Report Report !! Biggest Vista piracy website found !!!

J

Janet Chen

it's a Chinese forum http://www.vistafans.com (aka http://bbs.pcbeta.com )
this website may restrict some overseas IP to access and registration may
required to view certain contents.
Someone forward this to MS legal department please !!

Chinese Vista 32bit/64bit download (over thousands of participants since Dec
1,2006)
http://www.vistafans.com/thread-68026-1-1.html

Latest KMS server update
http://www.vistafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=66374

image of KMS activation (first server)
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7913/kms01nk5.gif

image of KMS activation (second server)
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1599/kms02yr8.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7045/kms03rr7.jpg

third KMS server, 220.133.135.222: 1688 (this server created by VMware)
etc... all can be found in http://www.vistafans.com (aka
http://bbs.pcbeta.com )

Those KMS servers now run part-time irregularly and by members' request.
From the KMS threads in the forum, you can easily read that those KMS
servers actually
started service since mid Nov.

www.vistafans.com (aka http://bbs.pcbeta.com ) also include huge amount of
illegal Vista resources !!
 
M

Michael Cecil

Can you believe that? Anyone who follow instructions to download the
activated KMS vmware image can host their own KMS server and activate Vista
business without limit!!????
Click to expand...

Are you complaining or advertising? With all those URLs it seems like
you're advertising.
 
J

Janet Chen

if i don't qoute the URL, then how MS people start investigate?
you don't read Chinese right?
 
J

Janet Chen

Vista will suffer more than XP.

When XP launched in 2001, there's no good crack for XP in the first year.
That early Russian crack just make system unstale.
There were customers buying geninue XP until one day, Shanghai City
Govenment had a deal with Microsoft, then leaked both the XP and Volume
License Key(s) to the public.

The stupid KMS is not better than VLK. Many IT professional in China can
easily host a KMS server (with stolen KMS key) and start activate Vista
Business edition as early as BEFORE Vista come to the retail market...
Without a crack, perfect activation. KMS is disaster.

..... However, what confuse me is that Microsoft should already known that in
China, XP VLK piracy were indeed done by dishonest Govenment sectors and
Business partners. So now Microsoft should eliminate any kind of Volume
License in China. All Windows sold in China must be activated one by one
against servers in headquater USA.

And about Microsoft deal with branded PC manufacturer, pre-installed
Windows???

Not many Chinese buy brand PC, most prefer DIY. Even for the brand PCs, only
top-end models from few brands pre-installed Windows.
The majority brand PCs still no Windows.
 
R

Roscoe

.... However, what confuse me is that Microsoft should already known that
in
China, XP VLK piracy were indeed done by dishonest Govenment sectors and
Business partners. So now Microsoft should eliminate any kind of Volume
License in China. All Windows sold in China must be activated one by one
against servers in headquater USA.
Click to expand...

Maybe MS just doesn't really care.
 
M

mlai

Maybe MS purposely leak that so that they can maintain market share.....
After all, the Chinese did put out and advertise the use of FreeBSD/linux
based OS.......
 
J

Janet Chen

Roscoe said:
Maybe MS just doesn't really care.
Click to expand...
****

Micrsoft should care NOW...
find a solution ASAP, just in case, in the next few months, hundreds of
Chinese KMS servers appear on the Internet and get out of control.

"Let's build a KMS server" is getting hot in China...

Quite a lot of Chinese IT websites now teach you how to build a KMS server.
 
M

Mr. Vista

Janet Chen said:
****

Micrsoft should care NOW...
find a solution ASAP, just in case, in the next few months, hundreds of
Chinese KMS servers appear on the Internet and get out of control.

"Let's build a KMS server" is getting hot in China...

Quite a lot of Chinese IT websites now teach you how to build a KMS
server.
Click to expand...


So what?.
This is a peer to peer newsgroup, not a peer to Microsoft newsgroup.
If you are so 'concerned' then tell Microsoft.
 
A

Alan

Hi Roscoe,

From reading this and other threads in this group regarding Vista piracy in
China, I think Microsoft realizes that there's nothing it can do about
piracy there, especially as it appears to be sanctioned -- at least
unofficially -- by both Microsoft and its business partners in that country.

Microsoft makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
prices for its customers here in the USA. In effect, those of us in the USA
who buy Vista or purchase machines with Vista already preinstalled, are
subsidizing the piracy.

Microsoft is making the profit for worldwide sales of Vista that it's
established in its business model, those in China are getting it for
nothing -- and we USA customers are paying the bill.

Alan
 
M

Mike

Alan said:
Hi Roscoe,
Microsoft makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
prices for its customers here in the USA.
Click to expand...

