REQ: CHM files

[me]

Can you recommend a stand-alone CHM reader?

The chmencoder by GridinSoft looks nice but it always gives me
error:
"Can't read CHM format."

I'm looking for something that does not require IE.

TIA

J

 

[omega]

(e-mail address removed):

Can you recommend a stand-alone CHM reader?

The chmencoder by GridinSoft looks nice but it always gives me
error:
"Can't read CHM format."

I'm looking for something that does not require IE.

I believe your feasible route is to decompress CHM into web pages. From
there, use your web browser. Or else compile into whatever format it is
you prefer.

There are a good handful or programs that will do the decompress for you.
One that I like quite a lot is ChmDeco.

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/hhm/

Drop a CHM onto istorage.exe. You will get a very full extraction, which
includes the .hhc (Contents) and .hhk (Index) files.

 

[me]

(e-mail address removed):

I believe your feasible route is to decompress CHM into web
pages. From there, use your web browser. Or else compile
into whatever format it is you prefer.

There are a good handful or programs that will do the
decompress for you. One that I like quite a lot is ChmDeco.

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/hhm/

Drop a CHM onto istorage.exe. You will get a very full
extraction, which includes the .hhc (Contents) and .hhk
(Index) files.

Great. Thanks a lot.

J

 

[Susan Bugher]

omega wrote:

<SNIP>

"CHM" reminded me. . . The Pricelessware CHM files you created are
available at the PWH site. Any plans to update (new URL etc.)?

ISTM that making past years available in ZIP files might be helpful =>
download with HHtrack so the sortable PHP pages will still sort - then
zip and upload. What do you think?

Susan

 

[omega]

omega wrote:

"CHM" reminded me. . . The Pricelessware CHM files you created are
available at the PWH site. Any plans to update (new URL etc.)?

I have been dreadfully guilty in letting that lapse so long. :-<
Esp when my outdated CHMs rendered themselves more worthless with their
old PL links turned 404. Once I finally had got plenty of extra time
freed up, a month or two back, well, I looked at the calendar, and let
laziness talk me into the decision to not design a rebuild for the CHM
thing until after the PL2005 results...

ISTM that making past years available in ZIP files might be helpful =>
download with HHtrack so the sortable PHP pages will still sort - then
zip and upload. What do you think?

What is best? Individual web archives, one for each year? Or all of them
grouped into a single web archive? (If the latter, then: with or without
PL2005?)

 

[Susan Bugher]

Susan Bugher <[email protected]>:

Once I finally had got plenty of extra time
freed up, a month or two back, well, I looked at the calendar, and let
laziness talk me into the decision to not design a rebuild for the CHM
thing until after the PL2005 results...

Sounds like a sensible decision to me.

What is best? Individual web archives, one for each year? Or all of them
grouped into a single web archive? (If the latter, then: with or without
PL2005?)

I think archiving each year separately is by far the best plan => do it
once and it's *done*. JMHO.

Susan

 

[omega]

I think archiving each year separately is by far the best plan => do it
once and it's *done*. JMHO.

Susan, I think I need to ask you to flip a switch or something. The
PHP script is not kicking in for the PL2003 pages. Example -


http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2003/PL2003AlphabeticalList.php?sortby=Author

The PL2004 PHP sorts look fine, hooked in, just not that PL2003 set.

 

[Susan Bugher]

Susan, I think I need to ask you to flip a switch or something. The
PHP script is not kicking in for the PL2003 pages. Example -


http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2003/PL2003AlphabeticalList.php?sortby=Author

The PL2004 PHP sorts look fine, hooked in, just not that PL2003 set.

I believe I know what the problem is. Back soon.

Meanwhile. . .

I just uploaded a Treepad file

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/temp/acf_Programs.hjt

Susan

 

[Susan Bugher]

I believe I know what the problem is. Back soon.

Actually there were *two* problems.

Revised page is online. Let me know about any further errors/ difficulties.

Susan

 

[omega]

Actually there were *two* problems.

Revised page is online.

I think you have been taking lessons from Steven Burns, for how to get
tasks done in whirlwind time.

Let me know about any further errors/ difficulties.

You know, if I find anything, it'd likely be a discovery made hours or
days from now. Since my speed limit is Tortoise. When try to rev it into
a higher gear, the head bops up and down some, but the stubby legs still
plodge along at slowmo pace.

 

[Susan Bugher]

I think you have been taking lessons from Steven Burns, for how to get
tasks done in whirlwind time.

Steven's a *very* good teacher

(The hard part is figuring out what the problem is - these were changes
I had to make on other PHP pages so I knew what to change - I just had
forgotten to do it.)

Susan

 

[omega]

ISTM that making past years available in ZIP files might be helpful =>
download with HHtrack so the sortable PHP pages will still sort - then
zip and upload. What do you think?

I've uploaded to temp directoy. See if you need changes. Or preferred idea
for folder naming. Provisionally, I used "pl2004\pages". (Now that I look
at it, I see first change should be archive name change to PL or to pw, to
avoid the sneaky twin problem which shadows poor l.)

http://www.redshift.com/~omega/pw/tmp01/

 

[Susan Bugher]

Susan Bugher <[email protected]>:

http://www.redshift.com/~omega/pw/tmp01/

You've been busy. I downloaded everything - took a *quick* look last
night - nice - more comments when I've spent more time - I did see
some things *I* need to do. . .

