Replace a Q9550?

[John Doe]

What's the cost for a comparable CPU with 12 GB cache memory?
From a reputable store, including shipping and taxes.

Memory is dirt cheap, but looks like CPU prices are high.

 

[Paul]

What's the cost for a comparable CPU with 12 GB cache memory?
From a reputable store, including shipping and taxes.

Memory is dirt cheap, but looks like CPU prices are high.

Comparable meaning "can be for any other socket, I'll need
a new motherboard and RAM" kind of comparable ?

Use this site, to get ballpark benchmark figures. If you were cost
sensitive, you could look for the nearest AMD processor
to your Intel. That's about the easiest way to shave costs.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz 12MB L2 4037 passmark LGA775 ($530)

Intel Core i5-2310 @ 2.90GHz 6MB L3 5594 passmark LGA1155 $190
Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.3GHz 6MB L3 6450 passmark LGA1155 $220

Intel Core i7-3770K @ 3.50GHz 8MB L3 9637 passmark LGA1155 $330
Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.20GHz 12MB L3 12107 passmark LGA2011 $570

AMD FX-8120 Eight-Core @ 3.10GHz 8MB L3 6643 passmark AM3+ $160
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core @ 4.00GHz 8MB L3 9076 passmark AM3+ $200

AMD Phenom II X4 965 @ 3.4GHz 6MB L3 4312 passmark AM3 $100

I tried to pick the 2310, as a quad core just above the 4000 passmark range.
There are some dual cores a bit lower than 5594, but I know you wouldn't
be happy if a threw a dual core into the mix. So the 2310 is about as
close as I could adjust, and get something that's half-close.

The 2500K for reference, was the "most popular" LGA1155 on the Newegg site.
And just a bit more expensive than the 2310.

The 3770K is to show what's possible in the socket. More than double your
original processor.

The 3930K is the most cost effective LGA2011. And gives three times your
original performance.

I can't really match cache, because each generation takes a slightly
different approach. Cache is added in some cases, as a crutch. Take
the 8350 for example, which has 8MB of L2 and 8MB of L3. That's a bit
of overkill.

The AMD processors do pretty good on the benchmark, for the money.

I threw in the 965, as one of the more ancient AMD offerings that is
still worthwhile. I was surprised to find how close it is to your Q9550.
And, it's only $100 at the moment. I remember when some single core
AthlonXP processors were clearing for prices like that

Caveat emptor... could be copy/paste errors... blah blah blah...

Paul

 

[John Doe]

Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz 12MB L2 4037 passmark
LGA775 ($530)

Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.20GHz 12MB L3 12107 passmark
LGA2011 $570

That is impressive… A CPU that has the same number of cores, that
has a 13% faster clock, and the same 12 MB cache, benchmarks 300%
faster!

I can't really match cache, because each generation takes a
slightly different approach. Cache is added in some cases, as a
crutch.

Usually, more memory/speed/cores means a faster system.

I threw in the 965, as one of the more ancient AMD offerings
that is still worthwhile. I was surprised to find how close it
is to your Q9550. And, it's only $100 at the moment.

The Q6600 is going for about $100, too. That is pretty amazing
though, considering the fact that the Q9550 is still selling for
over $300, and the fact that the rest of the family is still in
the hundreds, and they are in stock.

Search Amazon for...

Quad core Intel CPU "Q9550"

 

[Paul]

That is impressive… A CPU that has the same number of cores, that
has a 13% faster clock, and the same 12 MB cache, benchmarks 300%
faster!


Usually, more memory/speed/cores means a faster system.


The Q6600 is going for about $100, too. That is pretty amazing
though, considering the fact that the Q9550 is still selling for
over $300, and the fact that the rest of the family is still in
the hundreds, and they are in stock.

Search Amazon for...

Quad core Intel CPU "Q9550"

I think the 3930K is six cores. That probably helps.

