Replace Mobo in XP??

[relic]

I hadn't bothered posting to this one because the guy obviously
doesn't want to listen but just for kicks I'll put my vote in as well.
Repair install is the easiest least painful way to do a Mobo change
unless you get lucky and XP see's the Mobo on it's own.
There thats what like 20 votes for a epair install now? lol

That's just 20 who are wrong. Ask jim.

(Wait.... you don't mean it the other way around, do you?)

 

[wojo]

That's just 20 who are wrong. Ask jim.

(Wait.... you don't mean it the other way around, do you?)

yup, 20 who are wrong and Jim all by his little lonesome as the only right
one CHAWhatever
lol

 

[jim]

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

 

[jim]

I hadn't bothered posting to this one because the guy obviously doesn't want
to listen but just for kicks I'll put my vote in as well.
Repair install is the easiest least painful way to do a Mobo change unless
you get lucky and XP see's the Mobo on it's own.
There thats what like 20 votes for a epair install now? lol

The web is full of votes and "how to-s" otherwise as I've cited. The
accumulation of fogger trolls here has no meaning.

 

[Diogenes]

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until someone
agrees with you?

 

[wojo]

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone
agrees with you?

What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

 

[Diogenes]

What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers will save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the rim of
Kilauea.

 

[wojo]

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers will
save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the rim of
Kilauea.

Except so far I haven't seen any followers

 

[Diogenes]

Except so far I haven't seen any followers

Well, yes... there _is_ that. But, his last post said that the "wackos" that
didn't agree were "just a few." I wonder where they are.

 

[wojo]

Well, yes... there _is_ that. But, his last post said that the "wackos"
that
didn't agree were "just a few." I wonder where they are.

I haven't been able to figure that one out either.

 

[jim]

Except so far I haven't seen any followers

Except for the folks who report it works here for them and the web is full
of more such folks and the "how to-s" so associated. Just the local fogger
trolls are troubled and that's not surprising as they been telling folks
that it can't be done. Such folks always go crackers when they are shown to
have been blowing frags for sometime. Such trolls always attack the poster
rather than cite any real support for their debunked assertions.

Notice how they form up into little troll packs. If one views their posting
history in Google Groups then what they are becomes apparent.

 

[Plato]

I hadn't bothered posting to this one because the guy obviously doesn't want
to listen but just for kicks I'll put my vote in as well.
Repair install is the easiest least painful way to do a Mobo change unless
you get lucky and XP see's the Mobo on it's own.
There thats what like 20 votes for a epair install now? lol

An XP repair install is like deleting the HKEY LM | Enum branch in w9x
after installing a new mobo. Of course, it may not be needed if XP, or
in the past, if win9X found all the new resources and had no problem
"ignoring" the old resources. So I guess I agree. Oh, I also recommend
snipping the troll NG if you notice it in the crosspost.

 

[news.verizon.net]

Also be careful about not having any encrypted files or folders made
private. I remember that once I could not access my data after a new install
because I had password. Or learn how to back up your encryption keys.

I'd like to ask some questions about replacing/changing a mobo in an XP
pro

system. I've done some research on this issue and have come to the
following

conclusions.

XP is not quite as Plug & Play as 98[SE] was in this regard. One can not
just take the OS HD and put it in another box and expect it to boot and
re-find everything and install all the appropriate drivers etc. like it
would in 98SE.

The limitations appear to be in two areas. The first is the HAL which is
a

function of the CPU and number thereof and presence/absence of ACPI mobo
BIOS. The second is the HD drivers.

I've found all sorts of site/articles regarding how to do this and fix
these

issues for the mobo ATA controller case. Other HD cases seem to be
tractable using the F6 install drivers(SCSI technique). One that seems
to
be similar to many others regarding the mobo ATA HD issue is:
www.mostlycreativeworkshop.com/article11.html

My conclusion is that one should make the registry and file additions on
any

XP system so that failure recovery on new hardware is more convenient at
a
later time. Am I missing something here or is that about right.

The second issue is that HAL. If the old and new systems are single CPU
ACPI mobos then everything works. It makes no difference is one is a VIA
chipset and Athlon and the other an Intel chipset and an Intel CPU. Do I
have this right so far?

If one is going from a single CPU case to a new P4 supporting HT then one
must force in a new HAL for multiprocessor ACPI. Apparently that can be
done in Recovery console or by putting the HD in another system where
files

may be manipulated before attempting a boot on the new mobo. Right so
far?

Are the above the only two issues? Will all the other gadgets and
chipsets

etc. be redetected and appropriate drivers installed? Will one be able
to
boot and move forward in most all cases if the above two issues are dealt
with?

Why not back up your data and reinstall on the new setup?
If the old MB is bad, install your drive as a slave in another PC then
backup.

I agree-why all the extra headache when you could just either back up
or install it as a slave or partition it first and dual boot?...

 

[jim is an idiot]

Except for the folks who report it works here for them and the web is
full of more such folks and the "how to-s" so associated. Just the

Liar. Cites.

local fogger trolls are troubled and that's not surprising as they
been telling folks that it can't be done. Such folks always go
crackers when they are shown to have been blowing frags for sometime.

Liar. They know far more workable methods to do things than do you.

Such trolls always attack the poster rather than cite any real
support for their debunked assertions.

Liar. Only idiots (that would be you) get attacked.

Notice how they form up into little troll packs. If one views their
posting history in Google Groups then what they are becomes apparent.

Liar. If you knew how to use Google Groups, you wouldn't have made such an
absurd post in the first place.

 

[Franksta]

Hmmm ... I have been reading this thread trying to figure out what you are
trying to achieve but it seems you are only talking about a hardware swap in
Win XP (home or pro makes no difference).

If I had a whole day to swap hardware parts and tootoo with the OS, then
yea, why not do it your way, would beat the hell out of having to check the
same install screen between other tasks. But I think the guys here are
working on the following premise : expediance and highest possibility for
success.

Change the hardware, reboot and test -working, excellent done! If not
working next step
Try reinstall over the top (aforementioned repair install) then test -
working, great finished! If not working
Slave back-up, clean, reinstall - not working
Other issue, different job - tshoot accordingly

Admin time ... about an hour or so spread over a day. Your way if it works
may shave time off but it looks pretty prone for failure at the moment, so
you spend about an hour or so working through the recovery console and the
F6 driver install page, make it work ... nice job. Don't make it work ...
start on the process above. This effectively doubles the admin time to
complete a simple hardware swap.

Hmmm ... let me see which I would go for ... 1 hour max or 2 plus hours.

I think I would go for the hour at this stage, means I get more time to
search for those elusive "Fix it all, forever" documents that I am sure
someone has on the net.

 

[Guest]

Hello, I've switched 3 MoBos with the same operating system, XP pro, and found no hardware problems at all! In fact it did reinstalled the necessary drivers as it saw fit, I merely plugged the same hard disk into 3 different systems, as follows
Soyo DRAGON KT400 to Gigabyte KT600 to Soyo DRAGON KT600
Hardware variance:
ON the KT40
AthlonXP 2800
Muskin DDR400 512M
RADEON 9800 X
Western Digital 100GB 8Meg Buffer With XP Pro installe

ON the Gigabyte KT60
AthlonXP 3200+ (changed
same as above, save the CPU, no Windows reinstalation

On the Soyo Dragon KT60
Same as abov

I continued to use the same Windows and saw no performance dilapidation, nor any sign indicating a system error, in fact I wasn't even encouraged to reinstall windows until I bought a new Hard Drive.

I hope this was helpful, any doubts please mail me since I don't visit these forums often

Regards

Arcadius