The online directories are like so:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ index.html
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2003/ PL2003 files
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2004/ PL2004 files
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2005/ PL2005 files
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/ Ware Glossary, etc. etc.
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/members icons for the Members page
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/programs individual program files

The site is setup to be mirrored (online or locally). The zip files
should be:

Pricelessware.zip (index.html)
2003.zip (all pages)
2004.zip (all pages)
acf.zip (WareGlossary.php) (minimum) (If you want to include the
members page I can zip the icon directory for you.)

Maybe have a readme to explain the directory/ subdirectory . . .

HTH

Susan

 

[T0M]

omega a écrit:


For info, you can use Microsoft CHM wiever to decompile CHM file:
hh.exe -decompile tmpdir file.chm
where tmpdir is the folder where decompiled files will be and file.chm
the name of the CHM file to decompress.

T0M

 

[omega]

You've been busy. I downloaded everything - took a *quick* look last
night - nice - more comments when I've spent more time - I did see
some things *I* need to do. . .

Couple hours after posting the message on the upload, found a central
problem. The index.html for the 2004 arch, I"d had it pointing to
non-existent files. So fixed, and re-uploaded. Only now have I done what
I should have done long before uploading. Have Xenu check things out.

When Httrack retrieved files, it had given me, for the 2004 archive, a number
of file pairs: something01.htm, and something01.html. I took a quick look,
saw a pattern where the two files were either roughly the same, or, more
often, the .htm of the pair, it was missing the headers and footers. I
interpreted it as a script burp, that the generated .htms in those pairs
were not intended for the actual end-user browse. So deleted them. Not
thoroughly researching until now the internal filename referencing. IOW,
I was lazily riding the "assume" car in a big way.

What would be easiest for me to do at this stage, it's to give every file
in the 2004 archive an html extension, then do an SR of .htm for html. After
that, I'll have another conversation with Xenu.

Sorry to have uploaded so prematurely. It's kind of like posting: it's only
after the post has been sent, made public, that errors become visible.

 

[omega]

The online directories are like so:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2003/ PL2003 files
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2004/ PL2004 files [...]
The site is setup to be mirrored (online or locally).

Httrack, w the settings I use for pwh, it does mirror your directory
structure...

2003.zip (all pages)
2004.zip (all pages)

I was thinking about the arrival on end users' machine. That the name 2004,
all alone, for a web archive, it'd be easy to misplace...

 

[Susan Bugher]

Susan Bugher <[email protected]>:

Httrack, w the settings I use for pwh, it does mirror your directory
structure...


I was thinking about the arrival on end users' machine. That the name 2004,
all alone, for a web archive, it'd be easy to misplace...

The *top* level directory (that contains only the index) can be
"Pricelessware" or *any* name you like - the subdirectories should be
named; 2003, 2004, 2005, acf etc. etc. (not "pages") and they should all
be subdirectories of the *same* top directory.

You could make a Pricelessware2004.zip and have a Pricelessware2004
directory (with the index) and a 2004 subdirectory - but then you will
need an acf subdirectory for the Ware Glossary and navigation from one
year to another won't be easy for the user.

ISTM that it would be better to upload a readme.txt file that explains
the directory/subdirectory "how-to" to the person that's downloading. .
.. (Pricelessware.zip contains the index for all years, 2003.zip,
2004.zip etc. contain subdirectories)

I'll revise the index.html page and use it to show the index of *all*
files except the archives files - if some pages are taken offline I can
add notes to that effect - that way you'll be able to use a copy of the
index "as is" for your archive files. I'll upload the missing PL2003
pages so you can archive the complete set (and remove the CHM files from
the page since they are archive files). I'll delete the index files in
the 2003 and 2004 directories - they aren't needed now that the index is
shown on the first page.

Do you see any snags?

Susan

 

[me]

omega a écrit:



For info, you can use Microsoft CHM wiever to decompile CHM
file: hh.exe -decompile tmpdir file.chm
where tmpdir is the folder where decompiled files will be
and file.chm the name of the CHM file to decompress.

T0M

That would require some "new" .DLLs from IE 5+(?), would it not?

J

 

[Susan Bugher]

Couple hours after posting the message on the upload, found a central
problem. The index.html for the 2004 arch, I"d had it pointing to
non-existent files. So fixed, and re-uploaded. Only now have I done what
I should have done long before uploading. Have Xenu check things out.

ahem. asking me works too. . .

When Httrack retrieved files, it had given me, for the 2004 archive, a number
of file pairs: something01.htm, and something01.html. I took a quick look,
saw a pattern where the two files were either roughly the same, or, more
often, the .htm of the pair, it was missing the headers and footers. I
interpreted it as a script burp, that the generated .htms in those pairs
were not intended for the actual end-user browse. So deleted them. Not
thoroughly researching until now the internal filename referencing. IOW,
I was lazily riding the "assume" car in a big way.

The PHP files use files to create the web page: header1.htm,
header2.htm, header3.htm, footer.htm etc.

PL2004BUSINESS-HOME.htm is the *mid-section* of PL2004BUSINESS-HOME.php

Susan

 

[Susan Bugher]

I'll revise the index.html page and use it to show the index of *all*
files except the archives files - if some pages are taken offline I can
add notes to that effect - that way you'll be able to use a copy of the
index "as is" for your archive files. I'll upload the missing PL2003
pages so you can archive the complete set (and remove the CHM files from
the page since they are archive files). I'll delete the index files in
the 2003 and 2004 directories - they aren't needed now that the index is
shown on the first page.
DONE

Do you see any snags?

Susan