Apple makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
prices for its customers here in the USA.

Adobe makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
prices for its customers here in the USA.

Everyone makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
prices for its customers here in the USA.

What's your point?

Mike
 
M

Michael Cecil

if i don't qoute the URL, then how MS people start investigate?
you don't read Chinese right?
Click to expand...

If you are interested in MS investigating, then email them at
(e-mail address removed).

If you are interested in spreading piracy, then continue to post the URLs
to this newsgroup which MS does not monitor.
 
A

Alan

My point is why should American customers be the financial angels for these
Corporate behemoths who can't stanch the piracy -- and who apparently don't
give a shit -- so long as the bottom line to keep stockholders happy is
achieved?

Microsoft makes a huge deal about "taking piracy seriously," but it seems
the only place it takes it seriously is in the USA, where it can try to
intimidate users of its products.

Alan
 
A

Alan

Michael,

If you truly believe that Microsoft does not monitor these newsgroups,
you're being naive. Microsoft might never acknowledge its read-only-mode
presence here, but it would be very stupid of Microsoft not to use these
newsgroups as a useful source of information.

Alan
 
M

mlai

MS does monitor these newsgroups, partly because these are part of the
technet monitored newgroups.....
 
J

Janet Chen

Alan said:
Hi Roscoe,
Microsoft makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
prices for its customers here in the USA. In effect, those of us in the
USA who buy Vista or purchase machines with Vista already preinstalled,
are subsidizing the piracy.

Microsoft is making the profit for worldwide sales of Vista that it's
established in its business model, those in China are getting it for
nothing -- and we USA customers are paying the bill.

Alan
Click to expand...
****
Pricing for Chinese Vista in China is only 10 - 15% lower than US pricing.
Take Home Premium for example, wholesale price is 1536, retail price expect
to be 1650 Yuan or USD 212.
Not many Chinese home users willing to pay this price for a Windows.
I think if the price can drop to 600 Yuan or USD 78 can definitely attract
much more people to purchase.
By the way, who use Simplified Chinese Windows in the world? Only people in
Mainland China.
So don't worry about export dumping.


Wholesale price for Chinese Vista in China.

¡@¡@66J-00199 Windows Vista Business ChnSimp DVD 1,806

¡@¡@66G-00142 Windows Vista Home Basic ChnSimp DVD 1,295

¡@¡@66I-00166 Windows Vista Home Prem ChnSimp DVD 1,536

¡@¡@66R-00187 Windows Vista Ultimate ChnSimp DVD 2,421¡@
 
D

Dr. Heywood Floyd

Says one with no less than three links in his signature. Advertising
are ya?
 
M

Mario Rosario

So what? It is no good for those who can't read chinese, we can't figure out
how to use it.
 
H

Henry

Hi, don't get your self in trouble posting, if they haven't seen your posts
by now then they are blind.
 
D

DCR

From what I've read in this newsgroup, those in Europe and Australia
are footing much more of the bill.


| Hi, don't get your self in trouble posting, if they haven't seen your posts
| by now then they are blind.
|
| | >
| > "Alan" <[email protected]>
| > ?¤J®ø®§·s?:[email protected]...
| >> Hi Roscoe,
| >> Microsoft makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
| >> prices for its customers here in the USA. In effect, those of us in the
| >> USA who buy Vista or purchase machines with Vista already preinstalled,
| >> are subsidizing the piracy.
| >>
| >> Microsoft is making the profit for worldwide sales of Vista that it's
| >> established in its business model, those in China are getting it for
| >> nothing -- and we USA customers are paying the bill.
| >>
| >> Alan
| > ****
| > Pricing for Chinese Vista in China is only 10 - 15% lower than US pricing.
| > Take Home Premium for example, wholesale price is 1536, retail price
| > expect to be 1650 Yuan or USD 212.
| > Not many Chinese home users willing to pay this price for a Windows.
| > I think if the price can drop to 600 Yuan or USD 78 can definitely attract
| > much more people to purchase.
| > By the way, who use Simplified Chinese Windows in the world? Only people
| > in Mainland China.
| > So don't worry about export dumping.
| >
| >
| > Wholesale price for Chinese Vista in China.
| >
| > ¡@¡@66J-00199 Windows Vista Business ChnSimp DVD 1,806
| >
| > ¡@¡@66G-00142 Windows Vista Home Basic ChnSimp DVD 1,295
| >
| > ¡@¡@66I-00166 Windows Vista Home Prem ChnSimp DVD 1,536
| >
| > ¡@¡@66R-00187 Windows Vista Ultimate ChnSimp DVD 2,421¡@
| >
| >
|
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