Paul

 

[Loren Pechtel]

What's the cost for a comparable CPU with 12 GB cache memory?
From a reputable store, including shipping and taxes.

Memory is dirt cheap, but looks like CPU prices are high.

There's no such beast.

I've never heard of a processor with 12gb of cache!

 

[Red Cloud]

Memory is dirt cheap, but looks like CPU prices are high.

DDR memory is cheap because it can't design and manufacture by your
****ing
lazy white Caucasian race. If your race is only race able to
monopolize DDR memory production, you have to pay for average $50 per
Gig. Only reason you are able to buy $10/Giga for Samsung DDR is
because Samsung is Asian company and they are using the currency
artificially lowered by Wall Street crony capitalists thieves, and
that we called (phony baloney) global capitalism.

Of course, if Samsung is a Europe or USA company, they can sell DDR
$50 per gig
so they can reap out huge profit margin like Intel and Microsoft.

Most of your PC items are dirty cheap since it is mostly produced by
Asian labor not by lazy addicted Caucasian race. Obviously CPU is
only PC part dominated by White race and that's ****ing reason why
you are ****ing complaining your CPU is not like dirty cheap Asian
part.

 

[Red Cloud]

There's no such beast.

I've never heard of a processor with 12gb of cache!

he wanna dirty cheap 12gb asian cache!!!!!

 

[Paul]

DDR memory is cheap because it can't design and manufacture by your ****ing

Not really. Memory is cheap because of the invention of
12" wafers and the silicon fabs that go with them. A 12"
wafer contains a ton of memory chips. To stay competitive
(make the memory chips for the same price), all manufacturers
have to switch to 12" lines. Once they do that, they're buried
in a glut of memory chips. According to the laws of supply and
demand, this causes the price to drop. In some cases, the
price even drops below the cost of production.

In the past, national governments would prop up the memory
companies, providing financial means to keep them in business.
This is of course, a recipe for disaster. It creates a
market distortion that can't be sustained forever.

The recent world wide financial crisis, makes it kinda difficult
for national governments to keep up this game, and one of the
memory manufacturers was bought out (and presumably their
production will be crushed). It wouldn't take too many
more of those kinds of events, before rational response
to abnormal supply versus demand takes over. If it wasn't
for the meddling of national governments in the first place,
this reduction in the number of suppliers would have
happened long ago. (Just as now, there are basically
only two disk drive manufacturers.) Once the number of
suppliers drops, fabs are shuttered, you're going to be
sorry you ever said anything about cheap memory.

"July 2, 2012 Micron Buys Mobile DRAM Maker Elpida for $2.5 Billion"

http://www.datamation.com/mobile-wireless/micron-buys-mobile-dram-maker-elpida-for-2.5-billion.html

"Feb 27, 2012 Elpida seeks bankruptcy protection, $5.6 billion debt"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-elpida-idUSTRE81Q0OQ20120227

"December 26, 2011 DRAM Consolidation in 2012? "

http://thememoryguy.com/category/memory-manufacturers/page/3/

"At its peak in the late 1980s the DRAM market sported 23 suppliers.
Today there are 6 suppliers of any note:

Samsung, Hynix, Micron, Elpida, Nanya, and Powerchip

The already-depressed market is only going to worsen in 2012.
Capital spending in 2010 is seeing to that. Although many believe
that prices cannot get any lower, that is exactly what they will
do in 2012"

HTH,
Paul

 

[John Doe]

foulmouthed racist...

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DDR memory is cheap because it can't design and manufacture by your
****ing
lazy white Caucasian race. If your race is only race able to
monopolize DDR memory production, you have to pay for average $50 per
Gig. Only reason you are able to buy $10/Giga for Samsung DDR is
because Samsung is Asian company and they are using the currency
artificially lowered by Wall Street crony capitalists thieves, and
that we called (phony baloney) global capitalism.

Of course, if Samsung is a Europe or USA company, they can sell DDR
$50 per gig
so they can reap out huge profit margin like Intel and Microsoft.

