Repair install hangs!

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KT

I'm doing a repair install of XP SP2, and after the first reboot .. which is
back to SP1 ... it says "cannot find file 'asms' on E: drive". I looked on
the XP cd and "asms" is a sub-folder of \i386, but there is no file named
"asms" anything. I typed in E:\i386\asms in the search bar, but it still
says "cannot find". There is no "browse" or "skip" option on this message
window either, only "OK" or "cancel". When you hit cancel, it says "windows
repair install is not complete and cannot continue". Now what?
TIA
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

"The file 'Asms' on Windows XP Professional CD-ROM is needed"
error message when you install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311755/en-us

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| I'm doing a repair install of XP SP2, and after the first reboot .. which is
| back to SP1 ... it says "cannot find file 'asms' on E: drive". I looked on
| the XP cd and "asms" is a sub-folder of \i386, but there is no file named
| "asms" anything. I typed in E:\i386\asms in the search bar, but it still
| says "cannot find". There is no "browse" or "skip" option on this message
| window either, only "OK" or "cancel". When you hit cancel, it says "windows
| repair install is not complete and cannot continue". Now what?
| TIA
 
G

Guest

Carey Frisch said:
"The file 'Asms' on Windows XP Professional CD-ROM is needed"
error message when you install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311755/en-us

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| I'm doing a repair install of XP SP2, and after the first reboot .. which is
| back to SP1 ... it says "cannot find file 'asms' on E: drive". I looked on
| the XP cd and "asms" is a sub-folder of \i386, but there is no file named
| "asms" anything. I typed in E:\i386\asms in the search bar, but it still
| says "cannot find". There is no "browse" or "skip" option on this message
| window either, only "OK" or "cancel". When you hit cancel, it says "windows
| repair install is not complete and cannot continue". Now what?
| TIA

Complaints in newsgroups, etc., about this "missing asms file" issue go back about five years. I personally have encountered the error at least three times in as many years. Microsoft's Knowledge Base article Q311755 -- the one that MVPs refer XP users to when they respond to this complaint -- is irrelevant and useless. What we have here is a serious bug in the Windows XP setup CD that MVPs probably do not know about. Not only is it a serious defect, one that affects virtually every copy of XP Professional Setup CD and DVD (I don't know about Home ed, never used it), but it is a defect that has never been acknowledged by Microsoft; there is no helpful KB article about it, no workaround.

It's as hard to be precise about this as it is to be brief, because now that
I've spent three days restoring my OS and apps, I don't want to step through
the XP CD setup steps again. But I can summarize briefly for all MVPs who
may be listening: 1) what leads up to this Windows XP setup disk error; 2)
how to reproduce the "missing asms file" bug on the XP setup CD; 3) why the
KB article Q31175 is unhelpful.

1. A user elects this "repair" option in the XP Setup only after all other
efforts to recover have failed. I got to this do-or-die place last week by
exporting and then deleting 10 registry keys that all pertained (I thought)
to an app that didn't properly uninstall itself.

You've tried "Last Known Good Configuration", Safe Boot and its variants,
and you know you can't boot to Safe mode; you've tried "Don't reboot after
startup failure" (or whatever the wording is, toward the bottom of the list)
-- you'll get a Hex 7B error code in this case, which no one in all of New
Delhi understands. Without Safe Mode, you cannot import saved "reg" files,
run the Reg.exe tool, restore a System State backup made with NT Backup, or
use System Restore. You've tried the Recovery Console, and copied the
original five registry files from Repair subfolder of Sys32, and that doesn't
work either.

2. According to the authoritative "Windows XP: Inside Out" (Microsoft,
2001, p.815ff), "you may be able to repair your Windows XP installation using
the Windows Setup program. . . . The repair option is quick and painless..."
The same advice appears in other XP books. This is *not* the repair option
that appears right after "Welcome to Setup" screen. At that screen, press
Enter, not R. Then press F8 to accept the EULA, and from the screen showing
your Windows installations (usually one), choose the correct installation,
and *then* press R. The setup program reloads XP OS files, then reboots your
PC. Soon after this reboot, you'll get a message saying the system cannot
find a file called "ASMS", and it gives you an input box to enter the correct
path of that file. However, though an ASMS *folder* exists, there is no ASMS
file on *any* Windows XP setup disk, no way to work around the error, and no
way (for any XP Professional user anywhere in the world) to continue past
this point. The "repair" option has to fail for everyone who tries it.


At this point, you write to a newsgroup or search Microsoft or Google for a
KB article that could help. Or, like me, you call Microsoft Tech Support
(incident 1038826788) about the problem -- they'll guide you through all the
above steps, and then give up when you get to the ASMS error, advise you to
reinstall XP, and refund your $80.

3. The only Microsoft Knowledge Base article that pertains to this issue,
Q311755, under the section on the NTFS file system, offers three "methods" to
fix the problem. The first, running RegEdit, can only work if you can get to
the command prompt -- but if you could run Windows in Safe Mode, you would
not be using this last resort from the setup disk in the first place. The
second method advises installing Windows in another partition; no thanks,
that is no easier than reinstalling the whole OS on the main partition. The
third method says to "use the original XP CDROM" (the one with the hologram),
not a copy. If the original can't be found, "look for the Asms folder. If
the folder is missing or the files that it contains are zero bytes, the
CD-ROM was not burned correctly. "

But as stated above, while an ASMS folder exists, there is no ASMS file,
even on the hologram copy of the XP Pro setup CD. That's why this third
solution always fails.

It is time Microsoft publicly acknowledged this defect in its omnipresent XP
Setup disk CD and offer some kind of workaround. I also would appreciate it
if Microsoft tech support representatives would stop pretending they don't
know about this issue. I am convinced they do know about it, because in all
three cases where I have called upon their help over the past three years,
they have known when to give up and offer a refund: "ASMS File Not Found" is
endgame; they all know it, and unlike the KB article, they don't bother
asking you if you are using an original hologram XP setup disk or advising
you to try a different CD ROM drive, because they know that neither of these
steps makes any difference.

I don't plan to buy Vista until all the serious bugs in XP have been worked
out. I can handle minor bugs -- no OS is perfect -- but this is not minor!
I suggest other XP Professional users do likewise.
 
E

ElizaDoolittle

I share David's experience, down to having it happen on multiple occasions,
with multi machines. Right now, I am down to going into "repair" after the
reboot during the first part of reinstall and disabling system restore, for
other reasons. Sorry, out of time.

But yyyou get the pic.... Is the disabling sysrestore a problem? I have
what I think are good reasons.
 
M

Michael

"The rain in Spain has fallen mainly on your head!"

Thanks for quoting the whole useless thread. Now, if you want to learn how
to post to a newsgroup correctly and not hijack an old thread, follow these
instructions:

Unless you're replying to a thread *you* started, always start your own
thread with the following information - OS, SP#, architecture, AV, and any
error codes that pop-up.



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"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
 

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