suspicious restore points.

I also would like to be able to disable System Restore monitoring on
my second hard drive (NTFS). I don't care about restore points on
that drive.

After System Restore is no longer monitoring my second drive, is there
a method to permanently delete the SVI folder from the now unmonitored
drive?
 
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J

Jose

New information.

Do you mean something like:

My AV software reported infections in my system restore points and I
need to know the best way to remove all the suspicious restore points.

I also would like to be able to disable System Restore monitoring on
my second hard drive (NTFS).   I don't care about restore points on
that drive.

After System Restore is no longer monitoring my second drive, is there
a method to permanently delete the SVI folder from the now unmonitored
drive?

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No, I indicated what happened, and what occurred.  There was nothing wrong
with my approach.  The reason why I took such a course has nothing to do as
you insinuate.

Well, okay - I just wanted to try to understand exactly what you want
to do, and still have not seen a clear problem definition.

So far, it appears there are no problems with the tools, the problem
may be just learning to use the tools properly.

I thought I had an idea and you should have been relieved of this
relatively simple (and common) issue by now.

I'll see what the other folks come up with.
 

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