Most of your PC items are dirty cheap since it is mostly produced by
Asian labor not by lazy addicted Caucasian race. Obviously CPU is
only PC part dominated by White race and that's ****ing reason why
you are ****ing complaining your CPU is not like dirty cheap Asian
part.

 

[Red Cloud]

Not really. Memory is cheap because of the invention of
12" wafers and the silicon fabs that go with them. A 12"
wafer contains a ton of memory chips. To stay competitive
(make the memory chips for the same price), all manufacturers
have to switch to 12" lines. Once they do that, they're buried
in a glut of memory chips. According to the laws of supply and
demand, this causes the price to drop. In some cases, the
price even drops below the cost of production.

In the past, national governments would prop up the memory
companies, providing financial means to keep them in business.
This is of course, a recipe for disaster. It creates a
market distortion that can't be sustained forever.

The recent world wide financial crisis, makes it kinda difficult
for national governments to keep up this game, and one of the
memory manufacturers was bought out (and presumably their
production will be crushed). It wouldn't take too many
more of those kinds of events, before rational response
to abnormal supply versus demand takes over. If it wasn't
for the meddling of national governments in the first place,
this reduction in the number of suppliers would have
happened long ago. (Just as now, there are basically
only two disk drive manufacturers.) Once the number of
suppliers drops, fabs are shuttered, you're going to be
sorry you ever said anything about cheap memory.

"July 2, 2012 Micron Buys Mobile DRAM Maker Elpida for $2.5 Billion"

http://www.datamation.com/mobile-wireless/micron-buys-mobile-dram-mak...

"Feb 27, 2012 Elpida seeks bankruptcy protection, $5.6 billion debt"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-elpida-idUSTRE81Q0OQ2012...

"December 26, 2011 DRAM Consolidation in 2012? "

http://thememoryguy.com/category/memory-manufacturers/page/3/

    "At its peak in the late 1980s the DRAM market sported 23 suppliers.
     Today there are 6 suppliers of any note:

     Samsung, Hynix, Micron, Elpida, Nanya, and Powerchip

     The already-depressed market is only going to worsen in 2012.
     Capital spending in 2010 is seeing to that. Although many believe
     that prices cannot get any lower, that is exactly what they will
     do in 2012"

HTH,
    Paul

This has little to do with supply & demand law you've learned in your
classroom. It has to do with unfair unbalanced economic system
between Asia-Pacific and Western nation that your educators hardly
admitted. Most memory is produced at Third-world labor cost and that's
why you can buy very cheap price. Not only cheap memory, most PC parts
are cheap at producing Third-World labor cost so that
you are able to afford Asian made PC part at low price with US
dollar currency you are using it. If Asian nation use same currency
as US dollars, you have to pay over $50 per one gig memory.

With cheap Asian labor cost, you are able to afford low price PC
parts (because you are using high value US dollar currency, not cheap
Asian currency), and the
keep the competition among Asian manufacturers so they are unable to
bring up the price.

On the other hand, Intel, Microsoft, and Apple are not into cheap
Asian competition since they are the market monopolizer and that's
the reason their product price has not gone down.

The problem faced by semi-conductors manufacture is the result out of
the over-production and fierce competition which drove some memory
makers out of the business, and only strong company survived such as
Samsung. But Samsung is fully supported by Korean gov't politically
and financially as well as they have backup with huge financial
resource.

All in all, no matter what your awareness is, you are in Western
colonial comfort zone and Asian enslaved economic system produce cheap
memory and cheap PC part for you.

 

[Red Cloud]

The terrible thing being that Asians sell people.  They even sell their
daughters.

You expect them to sell at Whitetrash Jackass loser like you.


Explain why most K-POP fans are females.

 

[John Doe]

Never assume that a racist respects its own people. A racist is
consumed with hate, not just for others.

Foulmouthed racist..